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[ErtosiAngel]

Just read this:

 

http://answers.ea.co...266547#U4266547

 

Not receiving the Victory Chests yet is intentional. They already announced that reward might not be released till Monday when the event is over.

[SofaJockey]

If the community results on PC was hacked, I'd suggest a rollback of sorts, so the rest of us who legitimately want to enjoy the weekend challenge can do so in peace. I don't see why all PC users should be punished for the actions of one person.

 

I think that's reasonable.

 

Whether it was a hack or a bug, 99.99% of PC players were not responsible.

The question becomes, what is the answer, and what is possible.

 

I guess we'll know more on Monday.

[Deadarth]

I'm not quite sure why a Xbox player should make a post about canceling PC stuff, yeah it's sad it was hacked or bugged but we would have finished it anyway...

[sabreracer]

Opened chests will continue to log over the weekend so we'll be well over regardless.  If there was some hacking their game to report an obscene number of chests opened then Bioware will be able to tell and if it's anything like ME3 bans will follow.

[SofaJockey]

I'm not quite sure why a Xbox player should make a post about canceling PC stuff, yeah it's sad it was hacked or bugged but we would have finished it anyway...

 

I'll explain:

 

Community challenges should be enjoyable for people on all platforms.

It's less fun if one platform, whether by hack or bug, suddenly reaches the end goal unfairly.

 

Is it a big deal? In the scheme of things, no.

 

But If it was hacked that undermines the point of the community challenge.

To say that PC would have finished anyway is irrelevant.

My own platform of choice is also not relevant to this thread. 

 

I hope this is easily sorted out on Monday.

[Deadarth]

I'll explain:

 

Community challenges should be enjoyable for people on all platforms.

It's less fun if one platform, whether by hack or bug, suddenly reaches the end goal unfairly.

 

Is it a big deal? In the scheme of things, no.

 

But If it was hacked that undermines the point of the community challenge.

To say that PC would have finished anyway is irrelevant.

My own platform of choice is also not relevant to this thread. 

 

I hope this is easily sorted out on Monday.

 

And here is my point, why should every single player on pc be penalized because some dude decided to hack, which again nobody knows for sure, it could just be another bug for all we know, also, your platform is relevant because if they cancel them on pc it does not affect you in any way whatsoever.

[Jane_Shepard]

I am not sure what you mean here. The event in-game stated that completing the personal challenge is rewarded with a commendation chest, and the community challenge is rewarded with a victory chest.

 

Hi

 

What i mean is simple.

Like i said, if you go on the Inquisition HQ website, you will see as a reward for the 25 hidden chest and for the 250k chest, commandation chest and not victory one

 

But yes after check in game, there is an victory chest for the community one

 

 

So if it's in game that is correct and website that is wrong, it's pretty sure for the 200k in 5 mn was due to a problem in the update on the website

[Aetika]

I'd still give them the chest, but I'd punish them by releasing another patch for PC.

 

Now now, that would be unnecessary. The chest itself is punishment enough.

[SofaJockey]

And here is my point, why should every single player on pc be penalized because some dude decided to hack, which again nobody knows for sure, it could just be another bug for all we know, also, your platform is relevant because if they cancel them on pc it does not affect you in any way whatsoever.

 

Thanks for that, I won't push the point after this post because it's not worth an argument, but I disagree because:

• It's a team game - if someone on your team cheats (to be proved either way), your team loses.
  If it was a bug that should be fixed.
  If it was a cheat, I hope the clock can be reset.
  If it was a cheat that can't be prevented in future, then what point is there for PC platform to participate in the community element?
• My platform is irrelevant because it is the principle that is being discussed.
  If some football team gets canned for cheating, am I affected? No.
  Am I entitled to have an opinion on the matter? Yes.
  I also find the principle, 'cheating is ok if it doesn't affect you' highly suspect, though I'm not saying you said that.

[N7 Tigger]

The only thing that bothers me is that the PC players who wanted to attempt the challenge legit won't be able to. Doesn't seem fair to punish them on top of that.

[sabreracer]

 

Thanks for that, I won't push the point after this post because it's not worth an argument, but I disagree because:

• It's a team game - if someone on your team cheats (to be proved either way), your team loses.
  If it was a cheat, I hope the clock can be reset.
  If it was a cheat that can't be prevented in future, then what point is there for PC platform to participate in the community element?

 

It's a community event not a competition between platforms where one "wins" and gets an exclusive reward.  So you feel it would be fair to punish the say 200,000 people who played fairly for the actions of possibly one individual?  Remember we are not a team just individuals playing a game.  We have no control over the actions of others.

 

afaik the results are checked when they come in on Monday so no chance of a reset.  They can deduct the dubious figure and check the results again is all. 

 

There are ways to stop this kind of thing but EA/Bioware are too tight fisted to use them.

[Deadarth]

That is if someone cheated or hacked it in some way.

Again, people, don't presume without all (or in this case any) evidence.

