I'm not. Nor should you. Yes I called you out, its nothing personal. I just don't know what you are trying to say it came off as contrarian to me.
And btw what is SJW. I've never heard that one before.
It's a description some wear with pride and some see as a pejorative.
Social justice warrior. They fight for what they know is right.
Cremisius Aclassi was a terrible "transman" In fact Bioware wrote her as egotistical, self centered and selfish. Her history proves it.
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Bioware did a poor job representing LBGT people... if that was their goal of adding characters like "Krem" all along.
Contrary to other people it seems, I actually hate Krem. That whole scene with Iron Bull when he introduces you to the Chargers in Skyhold angers me so much. I've replayed that scene a few times and basically if you ask the 'wrong' questions to Krem it feels as though Bioware is breaking the fourth wall and is telling you off (judging by Krem's reactions), and then if you have the follow-up conversation with Iron Bull after that where you can ask about Krem being a woman, you get the whole "Krem isn't a woman" line from him - these conversations pretty much made me feel like Bioware was saying to me something along the lines of "how dare you, you ignorant bigot!". This makes it easily one of my least favourite scenes in gaming history purely because of this.
As for the other LGBT characters though, I thought they were fine. They didn't really feel 'forced' to me and their sexuality was only really mentioned when relevant (such as in Dorian's personal quest, or if you tried to hit on Sera as a man).
We dont needed this in our games in the first place.
Cremisius Aclassi was a terrible "transman" In fact Bioware wrote her as egotistical, self centered and selfish. Her history proves it.
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Bioware did a poor job representing LBGT people... if that was their goal of adding characters like "Krem" all along.
Let me just make sure I have this clear....
Bioware did an excellent job representing LGBT people... because they are no different in capacity for love, hate, tolerance, foolishness, selfishness, compassion, or anything else, than from any other people.
Pro tip: when you call someone expressing their gender identity "playing a game," you have already lost all credibility by making it clear you don't understand it nor respect their right to do so.
Let me just make sure I have this clear....
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In some cultures, yes actually. Individualism vs Collectivism.
It's a description some wear with pride and some see as a pejorative.
Social justice warrior. They fight for what they know is right.
"Social Justice Warrior" is a term for people who believe a lot in something, used by people who don't believe in anything.
Proof is in asking those selfsame people: well, that's over the top, what's a better method of doing what you feel is right, or addressing issues? 99 times out of 50 you will get the same theme: nothing, nothing needs to be done, there's no issue there, lolgay, feminazi, etc. It's a term used by people who don't want to believe there is any injustice, so they have to deride anyone who does.
But some people clearly take things things over the top, and become far too aggressive or inflammatory, even if their motives are good. Even if their points are good! So what's a good term for those folks?
"Annoying twerp." Or "Geebus have decaf."
You only bother creating a label that attacks an entire group, if you are more interested in spreading a political idea about that group, than you are by the individual person.
It's like when someone says "well geez, you can't help everybody."
I have found that when most people say "you can't help everybody," they are really saying "I don't help anybody."
In some cultures, yes actually. Individualism vs Collectivism.
But we're only in the Thedas culture. And let's be honest, we're judging it. Is the Imperium's social structure one we've come to admire, in the game? Do we honor it as praiseworthy? We see its strongest proponent, Dorian, wishing to change it. All information we have on it, in all 3 games, is that it is totalitarian, oppressive, brutal, and generally Ungood.
So while you provided a good theoretical answer, we are not dealing with an abstract concept; we are dealing with a specific and known instance.
Edit: I am going to have to read that FMA-Reaper article in your sig. I just started browsing through it but don't have time to give it full attention now. Good stuff. I should write up my "thesis" on Reaper brutality one day, but ME3 still leaves me with a bitter taste.
Oh, and I looked at your profile.
MISSED IT BY ONE @_@
I can never go back.
But we're only in the Thedas culture. And let's be honest, we're judging it. Is the Imperium's social structure one we've come to admire, in the game? Do we honor it as praiseworthy? We see its strongest proponent, Dorian, wishing to change it. All information we have on it, in all 3 games, is that it is totalitarian, oppressive, brutal, and generally Ungood.
