Because... he's just wanting to get away? The Anderfels are pretty? What happened to the keep in Amaranthine and Warden's Keep? Someone connected to the wardens would be there.
I'd have Nathaniel Howe (if alive) left behind while the Warden travels to Weisshaupt. I think that would be kind of fitting too, considering it used to be part of his family's fiefdom. If Nathaniel is dead...whoever it was that became the new Castellan.
Because... he's just wanting to get away? The Anderfels are pretty? What happened to the keep in Amaranthine and Warden's Keep? Someone connected to the wardens would be there.
I mean, I understand that they wanted Stroud/Alistair/Loghain to be interchangeable but why on Earth would Hawke be the 4th leg on that table? It really makes no sense whatsoever. He's not a Warden, his connection to the Wardens is minuscule, and once Corypheus is killed by the Inquisitor he has NO connection to the Wardens unless his sibling is a Warden. But even then that has no bearing on his decision. Were they just so determined to put Hawke in the game but also too lazy to do it well that they forced him into the most minor role possible without thinking about why he would be there?
I mean, I understand that they wanted Stroud/Alistair/Loghain to be interchangeable but why on Earth would Hawke be the 4th leg on that table? It really makes no sense whatsoever. He's not a Warden, his connection to the Wardens is minuscule, and once Corypheus is killed by the Inquisitor he has NO connection to the Wardens unless his sibling is a Warden. But even then that has no bearing on his decision. Were they just so determined to put Hawke in the game but also too lazy to do it well that they forced him into the most minor role possible without thinking about why he would be there?
Pretty much this. They had to resolve the whole "Gone. Just like the Warden." business from DA2 -- so Bioware decide to bring Hawke back as a NPC and have her help the Inquisition out a bit. But then, in true Bioware style, they got lazy and came up with a stupid reason to take Hawke out of the story. It's really just laziness on their part. Nothing more.
They'd also show him actually being struck down instead of whatever disjointed break dancing he tried to pull off as the Inquisitor was running for the rift.
Exactly.
I mean, I understand that they wanted Stroud/Alistair/Loghain to be interchangeable but why on Earth would Hawke be the 4th leg on that table? It really makes no sense whatsoever. He's not a Warden, his connection to the Wardens is minuscule, and once Corypheus is killed by the Inquisitor he has NO connection to the Wardens unless his sibling is a Warden. But even then that has no bearing on his decision. Were they just so determined to put Hawke in the game but also too lazy to do it well that they forced him into the most minor role possible without thinking about why he would be there?
Honestly, people did like Hawke), far more than these boards imply. The default design has also become iconic, in it's own right(easy branding) and that's something the warden never really had. At the premier trailer for DAI, mostly everyone knew straight away who Hawke was, but the warden with hawke? Nope..
As for the connection to the wardens, I have to disagree. In all DA2 world states, Hawke freed corypheus, and that was a very big secret that only the warden higher-ups knew about. Hawke would feel partly responsible for all the deaths corypheuse caused, so it's not much of a stretch to see them going to the anderfells demanding awnsers.
Pretty much this. They had to resolve the whole "Gone. Just like the Warden." business from DA2 -- so Bioware decide to bring Hawke back as a NPC and have her help the Inquisition out a bit. But then, in true Bioware style, they got lazy and came up with a stupid reason to take Hawke out of the story. It's really just laziness on their part. Nothing more.
I don't know about programming and the difficulties about implementing stuff into a game.
But then it's hard to imagine, where the work would be if they would have made this:
1) Hawke stays as an emissary
2) Hawke goes back to Kirkwall to help Aveline against Sebastian or whomever
3) One wartable mission with Hawke doing whatever
4) Everyone is happy
You just made that up. Loghain, Alistair, Stroud, and Hawke all disappear.
If this leads to anything... I hope that Loghain becomes the First Warden.
Of course I did 
From Wiki: http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)
Warden ally is alive It is said that Loghain/Stroud/Alistair leads these Wardens in their rebellion, a fight to change the Order from within.
For a batman your invistigatory skills suck
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Of course I did
From Wiki: http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)
Warden ally is alive It is said that Loghain/Stroud/Alistair leads these Wardens in their rebellion, a fight to change the Order from within.
For a batman your invistigatory skills suck
It's wrong. I can edit that wiki with my account right now and type...
Vijolante became a depy derp head and Thedas was saved
is part of DA:I's epilogue.
In fact....
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
Guess you're a derpy derp head....
I couldn't never sacrifice my previous hero.
How many hours did I spend creating this character that refelcts my own decisions and personality?
Strout is a nice bloke, but he is not the hero that is the center in my story.
Same goes for Mass Effect. I could never ditch Shepherd. Never!
And for that part I am NOT ælooking forward to a sequel witout Shepherd. Shepherd was Mass Effect. They might as well have called the series 'Shepherd'.
I think of all the three play-throughs I had, I saved Hawke like... once 
. He/She is so easily forgettable and so incredibly uninteresting to me. I picked Loghain over Hawke, which is something I never thought I'd do considering how much I hated him in DA:O. 
I think Hawke going to Weisshaupt wasn't really well done ...they could just have added Hawke saying "I'll go to the wardens headquarters , they must have some hidden knowledge about Corypheus somewhere".
Turn Hawke into a agent , and a few war table mission where he/she gives you news and then disappear somehow.
