So for people saying he and Lavellan don't do the divine dangle spangle, how do you spin this into no boning? LOL.
It could just be a joke. Or maybe they just cuddle?
I think PW did a great job writing a romance where either boning or no boning is totally ok. There is no right answer.
Because it's all based on the pretext that Solas has a penis, and not some god thingy.
Solas: That's not a god thingy
WHY the fu*ck have they not implemented Kevin Hart in as a companion yet!?Solas: That's not a god thingy
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It could just be a joke. Or maybe they just cuddle?
I think PW did a great job writing a romance where either boning or no boning is totally ok. There is no right answer.
Well I'm not going to get into it because well, I dunno, defending his honor, or lack thereof, lol, isn't really important to me. I'll just say I guess you can pretend that means cuddling or he was joking.... but...
come on. Lol. But yea, if people think that, then whatevs.
Bacon.The answer is steak.
That line made me laugh so hard. I was not expecting Solas to say something like that for some reason and it caught me off guard.He says "Getting you into bed is just a side benefit"
Bacon.
You win.
It's meat and it goes on everything.
You win.
People need to get over that line, really. Saying you're a credit to your race means you do them proud. How is that dickish.
Because it's a backhanded compliment that insults the rest of your people, no different then Celene's "solitary rose among brambles" line for Anora and Fereldans, respectively.
If you want to say you do your people proud, then you say "You do your people proud". Not something that goes "Dwarves are stupid and unsubtle but you have shown a wisdom to your actions I have never seen before". He out and out calls the Qunari savages.
It's basically what racist grandpas would say.
And his entire reason for this mentality is because he believes you couldn't possibly have been this way before you got the Mark and that it must've changed you somehow. That's why he asks you "Were you different before you got the Mark? Did it change your morals?" and so on.
Saying "You have wisdom and subtlety" after remarking on how Dwarves are "predictable" ends up knocking the race itself as being the opposite of those two things.
Black white etc are social constructs and nothing more. There is only the human race.
Yes, race as it is in our society is a social construct, one born from the idiotic tendencies of ****** historical people from ages past who saw a difference in melanin as a reason for superiority/inferiority. And yes, we are all humans, but that doesn't mean the lingering effects from what happened then are gone now, because racism is very much a prevalent thing today and I'd argue forever will be because humans are stupid fucks.
Though as cynical as I am, I still hold out hope that we can be more.
For instance, dwarves do in fact suck ass at magic.
Well yeah, they don't have magic, so of course they'd suck at it.
But that has nothing to do with Solas' comments on a Dwarf. It's not about magic and a Dwarf, it's about one Dwarf compared to stereotypical images relating to Dwarves. He uses the magical crap as a means to segue into it, but that's the smaller point really.
Makes sense. BSN does amaze.My face when topic about Solas being 'flavor of the month' is now about 'does Solas have a penis.'
Come on guys. Come on.
Solas is alright, at times I found him interesting and other times I found myself annoyed with his hypocrisy. I'm not interested in a "Wolf Hunt" DLC -- as fans call it. His story arc just seems like such a blatant rip off of Morrigan's story; which baffles me to no end -- because for a fandom that constantly claims they want everything to be different and new for each subsequent installment, they sure as hell don't have a problem playing the same charecter arcs over again.
Solas is just a male Morrigan -- except this time, instead of being pregnant with a god, the charecter actually is one.
My face when topic about Solas being 'flavor of the month' is now about 'does Solas have a penis.'
Come on guys. Come on.
"Solas' flavor of the month" and "Solas' penis" are not necessarily mutually exclusive topics. 
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First point, it seems people really misunderstood what I was saying if saying racism is prevalent seems necessary. I very much know that, believe you me.
Next, tbh, what you said in your text, I can understand why people raised eyebrows. The comment itself though "You're a credit to your race" is really no different at all from you do your people proud. Like at all, really. But the stuff he apparently says before, yea I can see it. He's not very pleased with anyone in the modern world though. And honestly I doubt he was of his time either, given everyone fucked up and died.
Anyway, at the very least I'm glad you do get what I was saying about the racial construct thing. Glad this isn't a foreign concept to people.
