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[SofaJockey]

Pants are most definitely not awesome. They hide the goodies!

 

Apparently Cassandra agrees (cough, cough...)

[cotheer]

yay

[Realmzmaster]

Reasons:

Character Building: Stats Building, Skill building, Feats/Talents Building

 

Like any other good RPG, unlike Inquisition

 

Story well, any trashy Final Fantasy have, in fact the very first Final Fantasy had a better time travelling story than Inquisition, so sad, and I thought it was the mot stupid simplistic story I had ever seen in a game... Bioware proved me wrong.

 

Also yeah, yeah, great LGBT thingy, I'd rather be forced hetero and play a good game (in fact I am forced etero with some character so whatever). I'm with Sera on this one, people, people, not people LGBT. I just wanted a good game, not great, good as in DA2 would be enugh. What use is it with a LGBT game worse than being spanked in the streets for being homossexual? I'd rather they threw me stones.

 

So basically you are talking about a combat simulation not a role playing game. As I stated show me one cRPG that does not have a story to give reason why a group of people are adventuring. 

 

Because without a reason to be adventuring none of the rest of the stuff you mention matters. What you state has to be given context. The story provides that context.

[mikeymoonshine]

I am happy about this, the lgbt content in this game was pretty brilliant for the most part, they deserve recognition for it. 

[Jestina]

Most of it was just blatant pandering to get sales.

[Ending]

Bravo BW.

[Realmzmaster]

Most of it was just blatant pandering to get sales.

 

Point? I always thought that was the point of being in business. If it is pandering to be inclusive and increase sales (and hopefully profit) I hope Bioware keeps right on pandering.

 

Ferengi Rule of Acquisition number 41: Profit is its own reward.

[Phoe77]

We'd have to know why you consider it to be blatant pandering if you want to engage in a reasonable discussion.  I don't see it as any different from including straight romances in the games.  

[Jestina]

We'd have to know why you consider it to be blatant pandering if you want to engage in a reasonable discussion.  I don't see it as any different from including straight romances in the games.  

 
Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

[k1rage]

 
Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

Well the way I see it DA dose not take place in our universe and from what ive seen most people in dragon age are bisexual as most characters will romance either sex, and if you think about it i kind of make sense, the world is in crisis why do they care who sleeps with who lol.

 

I like the fact that the people in Dragon age are open minded and dont care if your gay strait or whatever (though at the same time a bigoted party member could be fun to bicker with lol)

 

Also I really doubt that the had gay romances to increase sales lol, if anything that could cost them sales in a lot of less open minded places

[Phoe77]

 
Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

 

Do you mean that more than 10% or whatever of your companions are gay?  I'm not a stats whiz, but I imagine that broad statistics based on the population at large aren't going to hold up particularly well when applied to a small group of people, and that's not even accounting for the necessity for external considerations.  Fudging the numbers seems acceptable to me in order to ensure that a demographic doesn't get excluded.  It's a suspension of disbelief thing.  

 

If that's not what you meant then I apologize.  

 

I can't really comment on the quality of writing that the characters got since that's largely subjective.  I will say that I don't remember Dorian stating his orientation outright before his quest in Redcliffe, and it's pretty natural that it would come up in that conversation since that was the heart of the problems between him and the character that you were dealing with.  I've never romanced Sera, but I have flirted with her as a male and her rebuffs are pretty non-specific.  

 

As a point of curiosity, do you also think that the straight romances and non-romanceable companions suffered from swill writing?

[Teddie Sage]

Dorian really was a plus for me in Dragon Age Inquisition. Not only as a romance option, but as a virtual friend, a funny and witty mage companion to have around. He made my experience with this game so much better. Thanks Gaider.

[AlanC9]

Point? I always thought that was the point of being in business. If it is pandering to be inclusive and increase sales (and hopefully profit) I hope Bioware keeps right on pandering.
 

I think the argument isn't that Bio's pandering, it's that they're pandering to the wrong people.

[Lebanese Dude]

Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

So not only are you clearly a homophobe, you're also bad at statistics.

[Il Divo]

I think the argument isn't that Bio's pandering, it's that they're pandering to the wrong people.

 

Basically, if Bioware makes a game appealing to me, it's not pandering. But if they make a game appealing to certain other people, then it is pandering. This isn't too far of a stretch considering it's the BSN. 

[Dio Demon]

 
Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

Bull doesn't throw his bisexuality pansexuality in your face, Josie doesn't throw her bisexuality around, Sera definitely doesn't through her gay around.

 

The only one that I see that being gay is part of their story is Dorian but that was more of how his father wanted Dorian to be what he wanted to be.

 

Also please do not choke on the gay agenda on your way out. 

 

Edit: Mistake picked up by Hanako

[brad2240]

Congrats to Bioware. They deserve this. The romances are something I think they did right in DA:I, much improved over DA 2.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Bull doesn't throw his bisexuality in your face, neither does Josie, Sera definitely doesn't through her gay around.

 

The only one that I see that being gay is part of their story is Dorian but that was more of how his father wanted Dorian to be what he wanted to be.

 

Also please do not choke on the gay agenda on your way out. 

Of course The Iron Bull doesn't throw his bisexuality around. He is pansexual.

 

But yeah, other than in the romances it doesn't come up much. The Iron Bull's sexuality only comes up when he mentions other people he slept with, Sera only brings up her not being into guys when a male Inquisitor flirts with her and wondering what Qunari women look like, and Josephine doesn't bring it up at all whatsoever. 

[NedPepper]

And this award I back one hundred percent!  Well done, Bioware! 

[Phonantiphon]

Wow when I started this I dident think it would go negative so rapidly lol

You should have done, it's on BSN!!

 

But well done Bioware, a very well-deserved award. I've always been impressed by their inclusiveness and diversity since way back when so they are worthy winners. 

I too demand a good story in my games. These games are to me all about story and that is something that in my view Bioware have always done extremely well.

[sim-ran]

There will always be people that just love to ****** in your cheerios.

Congrats Bioware! Award is well deserved.

Seeing that thumbs up from the end of T2 still makes me feel a little sad!

[Vilegrim]

well deserved.

[Lebanese Dude]

Of course The Iron Bull doesn't throw his bisexuality around. He is pansexual.

 

But yeah, other than in the romances it doesn't come up much. The Iron Bull's sexuality only comes up when he mentions other people he slept with, Sera only brings up her not being into guys when a male Inquisitor flirts with her and wondering what Qunari women look like, and Josephine doesn't bring it up at all whatsoever. 

 

I don't think homophobia is inherently logical so don't bother explaining it to someone who is rationalizing their own bigotry.

[SofaJockey]

 
Maybe because the percentages don't match up to the population and they did a horrible job on most of those characters. A lot the time their sexual preferences get forced into conversations too, which makes it obvious Bioware/EA pushing to get more sales....cause look, it's gay...now gays will buy this even though it's swill writing.

 

(sigh)

 

Yet again someone insists on bringing their 'hurt' to a simple 'well done' thread.

 

The statistics argument is simply nonsense, that's like saying left handed golfers are only allowed 3 clubs in their bag because there are percentage-wise less of them. If the choice is made to offer the option to role play different orientations as well as races and genders (great) then the play value should be equivalent, particularly as the choices impact no-one else's play.

 

Off-topic:

 

You try to have a pleasant conversation about a pleasing award and some posters insist on bringing their unpleasant agendas.

This thread does have some benefits however, as it seems to be attracting the bigots and the entitled, like flies on crap.

I can finish filling out my 'ignore' list in one sitting  .

[Lebanese Dude]

like flies on crap.

 

 

The unintentional implication that this thread is shitty