So while you provided a good theoretical answer, we are not dealing with an abstract concept; we are dealing with a specific and known instance.
I know, but players are from real cultures. So depending on their culture, it can be seen as either Krem made the right choice or that Krem was being selfish. That's all I'm saying. Personally I think Krem did the right thing, but I am sad his father paid the price for his decision.
Edit: I am going to have to read that FMA-Reaper article in your sig. I just started browsing through it but don't have time to give it full attention now. Good stuff. I should write up my "thesis" on Reaper brutality one day, but ME3 still leaves me with a bitter taste.
Oh, and I looked at your profile.
MISSED IT BY ONE @_@
I can never go back.
Thank you. I'm always glad to hear that somebody likes it. 
lol
"Social Justice Warrior" is a term for people who believe a lot in something, used by people who don't believe in anything.
As I wrote, some consider it a pejorative. I use it, but I am a strong believer. But SJW don't just believe in "something", but a very specific thing.
Of course the two are not mutually exclusive. One can pander with a token character.
The point is, neither the game nor the story would change a bit, were this character not there. If Josie was transgender, that would have been impressive. This one, not so much.
The game would change a great deal. Krem is the face of the chargers - he's there to get attached to as an NPC so the choice to abandon the chargers to die isn't completely contrived but rather has emotional heft.
I love Krem just from my few interactions between the storm coast and the first Skyhold visit. Exile's point should be emphasized - if you just have Iron Bull, the Chargers are faceless NPCs that mean as much as your "power" stat. There to be spent. Krem makes them present to you in the game and gives the choice a meaning. Not "zomg the game has a new ending" meaning, but the more important meaning of your personal game experience.
The game would change a great deal. Krem is the face of the chargers - he's there to get attached to as an NPC so the choice to abandon the chargers to die isn't completely contrived but rather has emotional heft.
I guess it didn't affect me emotionally. I've become more attached to this character by discussing him on this forum than ever in the game. There's irony in there somewhere.
I guess it didn't affect me emotionally. I've become more attached to this character by discussing him on this forum than ever in the game. There's irony in there somewhere.
I know, but players are from real cultures. So depending on their culture, it can be seen as either Krem made the right choice or that Krem was being selfish. That's all I'm saying. Personally I think Krem did the right thing, but I am sad his father paid the price for his decision.
That's a good point, of course, but I think it has a twist. "Noble birth must marry for family vs. abandon obligation for personal wants" is not an uncommon theme. In this case, it makes me question: is it "worse," on some scale, to force someone to marry against gender preference, versus forcing someone to marry against their will in general? I don't know the answer in these few minutes, but I think it's interesting that it raises the question.
Let me just make sure I have this clear....
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Bioware did an excellent job representing LGBT people... because they are no different in capacity for love, hate, tolerance, foolishness, selfishness, compassion, or anything else, than from any other people.
Pro tip: when you call someone expressing their gender identity "playing a game," you have already lost all credibility by making it clear you don't understand it nor respect their right to do so.
What the..... hell? What kind of an example are you trying use here?
While Bioware did do good on representing Dorian, Sera, Karl, and Anders they did extremely poor on representing a transman because of the poor writing of her character.
http://blog.bioware....s-krem-aclassi/
On the writing side, I wrote Krem as best I could, and the editing team looked at every line and cleaned up dialogue and paraphrases that could give the wrong impression. I then passed him to two friends in the GQ community… at which point they showed me where I was absolutely messing things up and gave me constructive feedback on how to improve. In the first draft, Bull was the one who brought up Krem’s binding as a friendly joke. My friends pointed out how incredibly hurtful such a callout was for many trans people in real life (“Hey, by the way, you’re actually a woman, just wanted to remind you!”) and that it made Bull into an incredibly offensive jerk. This was not at all what I wanted—people playing now will note that Bull and Krem give each other grief about little things all the time, but never attack truly sore spots—and I rewrote the scene so that Krem is the one who brings it up first. This makes it clear that Krem is comfortable discussing being trans, and the player will not be offending Krem by asking questions about it.