"Solas' flavor of the month" and "Solas' penis" are not necessarily mutually exclusive topics.
I bet it tastes like egg.
And that's why he's Hen'Harel.
You are all awful people.
You are all awful people.
What can I say, I crack myself up.
Has this been confirmed? I've been desperately seeking info from BioWare on it but haven't come up with anything yet.
Also, hi, I'm new here!
Hi! 
Bioware hasn't made a statement or anything, its just obvious his story isn't done. You don't reveal yourself to be a god, kill one of the most popular characters, leave for mysterious unknown reasons, and then not get more content!
The only question is whether the content will be DLC or a new game. I'm pretty sure it'll be DLC because a new protagonist would be unfair to the people who romanced him.
My face when topic about Solas being 'flavor of the month' is now about 'does Solas have a penis.'
Come on guys. Come on.
My face when reading this entire thread:
(Maybe we can turn this into a "disdainful Inquisitor screenshots" thread).
Because it's a backhanded compliment that insults the rest of your people, no different then Celene's "solitary rose among brambles" line for Anora and Fereldans, respectively.
If you want to say you do your people proud, then you say "You do your people proud". Not something that goes "Dwarves are stupid and unsubtle but you have shown a wisdom to your actions I have never seen before". He out and out calls the Qunari savages.
It's basically what racist grandpas would say.
And his entire reason for this mentality is because he believes you couldn't possibly have been this way before you got the Mark and that it must've changed you somehow. That's why he asks you "Were you different before you got the Mark? Did it change your morals?" and so on.
Saying "You have wisdom and subtlety" after remarking on how Dwarves are "predictable" ends up knocking the race itself as being the opposite of those two things.
Hmmm, yes and no. Solas gives the same sort of seemingly-backhanded compliment to every Inquisitor that has high approval with him. Even the elf. I think that says a lot about Solas. He says himself that he puts his faith in people. In individuals. And he distrusts groups as a rule. So he blanketly dislikes the Dalish as a group, but is fine with a Dalish Inquisitor so long as they seem willing to question the Dalish's assumptions. Same with the Qunari and Iron Bull, or Cassandra and the Seekers. Which fits his whole god of rebellion, champion of freedom of thought thing. He's going to focus more on the flaws in any collective group; like how the Dwarves' commitment to isolationism is slowly destroying them, or how the Qunari brainwash their citizens, or how the Templars have a long history of horrific abuses of power. He realizes, however, that this doesn't mean that every Dwarf is a stubborn isolationist or every Templar is a monster. He condemns the group, not the individual, because he doesn't like it when anybody just accepts the party line without questioning it. Solas isn't a perfect character, but I don't think "racist grandpa" is a proper description. He's more of an all-around cynical bastard. 
There's also a lot more going on in that scene than what he's saying. You notice that he's really cagey and weird throughout the whole thing. He's trying to tell you what you mean to him, but he can't give you the context to fully explain. When he says, "You have shown a wisdom that I have not seen since...since my deepest journeys into the Fade" he's basically telling you that you are the best person he's met in more than a thousand years. Now, I'm sure the Inquisitor is a wonderful and intelligent person, however I also think that a pretty big factor in Solas's regard is the fact that the Inquisitor (who has done his personal quest) is the only person in more than a thousand years who Solas has been able to trust, and who has gratified that trust by being there for him when he needed them. So the Inquisitor is not only using Solas's power to save the world, but they're also managing to run an organization that is succeeding at changing Thedas for the better, and they have also proved to be a trustworthy friend. Solas's weird question about the Anchor is basically him thinking that this is all way too good to be true.
When he says, "You have shown a wisdom that I have not seen since...since my deepest journeys into the Fade" he's basically telling you that you are the best person he's met in more than a thousand years
Oh I get all that. I understand much of Solas' character. He's debating on whether or not to confess to the Inquisitor who he really is and he decides that no, he probably shouldn't.
Hmmm, yes and no. Solas gives the same sort of seemingly-backhanded compliment to every Inquisitor that has high approval with him. Even the elf. I think that says a lot about Solas.
You could argue that a Dalish Elf who gave a backhanded compliment to a City Elf would still have problems. Simply being part of the same race doesn't mean one can't espouse shitty things -- and for Solas, though he wasn't around for when the Imperium ground the remaining Elves into slaves, he was around for when the Elves of Arlathan did it to each other.
