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[Bob Walker]

Varric is not the only fan favorite character brought back in DAI (what about Leliana, Morrigan, Cullen). But I agree he nas not much to say or do in the game, besides presenting us that horrible Bianca (the character).

[Ashagar]

I guess its one of this mileage may vary, Varric was one of my favorite companions along with Cassandra and Solas, useful and  having some of the best banter in the game regardless of who you put him with. I concider him a must have character to have with you if you do the paragon tomb quest in the hissing wastes for the special banter he has especially if you have a dwarven inquisitor who gets their own banter about the ruins as they play off each other quite well.

[cronshaw]

He's an important character in the narrative of the last two games
Just as Lilliana and Morrigan are to the series as a whole
You feel like the devs are forcing Varric on you because you don't like him,
But the truth is they aren't forcing him on the player any more than they are other important characters

[Basher of Glory]

You feel like the devs are forcing Varric on you because you don't like him,
But the truth is they aren't forcing him on the player any more than they are other important characters

 

I wouldn't go as far as to say "I don't like him".

 

I didn't like Oghren and didn't care about Zevran.

 

As I stated, Varric does neither annoy nor bother me. Perhaps I'm simply unfair about him.

[cronshaw]

I wouldn't go as far as to say "I don't like him".

 

I didn't like Oghren and didn't care about Zevran.

 

As I stated, Varric does neither annoy nor bother me. Perhaps I'm simply unfair about him.

 

From your OP

In DA II it was a bit harder for me, but on a scale from 0 (= hate) to 10 (= love) Varric would have had about 2 or 3 while Isabella and Aveline reached 7 or 8.

 

 

If 0 is hate then 2-3 certainly isn't "like"

5 would be ambivalent or not having strong feelings one way or another

so perhaps you need to clarify exactly how you feel about him

Since most of these "Character X is being forced down my throat" threads are really about players not liking character X

[Precursor Meta]

I wonder who's going to be the next reoccurring character after Varric? I bet it'll be Cassandra. I wouldn't mind varric being replaced by the abdominal Scout Harding...

[Hair Serious Business]

Honestly if it were up to me,no matter how much I love/ed some character in pervious games I would never bring any of them back as my companions again(or anything to do with Inquisiton in general) ._. I would just give all new guys end of story!

Reasons: I loved both Leliana and Morrigan but when I saw them back in DA:I especially Leliana again being forced onto me in game without me having any choice how to deal with her...first thing I did was opened developer console and tried typing "/kill Leliana and Morrigan"(didn't worked by the way Q_Q).

It's not that me or anyone else hates Leliana,Morrigan,Varric or any of them...problem is that because after having developers forcing such characters on you while giving you nice sign on billboard saying "These are our favorite characters that we decided to give most important roles simply because we like them most and by the way even if entire world sinks we will make these characters alive!"...now that is true problem in here ._.! It simply makes characters as them too much "overrated" and you are simply start getting sick of them...it is like irl when you have friend that you love but he soon becomes way too annoying by always being in same place as you as your shadow and no matter how much you like your friend you would like even more if he gave you damn space! 

Same is with Leliana,Morrigan,Varric....I love all of them but GOD I really am starting to get way too sick of them! Just give me all new characters so I can take a breath from old ones already!

[Nefla]

I liked Varric in DA2 and I know he's a fan favorite, but I feel like the writers coasted on the fact that we all knew him from DA2 and hardly gave him any character development or depth in DA:I.

[Dr. rotinaj]

The same  can be said about Leliana though. She's been in all 3 games and has a major role in Inquisition even though she could die in DAO.

[Johanna]

Honestly, I can't get enough of Varric. I hope he is with us in some form for the rest of the series.

[Basher of Glory]

From your OP

 

If 0 is hate then 2-3 certainly isn't "like"

5 would be ambivalent or not having strong feelings one way or another

so perhaps you need to clarify exactly how you feel about him

Since most of these "Character X is being forced down my throat" threads are really about players not liking character X

You are right.

 

Clarification:

 

2-3 means for me "I don't care at all", which is - in my eyes - worse than "hate", as "hate" is still a feeling.

 

A "5" I would give to Sten of DA:O. Neither hated nor loved him, just had him around for his own questline and wondering, what he will be in future games.

The same for Wynne, btw.

 

But that is all very subjective and not meant as serious criterion.

[Vox Draco]

I feel like Cullen was shoveled  down our throats by the devs, to be honest.

First of all, I don't understand how this character became so popular. It felt like overnight everyone started talking about him and I'm like "who is this??", then I had to search it up and found out he was the templar in DA:O who was trapped inside that barrier thing. And it was like "ohhh that one dude". His 5 min tops dialogue with you that one time. He's not even that memorable in DA2 either.

Suddenly everyone is talking about him as if he was some major character.

 

I for once like him because he is mostly a "normal" guy, a "normal" romance for the fem-Quizzy. Not a dubious elf, not a horned weirdo, not a woman, not a bearded lying old diack...A char like Cullen and Alistair was sorely missing in DA2, one of the few bioware-Games since Baldurs Gate 2 I never cared for any of the romances

 

As for Varric? I think I like him. A dwarf that is not all about axes, drinking, battle, mining, gold, gold, gold, beer? what's not to like?

[Belz007]

I loved Varric in DA2. Playing as saracastic Hawke he was the like the brother from another mother. In DAI he is still funny but felt much more cynical and burdend due to what happened in Kirkwall. To me that made him more believable as a character who has seen the worse of what the world has to offer. Betrayed by his own brother. His home city burned down three times. His best and trusted friend had to go in hiding. His only love married to someone else.
I cant get enough of Varric. I hope to see more of him in the future. He who came up with Varric should get a raise.