Can't be said any better, considering how many bugs there are in the multiplayer, it's not unlikely it was just another one... Haha.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

And here is my point, why should every single player on pc be penalized because some dude decided to hack, which again nobody knows for sure, it could just be another bug for all we know, also, your platform is relevant because if they cancel them on pc it does not affect you in any way whatsoever.

 

I don't think you're understanding what you're reading.

[Deadarth]

I don't think you're understanding what you're reading.

The thread title was changed, at first it was about just getting rid of weekly community challenge for PC, that's quite easy to understand.

[SpaceV3gan]

If it is truly a hacker, I salute this player. He did it for all of us, so that now we can go back to speedrunnig the game ignoring all chests.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The thread title was changed, at first it was about just getting rid of weekly community challenge for PC, that's quite easy to understand.

 

The thread title has been the same since I checked it this morning a bit after 8 a.m. 

 

If it was different before, it has been the same for over an hour.

[kalenath]

I PERSONALLY saw the community status stay at 23473 chests for four missions last night. I opened nine chests in that time (we didn't finish all of them. PUGs. What else need I say?)

 

I am leaning towards a lag in updating myself. If it WAS a hack, I hope they catch and punish the one(s) who did it and not all players.

 

I am still going to play.

[Deadarth]

The thread title has been the same since I checked it this morning a bit after 8 a.m. 

 

If it was different before, it has been the same for over an hour.

Well, the thread is from last night, could have been changed anytime really, but at first it was about punishing PC players for whatever happened and canceling future community events for PC, read most of the first and second page and it might seem more in context, also, I wish they had an edit history.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well, the thread is from last night, could have been changed anytime really, but at first it was about punishing PC players for whatever happened and canceling future community events for PC, read most of the first and second page and it might seem more in context, also, I wish they had an edit history.

 

Sofa Jockey's post is quoted in yours. He explained why individual's opinions on the issue are relevant regardless of platform, and that is intent was not to punish anyone, all of which I gathered the first time I read all of it. I've seen the first two pages.

 

I think you are interpreting this as an attack on PC players, and I really don't believe any kind of attack is happening. People are just discussing how to proceed, and it seems like the rollback, if possible, is the sensible solution.

[Deadarth]

Sofa Jockey's post is quoted in yours. He explained why individual's opinions on the issue are relevant regardless of platform, and that is intent was not to punish anyone, all of which I gathered the first time I read all of it. I've seen the first two pages.

 

I think you are interpreting this as an attack on PC players, and I really don't believe any kind of attack is happening. People are just discussing how to proceed, and it seems like the rollback, if possible, is the sensible solution.

Seriously dude, I'm telling you the thread title was changed and did you even read the OP ???? Things were edited later but I'll help you, hopefully you can read it.

 

I'm not blaming PC players (99.99% not involved in this) but can we conclude that it is pointless to include the PC platform in the community challenge portion of the weekend events?

I see no reason why the victory chest should be offered either.

This is not the world's most important issue and I'm not encouraging a platform war on this thread, but why set a challenge for the PC platform if that challenge is pointless?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Seriously dude, I'm telling you the thread title was changed and did you even read the OP ???? Things were edited later but I'll help you, hopefully you can read it.

 

I don't think you're understanding what you're reading.

[Deadarth]

There is a massive difference between understanding and having a different point of view or opinion.

[SofaJockey]

Seriously dude, I'm telling you the thread title was changed and did you even read the OP ???? Things were edited later but I'll help you, hopefully you can read it.

 

Sofa Jockey's post is quoted in yours. He explained why individual's opinions on the issue are relevant regardless of platform, and that is intent was not to punish anyone, all of which I gathered the first time I read all of it. I've seen the first two pages.

 

I think you are interpreting this as an attack on PC players, and I really don't believe any kind of attack is happening. People are just discussing how to proceed, and it seems like the rollback, if possible, is the sensible solution.

 

 

In fairness I did change the title a couple of hours ago, because given the discussion about bugs, I didn't think that possibility was sufficiently addressed in the title and given how the discussion had developed, the original title had become unnecessarily dramatic.

 

The OP is unchanged I think, I sometimes fix typos/grammer without a 'edit' marker if I see it later.
If I add significant stuff, I'll normally add an EDIT: comment.

 

I still think a hack is the most likely explanation and from the off my title was a question inviting discussion.

 

And despite seeking to avoid a platform war, it's quite hard isn't it 

The only target for my mild frustration is the hacker/bug, not PC players generally.

 

There is a wider question about whether the system structure PC's have, makes competitive events vulnerable,

whether or not that has happened in this case.

[Scraps_in_Wales]

Bizarre. When Sony/Microsoft where hacked, did they go out of their way to further punish the consumer because 'someone did it'. No, because it's no-one elses fault. Some of us on PC worked hard on that quest yesterday- and enjoyed seeing the race develop. Personally I'm off out as I'm more a weekday player myself, I've done my bit towards the total even if someone has borked it now.