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[Hans Olo]

Please, pretty please, while everyone that has ever lived believes it is totally plausible for Ashley to get a boob job and facelift and lip injections and for Kaidan to bulk up tremendously and get a face lift in the months between ME2 and ME3 and for James Vega to look more like The Mountain than a regular soldier (or even a commando) and for EDI the robot to look totally sexy because basically her entire story line is about her relating to humans/people and it just makes sense and for almost naked Jack to now be almost naked rockhard nipple TEACHER Jack which we all believe is how they would do it (in porn movies), could the people we knew from before at least look like they belong there?

 

Like they were not pulled away from some victoria's secret show or milan fashion week or the world's strongest man competition or futurama's miss earth moon competition (ultimately won by the crushinator).

 

I realize that EA wants to make money by appealing to teenage hormones, who hasn't in their day taken a nice hot shower with a sexy character from a game in the back of their head.. but these are barely recogniseable and/or sexy for the sake of sexy. Why? Does Samara's cleavage enhance her biotic abilities? Those weird leather/metal nipple things Jack wore and that nobody thought to comment on, are they important to her back story? 

 

Help me understand, please. Because as it stands now a big part of ME3's fun is gone not because of the "meh" ish ending which I actually rather liked but because Ashley would look better as a staggeringly promiscuous "real house wife of new jersey" with some clueless millionaire who bulked up tremendously and got a face lift in the last couple of months as a husband.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

So we knew Vega before ME3?

[Mcfly616]

The overly sexualized character models started with ME2.

[Iakus]

The overly sexualized character models started with ME2.

 

Truth.

 

Though ME3 certainly continued to run with it.

[Mcfly616]

Truth.

 

Though ME3 certainly continued to run with it.

 Well, as I've said countless times, ME3 was a true sequel to ME2. ME2 wasn't exactly a true sequel to ME1 in anything other than name. 

[GalacticWolf5]

I think everyone looks fine in ME3. They actually look better and their appearance fits them better. Except for Ashley, on that I agree about the sexualisation. I mean what kind of soldier wears this kind of outfit.... Her alternate appearance, which is the same we see in the Take Earth Back trailer, should have been her default. And let's not even talk about her boobs.

Kaidan's a soldier. Makes sense for him to have some muscles. He worked out and that's it.

Jack well... it's Jack. What did you expect? And she's actually less naked than in ME2.

What's wrong with James? He's fine. He's just a bulked soldier.

[Mcfly616]

I never had a problem with Ash's look in ME3. Particularly her face. She just looks like she grew into a woman, let her hair down and threw on some eye makeup.

 

My complaints have usually always stemmed from the sexualized attire. Miranda and Jacob wear spandex leotards for cryin out loud. I can understand the complaints about Ashley's default catsuit attire. Though I never understood why so many dwell on it when they can simply switch it to a second option where she's fully armored.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

I think everyone looks fine in ME3. They actually look better and their appearance fits them better. Except for Ashley, on that I agree about the sexualisation. I mean what kind of soldier wears this kind of outfit.... Her alternate appearance, which is the same we see in the Take Earth Back trailer, should have been her default. And let's not even talk about her boobs.

Kaidan's a soldier. Makes sense for him to have some muscles. He worked out and that's it.

Jack well... it's Jack. What did you expect? And she's actually less naked than in ME2.

What's wrong with James? He's fine. He's just a bulked soldier.

This exactly.

[Han Shot First]

There's nothing wrong with characters that also happen to be attractive.

 

Just give them fully functional and practical armor complete with optional helmets, and don't increase the breast size of female characters between games. 

[Sith Reaper]

The overly sexualized character models started with ME2.

Can't disagree. But I really do think Bioware is going this way now, just take a look at DA I.

Started a little earlier than ME2.

[Mcfly616]

Started a little earlier than ME2.

Benezia was one character. Now every female that's integral to the narrative is either big breasted or wearing a spandex onesie or both.

[Lee T]

ME1 female model armor were already more about highlighting the figure rather than protection. On the cover, Ashley was a classic Sci-Fi pin-up.

[SimonTheFrog]

There is a difference between elegant and slutty

[Hans Olo]

So we knew Vega before ME3?

 

Unfortunately yeah.. but I would not recommend you watch "paragon lost" because awful does not begin to cover it.

 

You are right though, the tight outfit wearing Miranda, several Asari from ME1.

 

There is a difference between elegant and slutty 

 

Yes, there is. It is not hard to see in which camp this belongs however.

 

There's nothing wrong with characters that also happen to be attractive.

 

Just give them fully functional and practical armor complete with optional helmets, and don't increase the breast size of female characters between games. 

 

You are right, and I never said they were not allowed to be attractive.

 

As I am sure plenty of women will attest to, tight leather outfits are neither functional nor practical. Tight outfits of material that is rough and tough enough (I'm a poet!) to protect and make you quick and nimble do not exist. Kevlar is not practical to wear all over, leather is not practical. Add to that the fact that the guys look like regular soldiers (except Vega who looks like a freak of nature).

 

They are however.. very very sexy

 

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Why Kaidan even got a make-over is completely beyond me. He looked like a soldier, a regular -biotic i.e. not known for their muscle- soldier. He looked like what one would expect with the information we receive in the games a sentinel to look like.

 

Ashley's transformation just boggles my mind! 

 

- boobjob

- lipjob

- facelift

 

At a time of galactic tension, war and strife, am I supposed to believe that this die-hard soldier coming from a family of die-hard soldiers finds her looks more important than her honor, than the future of humanity? Than galactic peace? 

