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[Colonelkillabee]

And miss all of this interesting character discussion? More worthwhile than a lot of the other stuff that's been going down in this thread.

 

Besides, I enjoy hashing out character motivations and seeing how people interpreted things differently than I did.

Oh no, I don't blame you for slugging it out for our thread, lol, I'm just laughing because if I was insulted by a character, I'd never bother going that out of my way to explain why... It's just easier to take Solas by what he meant, rather than what one wants to think he meant because of thin skin.

 

Especially if you're a Dwarf. They eat rocks and you got offended?? LOLOLOL.

[jellobell]

I no, I don't blame you for slugging it out for our thread, lol, I'm just laughing because if I was insulted by a character, I'd never bother going that out of my way to explain why... It's just easier to take Solas by what he meant, rather than what one wants to think he meant because of thin skin.

You've gone native, Killabee! Never thought I'd see the day. 

[Colonelkillabee]

You've gone native, Killabee! Never thought I'd see the day. 

Knew you'd catch that, lol. Yep, Solas is my bro, and Solas is the ****.

[Ajna]

Knew you'd catch that, lol. Yep, Solas is my bro, and Solas is the ****.

One of us! One of us!

[macready1988]

Um, Inquisition pretty much confirms that yes, the elves did live eternally, due partly to the veil not being a thing, and it also has been shoving elven culture in your face pretty much saying "I'm not saying it was elves... but it was elves," all over the place.

I suggest you just get over it tbh? And spirits, gods... what is a god but a very powerful spirit/being? Semantics.

Elves never lived forever. You know why? Because they *dont* live forever. Beings that live forever dont STOP living forever. Its kind of covered by that "forever" bit.

I dont doubt they were adapt at manipulating their lifespans through magic, but the idea that they were "tainted" by humans is probably part in parcel as to why they got their asses whupped into submission (by whom exactly is up for historical debate).

Look, i dont know how much clearer i can make this point but if you failed to pick up on the fact that a lot of dragon age involves coming to your own conclusions in how the writing is done, then thats your issue not mine. I for one however have a less flattering view of elves.

Oh and that part about spirits and gods? Spirits arent viewed as creators. The elven gods are, to the elves at least. I view that as an outright falsehood. Just like with the maker.

[Ajna]

*raises eyebrow*

[Colonelkillabee]

Elves never lived forever. You know why? Because they *dont* live forever. Beings that live forever dont STOP living forever. Its kind of covered by that "forever" bit.

I dont doubt they were adapt at manipulating their lifespans through magic, but the idea that they were "tainted" by humans is probably part in parcel as to why they got their asses whupped into submission (by whom exactly is up for historical debate).

Look, i dont know how much clearer i can make this point but if you failed to pick up on the fact that a lot of dragon age involves coming to your own conclusions in how the writing is done, then thats your issue not mine. I for one however have a less flattering view of elves.

Oh and that part about spirits and gods? Spirits arent viewed as creators. The elven gods are, to the elves at least. I view that as an outright falsehood. Just like with the maker.

Holy **** dude, your semantics argument does you no credit. They did live forever, as in no aging, then later this ability left them. Not a hard concept to grasp. Whether they were effected by humans or not I'm not sure. I think this left them when the fade and the world split apart.
 

They kicked their own asses by the way, that's pretty much fact at this point. And no, dragon age is not about coming up with your own conclusions. You can, until the game says no, you're wrong, this is how it is. And that's what they did with what you are saying. They told you that you were wrong, and you simply can't let go of your false truths because of butthurt about elven lore.

 

And how you view things is irrelevant, really. Not much better than Sera yelling "LALALALALA! IT ISN'T REAL!" And god himself in my religion is called the father, the son, and the holy spirit. This isn't a new concept.

 

Do I think Solas is a spirit though? No. My point was that what you are doing is holding on to semantics to ignore what is presented because of Bias. He is an immensely powerful being, or was at least. One that split the world into the veil and Thedas, and sealed all the other gods, old gods and the elven, and somehow that makes him not worthy of being considered one?

 

Not everyone holds to the christian idea of a god. Your view is NOT superior.

 

[Ryriena]

Rise eyebrows, this is a game.


Dude to me he is a god and not everyone views in your version of what a god to them like me for exmaple. I am an athiest but believe their are many gods becuase have you seen some of the magic they can pull off Nope then your gods don't exist.

[lynroy]

Elves never lived forever. You know why? Because they *dont* live forever. Beings that live forever dont STOP living forever. Its kind of covered by that "forever" bit.

I dont doubt they were adapt at manipulating their lifespans through magic, but the idea that they were "tainted" by humans is probably part in parcel as to why they got their asses whupped into submission (by whom exactly is up for historical debate).