I mean even if all the high ranks in the wardens are dead , promote a new one for the journey to Weisshaupt , and that's it.
They just have to go north , it's not really complicated and if those guys aren't even able to go back to their headquarter without a nanny...it's just sad.
I think Hawke going to Weisshaupt wasn't really well done ...they could just have added Hawke saying "I'll go to the wardens headquarters , they must have some hidden knowledge about Corypheus somewhere".
Turn Hawke into a agent , and a few war table mission where he/she gives you news and then disappear somehow.
I mean even if all the high ranks in the wardens are dead , promote a new one for the journey to Weisshaupt , and that's it.
They just have to go north , it's not really complicated and if those guys aren't even able to go back to their headquarter without a nanny...it's just sad.
One wartable mission could be
"Hawke looks for Nathaniel Howe" (whom she saved in DA II)
who would probably be the "highest ranking officer" now.
The HoF is not available, but at a known location. I ask, why Leliana sends no message to her about the events.
Leliana knows, too, that Alistair was respectively is a warden, even as a king. No message for him, too?
Almost anything sounds more plausible than Hawke going to Weisshaupt.
As for the connection to the wardens, I have to disagree. In all DA2 world states, Hawke freed corypheus, and that was a very big secret that only the warden higher-ups knew about. Hawke would feel partly responsible for all the deaths corypheuse caused, so it's not much of a stretch to see them going to the anderfells demanding awnsers.
That's so flimsy. What answers? Corypheus is dead and the Wardens are in no position to judge anyone. Not to mention that if Hawke felt so responsible for unleashing Corypheus why did he just leave before the job was done? And Hawke going to Weisshaupt where all communication ceases and no one knows what's happening is de facto "He disappeared, just like the Warden" so it puts Hawke right back into the same stupid spot he was in at the end of DA2.
Well, in the DLC there was no way for Hawke to consider Cory "not dead".
In fact, for me the entire Corypheus thing is another kind of "deus ex machina".
It's wrong. I can edit that wiki with my account right now and type...
Vijolante became a depy derp head and Thedas was saved
is part of DA:I's epilogue.
In fact....
Guess you're a derpy derp head....
Well you can edit a wiki, but you can't edit a youtube video:
Meh I've always preferred Nightwing anyway.
so...no one else feels like that part of the story wasn't fleshed out completely? idk why but something felt like it was missing to me. I can't say what though.
Just a guess:
Because there is still the threat of new blights, the wardens must find back to old respectively new power.
If Hawke was left back, she will certainly reappear later. We know, that BioWare likes the said "deus ex machina"-thing with all it's variations.
The HoF is somewhere, Alistair is somewhere and Nathaniel Howe is somewhere. Finally, Anders and Oghren were wardens, too.
So we have plenty of protagonists to lead the wardens.
Horror-scenario:
DA:4 Ander's Redemption
He and Oghren rebuild the wardens!
First act:
Renaming to "Order of Ser Pounce-a-Lot"
If it's between Alistair and Hawke, it's a fairly easy decision for me. I will save Alistair.
If it's between Stroud and Hawke, it's also a fairly easy decision for me. I will save Hawke.
But between Loghain and Hawke? That's a bit more rough. Both are men that made certain mistakes (but Loghain's were malicious). LIstening to the Nightmare Demon verbally mashing both of them made me feel their pain. Loghain has doubted himself since he was (partially) proven wrong and became a Grey Warden, while Hawke doubts most of his major decisions during the events of Dragon Age 2. I chose Hawke most of the time, but it's nice to see Loghain live.
In any case, listening to Loghain defend the Grey Wardens made me wonder if he had a change of heart during his time with the Grey Wardens. He never liked them, but seemed to have to adopted their position as the years went on. On separated but related note, Alistair, if he stays with the Wardens, seems to have become more jaded and cynical during his time with the Wardens, even if he never states outright.
Well, in the DLC there was no way for Hawke to consider Cory "not dead".
In fact, for me the entire Corypheus thing is another kind of "deus ex machina".
I'm talking about during Inquisition. Hawke just takes off while the Inquisition is still trying to stop Corypheus. For some reason he puts the Wardens ahead of Corypheus in his list of priorities. It makes no sense at all.
I don't have a home internet connection (I live alone, no PC, not into multiplayer) so couldn't use the Keep.
This meant I had a choice between a warden I had no connection with and a Hawke who was nothing like my Hawke (Female rogue Michelle)
Hawke not being my Hawke caused a dislike of him - so ditched him.
If it had been my Michelle I would have probably sent Stroud
I had hawke/stroud
But i left hawke behind.
Why? because i know i wont play hawke again and hawke is a god damn hero and deserves a heroic end. (my hawke) He doesn't deserve to follow the orders of this inquistor fellow.
Also he is hawke, so he probably survived.
And the moment with varric afterwards was very emotional.
The HoF voice thing is easy to solve however... Bioware could write the HoF got injured, even with healing it wasn't enough to repair their vocal cords. Then have the Warden be a silent badass and sign language user.
Or even simplier, just kill the hero out of scene. or have one scene of him/her but they are fighting then dies.
I really don't see a problem, when the HoF returns and have him / her fully voiced.
Did I miss something crucial?
In this playthrough I am doing now I am going to have to choose between Alistair and Hawke. It's terrible I don't want to leave either behind.
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