[KaiserShep]

I liked Varric in DA2 and I know he's a fan favorite, but I feel like the writers coasted on the fact that we all knew him from DA2 and hardly gave him any character development or depth in DA:I.

I dunno. When Varric talks to the Inquisitor after "Well, sh*t", he admits to things that not even Hawke hears, or at least nothing that we're allowed to hear, and it pretty much pierces through his general aloofness. In DA2, he seems like a character that doesn't have that much of a care in the world, even after Bartrand's death, but we never get a sense of what's really eating him until now.

[SurelyForth]

There's a thing called confirmation bias in which humans tend to look for things that support their own views and, thus, will see it everywhere and to the exclusion of opposing "proof". So if you are annoyed with Varric and think the devs are forcing him down your throat, everything that pertains to him will leap out at you and leave an impression. However, you will rarely focus on all the moments he's not there but could be (a forced companion in Hawke-related quests, for example), and you will be less likely to notice when other characters are given the same treatment as he is (like the amulets). 

 

So, basically, your experience is valid in that you perceive Varric to be a larger presence in the game than you would like, but it's not necessarily reflective of what's actually in the game (and when it is, like Bianca's upgrades, it kind of ignores the completely logical reason for it to exist).  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If they wanted me to love Varric, they failed miserably. I do not like him and if we could get rid of him I would. 

[rapscallioness]

I guess its one of this mileage may vary, Varric was one of my favorite companions along with Cassandra and Solas, useful and  having some of the best banter in the game regardless of who you put him with. I concider him a must have character to have with you if you do the paragon tomb quest in the hissing wastes for the special banter he has especially if you have a dwarven inquisitor who gets their own banter about the ruins as they play off each other quite well.

 

 

See, maybe that's it. I didn't get any of that banter. I'm starting a new PT now hoping this elusive banter bug is fixed.

 

But I confess, this is kinda breaking my heart.

[Dean_the_Young]

My view of Varric has been a bit dim since I came to terms with DA2 as the 'Corruption is Cool' Bioware game.

 

 

At best, Varric is a witty and easy-going guy with a passing regard for the idea of laws or justice who none the less takes care of his often-troubled friends.

 

At worst, Varric is an exceptionally privileged and irresponsible aristocrat who got involved in a life of crime and criminals for the excitement, and whose idea of a good time with friends is going around shooting people much poorer than himself with high-powered weaponry.

 

 

I recognize that my views are in a distinct minority.

[In Exile]

I dunno. When Varric talks to the Inquisitor after "Well, sh*t", he admits to things that not even Hawke hears, or at least nothing that we're allowed to hear, and it pretty much pierces through his general aloofness. In DA2, he seems like a character that doesn't have that much of a care in the world, even after Bartrand's death, but we never get a sense of what's really eating him until now.

 

He tells you new stuff in the sense that they're not going to repeat the same revelations you might already have seen as Hawke in DA2, but he doesn't really share anything more deep than some background stuff on Bianca and he's not really your friend.

 

And that's what I think kills Varric in DA:I - his character only works when he's a devil-may care, irreverent best-friend/side-kick to the protagonist. That's what made Varric fun. In DA:I he's substantially more depressed, a lot more guarded, a lot less irreverent and sarcastic... it's a very different person. 

[Mocksie]

Varric's only usable weapon is his crossbow, so he needs those upgrades to stay on par with everyone else. Yes, there is a lot of Varric, but you are not forced to use him, or even talk to him if you don't like him. His presence in DA:I was planned from the beginning I'm sure, since he was with Cassandra, telling Hawke's story in DA2.

 

In DA:2 he played a rather large role, but in DA:I, I tend to consider him more of a bridge to include Hawke than anything.

 

If any DA character is forced on us, it's Leliana. I like Leliana, but she is literally the Liara of Dragon Age. She got her own DLC (why her backstory over other companions?), and is in every game even if she was killed in DA:O.

 

[JackPoint]

Varric's only usable weapon is his crossbow, so he needs those upgrades to stay on par with everyone else. Yes, there is a lot of Varric, but you are not forced to use him, or even talk to him if you don't like him. His presence in DA:I was planned from the beginning I'm sure, since he was with Cassandra, telling Hawke's story in DA2.

 

In DA:2 he played a rather large role, but in DA:I, I tend to consider him more of a bridge to include Hawke than anything.

 

If any DA character is forced on us, it's Leliana. I like Leliana, but she is literally the Liara of Dragon Age. She got her own DLC (why her backstory over other companions?), and is in every game even if she was killed in DA:O.

A common misconception, Varric can use dual daggers and he is far better at melee than failing with bianca.

[In Exile]

A common misconception, Varric can use dual daggers and he is far better at melee than failing with bianca.

 

Whether one likes a melee rogue is a pretty big YMMV. It depends a lot on playstyle. For me, DA:I is similar to DA:O in that I find non-PC melee rogues completely worthless. 

[Basher of Glory]

Whether one likes a melee rogue is a pretty big YMMV. It depends a lot on playstyle. For me, DA:I is similar to DA:O in that I find non-PC melee rogues completely worthless. 

Now that.... is really a point of view

[Augustei]

I know this may be construed as Heresy by some, But I actually don't particularly like Varric that much, Heck I find him kind of annoying.
And I certainly don't find him funny
He's not the worst companion ever though