Bioware was so terrified of offending the LGBT community over some friendly trans joke that they fail to realize the realization of the fact that not everyone is pro LGBT, and that they shouldn't be forcing everyone just to accept it. Why couldn't I create my inquisitor into a homophobic, transphobic, anti LGBT charecter? Shouldn't that be my right? Why couldn't I have the freedom to have my inquisitor walk up to Cremisius Aclassi and engage in dialogue by criticizing her about her gender identity issue, and explain how selfish she was to run away from her family? Perhaps igniting a full fledged fight with Bull and the rest of his chargers which then results them to permanently leave Skyhold?
Patrick Weekes should of kept his first draft.
Bioware games aren't a platform for whatever particular form of bigotry you want to express. It's the same reason you can't start a white supremacist group to cleanse Rivain. You get to have the sort of prejudices that exist insetting.What the..... hell? What kind of an example are you trying use here?
While Bioware did do good on representing Dorian, Sera, Karl, and Anders they did extremely poor on representing a transman because of the poor writing of her character.
http://blog.bioware....s-krem-aclassi/
Bioware was so terrified of offending the LGBT community over some friendly trans joke that they fail to realize the realization of the fact that not everyone is pro LGBT, and that they shouldn't be forcing everyone just to accept it. Why couldn't I create my inquisitor into a homophobic, transphobic, anti LGBT charecter? Shouldn't that be my right? Why couldn't I have the freedom to have my inquisitor walk up to Cremisius Aclassi and engage in dialogue by criticizing her about her gender identity issue, and explain how selfish she was to run away from her family? Perhaps igniting a full fledged fight with Bull and the rest of his chargers which then results them to permanently leave Skyhold?
Patrick Weekes should of kept his first draft.
Why couldn't I create my inquisitor into a homophobic, transphobic, anti LGBT charecter? Shouldn't that be my right? Why couldn't I have the freedom to have my inquisitor walk up to Cremisius Aclassi and engage in dialogue by criticizing her about her gender identity issue, and explain how selfish she was to run away from her family? Perhaps igniting a full fledged fight with Bull and the rest of his chargers which then results them to permanently leave Skyhold?
No, no, no. That would be roleplaying. We don't do that here in these parts.
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But seriously, I would have been very surprised had that been an option, if only because it would have been the only instance where roleplaying a character outside the safe vanilla-zone would have been allowed in DA:I.
This is an RPG, where you do not play roles. You follow a scripted epic story.
This isn't Fallout 2.
No, no, no. That would be roleplaying. We don't do that here in these parts.
/s
But seriously, I would have been very surprised had that been an option, if only because it would have been the only instance in the game where roleplaying a character outside the safe vanilla-zone would have been allowed in DA:I.
This is an RPG, where you do not play roles. You follow a script.
This isn't Fallout 2.
Well shucks... I thought I was playing a roleplaying game.
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Seriously thought. I thought part of this game was in fact that bioware made a big deal over the choices and consequences.... where is it?
The game would change a great deal. Krem is the face of the chargers - he's there to get attached to as an NPC so the choice to abandon the chargers to die isn't completely contrived but rather has emotional heft.
Not really, it was so easy to me to let that "guy" die and then lead Iron bull to the right path.
Not really, it was so easy to me to let that "guy" die and then lead Iron bull to the right path.
Well shucks... I thought I was playing a roleplaying game.
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Seriously thought. I thought part of this game was in fact that bioware made a big deal over the choices and consequences.... where is it?
It's with the PC UI.
so terrified of offending the LGBT community
some friendly trans joke
not everyone is pro LGBT
forcing everyone just to accept it
I'm sorry, I did not realize that you are either a troll or a bigot. I sincerely apologize, and I won't make the mistake of lending anything you say the credence of applying logic to it again.
It's highlighted above for the pure facepalm value, but there's no point in addressing any of the nonsense you spew. You may have been raised wrong, but perpetuating idiocy as an adult is an active choice you're making.
I'm sorry, I did not realize that you are either a troll or a bigot. I sincerely apologize, and I won't make the mistake of lending anything you say the credence of applying logic to it again.
It's highlighted above for the pure facepalm value, but there's no point in addressing any of the nonsense you spew. You may have been raised wrong, but perpetuating idiocy as an adult is an active choice you're making.
Why all the angst?
Why all the angst?
2/10 look up more words.
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