 

And yet AFTER she undergoes this transformation from female soldier to pin-up soldier, she rediscovers her honor and soldier's duty and clashes with Shephard like the old Ash would have done? Because Shephard worked with Cerberus? Why does he not mention her finding time to get a complete make-over? They are bickering anyway, why not clear all the issues? 

 

NOBODY mentions this? Remember Shephard has not seen Ash since Horizon. Imagine his surprise as this spectacular woman with the lips and the boobs... oooh the boobs..

 

What were we talking about again? 

Modifié par Hans Olo, 27 janvier 2015 - 12:41 .

[Hans Olo]

The overly sexualized character models started with ME2.

 

 

Truth.

 

Though ME3 certainly continued to run with it.

 

And in between ME1 and ME2, Bioware was bought up by EA as I mentioned in my original post. EA tends to do this wherever it goes.

[Han Shot First]

 

You are right though, the tight outfit wearing Miranda, several Asari from ME1.

 

Which Asari?

[Mister J]

'If you think that outfit is too skimpy let me warn you about a very scary place... the beach!'

 

-- Bill Maher

 

Not everyone is so terrified of sexuality as you Hans Olo. Deal with it or stop playing games that show a cleavage or two...

[SimonTheFrog]

'If you think that outfit is too skimpy let me warn you about a very scary place... the beach!'

 

-- Bill Maher

 

Not everyone is so terrified of sexuality as you Hans Olo. Deal with it or stop playing games that show a cleavage or two...

 

What I found annoying in ME2 was that they decided to give style a higher priority than realism. I would have preferred realism (or suspension of disbelief if realism is too big of a mouthful).

[Hans Olo]

Which Asari?

 

The consort, matriarch Benezia.

 

*edit*   Those are Benezia's boobs you see if you scroll up. The consort caused a mild stir just before the original ME was released because of a "sex-scene", it was not really that sexy to be honest.

 

'If you think that outfit is too skimpy let me warn you about a very scary place... the beach!'

 

-- Bill Maher

 

Not everyone is so terrified of sexuality as you Hans Olo. Deal with it or stop playing games that show a cleavage or two...

 

It looks like you are conflating 2 different things.

 

Namely "chilling at the beach" and "fighting a war".

 

   or 

 

Is not how soldiers go into battle. 

 

That is how they might go to the beach, or to parties or possibly halloween.

 

You get that the two are different right?

 

And please do not think that I have any problem whatsoever with sexuality. I do believe that it should not be on the battlefield. The kind of sexuality that we usually find on the battlefield is the LAST kind you would want in a game and the least fun.

Modifié par Hans Olo, 27 janvier 2015 - 12:56 .

[Mister J]

And yet the sexualisation of some of the characters is the only unrealistic thing you're complaining about here, unless you also got problems with biotics, some of the aliens looks, impossible technology and everything else that makes the difference between Mass Effect and Future Space Warfare Simulator 2007-2012.

 

I can't help but think that that has a little more to do with sexuality than unrealism.

[Hans Olo]

And yet the sexualisation of some of the characters is the only unrealistic thing you're complaining about here, unless you also got problems with biotics, some of the aliens looks, impossible technology and everything else that makes the difference between Mass Effect and Future Space Warfare Simulator 2007-2012.

 

I can't help but think that that has a little more to do with sexuality than unrealism.

 

And yet a century ago people had no idea of the atomic bomb or particles, of relativity, supersonic flights, flying and landing on the moon.

 

We can be confident that a lot will change in the coming centuries, who knows what will be possible. Even if it remains impossible (which is not impossible) then it is called a sci-fi game for a reason.

 

We can also be confident that one thing that will not change like this is the army dress-code, nevermind it going from "armoured, protection, functional" to "skin-tight, obstructive, sexy".

 

You can disagree with me, but you would be wrong.

[SimonTheFrog]

I mean stuff like the breather masks for vacuum:

http://s637.photobuc...nMasks.jpg.html

 

(thanks to zrowngctr for the upload)

 

Of course ME doesn't have to cling to realism like it's life depends on it, but all three parts of the trilogy were a military operation at it's core. The character design should support that rather than contrast it.

YMVW.

[Hans Olo]

I mean stuff like the breather masks for vacuum:

http://s637.photobuc...nMasks.jpg.html

 

(thanks to zrowngctr for the upload)

 

Of course ME doesn't have to cling to realism like it's life depends on it, but all three parts of the trilogy were a military operation at it's core. The character design should support that rather than contrast it.

YMVW.

 

YMVW?

 

The vacuum masks have bothered me for years too.. it is great they can still breathe but that will not help them much when their eyes are sucked or their other orifices start bleeding/draining them from the inside out.

[Mister J]

If you're gonna make the argument that in the future anything is possible so nothing can be described as unrealistic you can't say that this or that dresscode would still be absurd. That's just contradictory.

 

For example: Samara doesn't wear armour because she's got biotic fields for protection so she won't wear heavy armour that would hinder her movement and she's showing her boobs a bit because amongst the asari large matriarch breasts are a symbol of age and the wisdom and experience that come with them.

 

See? I made up an explanation. Piece of cake if in the future and in alien cultures anything is possible.

 

My point stands. It's called Mass Effect and not Future Warfare Simulator. And I still do think you have a problem with sexuality. The subjective and derogatory judgement 'slutty' in your title proves that.