And while he does have issues with that and being a god of rebellion would've tried to change things (and did try), that doesn't mean it might not have affected his outlook on things, in some way, when it was happening.
Consider Sera, in fact. He takes issue with how she lives her life because she's not Elf-y enough. While Sera's far from perfect herself (internalized racism to say the least), for a god of rebellion to demean and chastise an Elven woman for not being Elf-y enough to him smacks to me of hypocrisy for a so called god of rebellion that favors freedom of thought -- but then... the dude's false name does translate to Pride.
He wants people to choose their own walk of life.... but for some people only if it fits his preconceptions of what they should be. Qunari can't choose to follow the Qun because they're just brainwashed, and if they DON'T have it they're savages. Elves need to be Elf-y, it doesn't matter if they'd rather live a life they want that makes them happy.
The equivalent for our world would be people telling black people they're not acting black enough, I imagine.
Only one he budges on slightly is Dwarves, and even then he still doesn't know as much about Dwarves as he thinks he does (though the Dwarves don't know much about their history either, from both inner corruption and the outer corruption)
like how the Dwarves' commitment to isolationism is slowly destroying them, or how the Qunari brainwash their citizens
Yes, he will focus on the flaws inherent in the system, but in the context of this particular quote he's not talking about Dwarven foreign policy or the Qun itself. He bluntly says the Qunari are savages that are only kept in check by the Qun's rigid standards.
That's.... not a very endearing attitude. If he said that the Qunari sacrifice so much to adhere to the Qun's standards, it'd be different, but he is very matter-of-fact on how he views them.
As it stands, I don't disagree with him on Dwarven foreign policy being too isolationist and traditional. That much I stand by. But I do take issue with his attitude of "I know your people better then you do despite my only interaction with 'people' being memories seen in the Fade" -- that can themselves deceive you -- after he pretty much states that he doesn't even really see Dwarves in the Fade at all (of course, Dwarves and Elves no doubt interacted ages ago before the fall of Arlathan. As I remember, it was stated as much).
(note, I am not talking about the denizens of the Fade themselves in that Solas remark above, but rather just Fade dreams)
Solas isn't a perfect character, but I don't think "racist grandpa" is a proper description
It was merely a remark that it's a comment racist grandpas in our world use, not necessarily me stating he is the equivalent of one.
is the only person in more than a thousand years who Solas has been able to trust
Point of contention: The Denizens of the Fade would be people he could trust. He's been sleeping for millenia and interacting with them, one of them being a close friend of his.
So he's not lacking for people he can trust, considering he's adamant that they are people.
So the Inquisitor is not only using Solas's power to save the world, but they're also managing to run an organization that is succeeding at changing Thedas for the better, and they have also proved to be a trustworthy friend. Solas's weird question about the Anchor is basically him thinking that this is all way too good to be true.
"Change for the better" remains to be seen, as he will ask you what you intend to do and if you say as much he's dubious, though he admittedly does acquiesce if you tell him you'll keep trying.
As for the Anchor, I'd say it could be both, but we won't see eye to eye on that one.
Fair enough. I'd say that the Qunari situation is a bit more complex, though. Bull basically says the same thing that Solas does during the post-dragon drinking scene (that the Qun is needed to keep the savage impulses of the Qunari in line), and given that it's heavily hinted that the Qunari are the result of genetic experimentation with dragons, who's to say that this is entirely wrong? However, Solas also argues with Bull that the Tal'vashoth are violent because the Qun has taught them no other way to live. You're either under the Qun or you behave violently. And if Bull becomes a Tal'vashoth himself, Solas reassures him that he won't go mad, and tells him that he is there for him. Judging from that, as well as his compassion for those living under the Qun, I'd say that he doesn't think that all Qunari are savages, but that perhaps he recognizes that they have some sort of predisposition to violence because of their heritage.
