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[Deanna]

So I just got The Stolen Throne and The Calling today and started reading the first one. I wasn't sure where to post this, since there isn't really thread about the books, and since The Stolen Throne is a prequel to origins I figured this the best place to post my question.

I was on the part where Maric and Loghain are talking to Flemeth, and Flemeth tells Maric she wants a promise made in private and to never be spoken to anyone else, ever. But then the chapter just ends and what was promised was never mentioned. Without spoiling the book, will I find out what the promise was? Because when I read that part I was like 'ohhh this should be interesting' and continued to read eagerly and then..nothing. Its going to drive me CRAZY thinking about what was said in the hut, I have to know is it revealed in the book later?

Also I just want to add I love that Maric has the same sense of humor as Alistair (now I know where he gets it ) the joke he made about the wolves sending a rabbit with a note attached sounded exactly like something Alistair would say, I laughed with delight reading that. And I'm probably still going to hate Loghain after reading this cuz he's still an ass in the book. Typical Loghain ugh lol.

[QweenBeen]

Sorry can't answer your question because I'm reading it now too!! I've read it before but my memory is terrible!! I think you do find out though...

But on your loghain comment, I totally found that I loved him as a character. He pulled a Jaime Lannister on me and had me fan ficing romantical thoughts everyone has their preferences but I was pleasantly surprised....

[Deanna]

Yea I'm starting to get that too about Loghain, he's a real bad ass in this book I just wish he wasn't so mmeeeaaann the way he gets annoyed so easily.

[QweenBeen]

Yea I'm starting to get that too about Loghain, he's a real bad ass in this book I just wish he wasn't so mmeeeaaann the way he gets annoyed so easily.

I'm sure they needed to keep him kinda consistent with who he later becomes. I imagine he's a handsome devil tho..

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[Deanna]

Stress will do that to you

[Callidus Thorn]

I don't actually know if the promise gets resolved or not, I can't remember. I have a feeling that the promise was something to do with the events of The Calling

 

 

As for Loghain, after playing the game I hated him. After reading The Stolen Throne my opinion of him changed quite a bit. I wouldn't say that I like him, but I have a measure of respect for him now.

[Deanna]

Well, I just finished the book and I have to say I'm left feeling sad. They accomplished their goal, yes. But Rowan dies and Maric falls into a deep depression. Why? Why did Rowan have to get sick and die :'(. Those things happen I guess but omg I was so hoping for a happily ever after ending (even tho their relationship was forever changed thanks to that Katriel wench)

How do other people feel about the elven bard? I'm just curious. I hated her, I hated that she betrayed Maric and drove him and Rowan apart. Even tho she changed loyalties, the damage she caused was already done, (not just between Maric and Rowan, but what she did at West Hill), I hated her for it and I'm glad she died.

[Callidus Thorn]

I wouldn't really say that she drove Rowan and Maric apart. Rowan was clearly feeling something for Loghain long before Katriel turned up, and it was only her betrothal to Maric that held her back. The night when she's wearing her dress and hears Katriel and Maric, then finds Loghain, we can see clearly just how torn she is. When she pushes Loghain away and says "I cannot... I will not be that woman." She wouldn't break her promise to Maric, however much she wanted Loghain. There was no happily ever after for any of those four (I'm including Katriel in this).

 

As for Katriel, that's a little more complicated. She infiltrated the rebel army, fell for Maric, turned on Severan, refused to murder Maric, and then his life. She then lead Maric, Loghain, and Rowan back to the Rebel army, completely turned on Severan (even leaving instructions on how to kill him), and returned to Maric, knowing she'd been found out. But ultimately she was doing a job, and unlike many who stood against Maric, like those who killed his mother, she owed no loyalty to him when she arrived. I can't really hate her for that, not when she went back to Gwaren to face Maric.

 

Personally, I consider Loghain more of a traitor than Katriel, at least as far as Maric goes. Loghain betrayed him more than once, keeping back information about Katriel which might have stopped Maric simply running her through, then forcing Rowan to go to Maric afterwards, after he'd slept with her. I respect that he forced them together for Fereldan, obeying the promise he gave to put Fereldan before Maric, but still, it was a seriously cold move. And, I'll grant you, a huge sacrifice on his part. Loghain gave up or lost everything he had in The Stolen Throne, and knowing that makes me hate him a lot less for what he did in Origins.

[Jedimaster88]

I actually felt pity for Katriel. I didnt want it to end that way at least. I was more angry about Loghain. The way he acted and all. That arrogant belief that he alone knows how things should be done. Then again I´ve always been a Loghain hater so maybe that colors my opinions a little.

 

For those who wonder about that whole Flemeth promise thing, I understand that the dragon age comics with Alistair will answer that.

[Deanna]

Oh yea, it was obvious there was something between Loghain and Rowan but she also felt something for Maric or she wouldn't have been bothered by him sleeping with Katreil and plus that night in the deep roads with Loghain and Rowan, ddaawww that was sweet. And like Loghain told Maric, she has no reason to keep her betrothal but she did and Rowan didn't strike me as someone who wanted the throne just to be queen. I tried to like Katriel after she basically switched sides but I just couldn't, she ruined alot, but in the end she DID do the right thing, she tried to right her wrong at least. And it was Maric sleeping with her that pushed Rowan to Loghain. Or that's the way I saw it. Its true, two people who are betrothed from birth dont always love each other and Maric and Rowan did love each other but it wasn't 'inlove' more like a brotherly-sisterly love. But gosh all the damn feels, I can't take it D: Lol

Thanks for the opinions guys I just had to get my two sense out there and the comics, I've given up on those, I can never find the complete issues, so yea, whatev lol.

[Obadiah]

Just an FYI, what Maric promised Flemeth is answered in a comic boo - *cough* - I mean, "graphic novel":



Well... if you believe the source of the information.

[TEWR]

What Obadiah said. The promise is answered in the comic/graphic novel series The Silent Grove, which has a story that continues in two others (titled Those Who Speak and Until We Sleep)

[MoonDrummer]

The Katriel situation could have been handled better, but she stilll deserved to die imo.

[Archerwarden]

What Obadiah said. The promise is answered in the comic/graphic novel series The Silent Grove, which has a story that continues in two others (titled Those Who Speak and Until We Sleep)

Thanks for that info- didn't know - guess I'll have to buy the graphic novels then!