As for Sera, I think she frustrates him on a number of levels. He has a very visceral reaction to her because she's basically what he's afraid every elf is going to become; assimilated into human society and losing what vestiges of their own culture that they have left. And whenever he tries to reach out to her in order to understand her better, she rebuffs him. Of course, that's not surprising given that he tries to reach out to her by talking about elf stuff, but that's the only way he knows how to approach her. I actually really like their relationship, because for all they frustrate one another, they also come to a certain understanding in the end. Solas even says that he envies her.
He actually seems to understand her quite well, and also understands that he has very conflicted feelings towards her, some of which probably do her a disservice. He does admire her rebelliousness, and her single-minded devotion to her goals (even tries offering her advice on the Red Jennies at one point), but he's frustrated by her refusal to look at the big picture and stubborn adherence to her black-and-white view of the world.
Point of contention: The Denizens of the Fade would be people he could trust. He's been sleeping for millenia and interacting with them, one of them being a close friend of his.
So he's not lacking for people he can trust, considering he's adamant that they are people.
Well he says himself, multiple times, that it's been a long time since he's been able to rely on and trust someone. Spirits are definitely people, but they're not human (or, well, mortal might be a better term). They're beings of pure purpose. So, yes, one can have very good friends among spirits, but it's not the same as having friends who are not spirits. I got the sense that Solas needs both. He admires spirits very much, but in a conversation with Cole he reminds Cole (and himself) that he is not a spirit. Solas's loneliness runs very deep, and it hasn't been alleviated by having friends in the Fade. He needs someone who he can rely on outside of the Fade, and who can relate to him as a fellow non-spirit being.
My face when reading this entire thread:
Spoiler(Maybe we can turn this into a "disdainful Inquisitor screenshots" thread).
Hmmm, yes and no. Solas gives the same sort of seemingly-backhanded compliment to every Inquisitor that has high approval with him. Even the elf. I think that says a lot about Solas. He says himself that he puts his faith in people. In individuals. And he distrusts groups as a rule. So he blanketly dislikes the Dalish as a group, but is fine with a Dalish Inquisitor so long as they seem willing to question the Dalish's assumptions. Same with the Qunari and Iron Bull, or Cassandra and the Seekers. Which fits his whole god of rebellion, champion of freedom of thought thing. He's going to focus more on the flaws in any collective group; like how the Dwarves' commitment to isolationism is slowly destroying them, or how the Qunari brainwash their citizens, or how the Templars have a long history of horrific abuses of power. He realizes, however, that this doesn't mean that every Dwarf is a stubborn isolationist or every Templar is a monster. He condemns the group, not the individual, because he doesn't like it when anybody just accepts the party line without questioning it. Solas isn't a perfect character, but I don't think "racist grandpa" is a proper description. He's more of an all-around cynical bastard.
There's also a lot more going on in that scene than what he's saying. You notice that he's really cagey and weird throughout the whole thing. He's trying to tell you what you mean to him, but he can't give you the context to fully explain. When he says, "You have shown a wisdom that I have not seen since...since my deepest journeys into the Fade" he's basically telling you that you are the best person he's met in more than a thousand years. Now, I'm sure the Inquisitor is a wonderful and intelligent person, however I also think that a pretty big factor in Solas's regard is the fact that the Inquisitor (who has done his personal quest) is the only person in more than a thousand years who Solas has been able to trust, and who has gratified that trust by being there for him when he needed them. So the Inquisitor is not only using Solas's power to save the world, but they're also managing to run an organization that is succeeding at changing Thedas for the better, and they have also proved to be a trustworthy friend. Solas's weird question about the Anchor is basically him thinking that this is all way too good to be true.
One disdainful Inquisitor coming right up!
My face when topic about Solas being 'flavor of the month' is now about 'does Solas have a penis.'
Come on guys. Come on.
I'm sure some people in this thread would love to 'come on' the change of topic .
All that text dropped just to explain why Solas' comment was mean.
I think I'd much rather just have thicker skin and not be a ****** about everything. lol
Because 'Punch Solas' is more then epic enough to have people talking only about him
All that text dropped just to explain why Solas' comment was mean.
I think I'd much rather just have thicker skin and not be a ****** about everything. lol
And miss all of this interesting character discussion? More worthwhile than a lot of the other stuff that's been going down in this thread.
Besides, I enjoy hashing out character motivations and seeing how people interpreted things differently than I did.
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