Look, i dont know how much clearer i can make this point but if you failed to pick up on the fact that a lot of dragon age involves coming to your own conclusions in how the writing is done, then thats your issue not mine. I for one however have a less flattering view of elves.

Oh and that part about spirits and gods? Spirits arent viewed as creators. The elven gods are, to the elves at least. I view that as an outright falsehood. Just like with the maker.

[Ryriena]

Spock

[macready1988]

Your view is NOT superior.

Bahahaha! Did you honestly just write that? Honestly? Look this business with Elves? Solas? Mythal? Its like Andraste. Was she really the bride of the maker or not. I say no. I dont say anyone else should think this.

Go back to my first post. I stated my views on Elves and how I dont believe them to be made up as all that they are.

Youve started this with your pathetic "youre just butthurt its all like i say it because the game says so". Ive disagreed enough times now so if you could kindly drop it? Ive seen enough of your other posts elsewhere to know you get a kick out of being pompous so this is all it amounts to now.

I DONT dislike Solas. I dislike the elves however and thats due to my own experiences in game. End of.

[Colonelkillabee]

Bahahaha! Did you honestly just write that? Honestly? Look this business with Elves? Solas? Mythal? Its like Andraste. Was she really the bride of the maker or not. I say no. I dont say anyone else should think this.

Go back to my first post. I stated my views on Elves and how I dont believe them to be made up as all that they are.

Youve started this with your pathetic "youre just butthurt its all like i say it because the game says so". Ive disagreed enough times now so if you could kindly drop it? Ive seen enough of your other posts elsewhere to know you get a kick out of being pompous so this is all it amounts to now.

I DONT dislike Solas. I dislike the elves however and thats due to my own experiences in game. End of.

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Dude, go to bed. Yea I wrote that and I was talking about what you consider to be a god.

 

You can't sit here and get mad because you're wrong, and comically so. The elves and what we were told isn't all true no, but what you are saying is incorrect. I'm sorry but I don't know how else to hammer that into your head besides:

 

 

LOL.

 

And if not letting people get away with slinging bullshit and trying to tell me it's gold means I'm pompous, then **** it, I embrace it.

[jellobell]

[lynroy]

I just died laughing! Thank you

[AWTEW]

Holy **** dude, your semantics argument does you no credit. They did live forever, as in no aging, then later this ability left them. Not a hard concept to grasp. Whether they were effected by humans or not I'm not sure. I think this left them when the fade and the world split apart.

They kicked their own asses by the way, that's pretty much fact at this point. And no, dragon age is not about coming up with your own conclusions. You can, until the game says no, you're wrong, this is how it is. And that's what they did with what you are saying. They told you that you were wrong, and you simply can't let go of your false truths because of butthurt about elven lore.

And how you view things is irrelevant, really. Not much better than Sera yelling "LALALALALA! IT ISN'T REAL!" And god himself in my religion is called the father, the son, and the holy spirit. This isn't a new concept.

Do I think Solas is a spirit though? No. My point was that what you are doing is holding on to semantics to ignore what is presented because of Bias. He is an immensely powerful being, or was at least. One that split the world into the veil and Thedas, and sealed all the other gods, old gods and the elven, and somehow that makes him not worthy of being considered one?

Not everyone holds to the christian idea of a god. Your view is NOT superior.

Actually, mine is superior. there is only one god and his name is allah, and mohammed is his prophet...you shall all submit to the qun i mean koran..

[Colonelkillabee]

Actually, mine is there is only one god and his name is allah, and mohammed is his prophet...you shall all submit to the qun i mean koran..

I feel like this is some grade A bait, lol. No matter what I say someone somewhere's going to get offended, so I'll refrain.

Syke! Suck my human self righteous hairy ones, the both of ya! We have bacon, your argument is invalid

[Miss This or That]

I think we can all agree that Elves screwed up big time, though, right? Sooo let's get out the casks. Don't worry, be happy.

[Colonelkillabee]

I think we can all agree that Elves screwed up big time, though, right? Sooo let's get out the casks. Don't worry, be happy.

LOL yea you did

[AWTEW]

I feel like this is some grade A bait, lol. No matter what I say someone somewhere's going to get offended, so I'll refrain.
Syke! Suck my human self righteous hairy ones, the both of ya! We have bacon, your argument is invalid

Is it bait?or is it the amber liquid at the bottom of a glass? or perhaps it is the truth within a truth, that is a lie, within a truth, that cannot lie, but is also a truth?

Oh wait, i know its that blasted toothfairy!

[Colonelkillabee]

Is it bait?or is it the amber liquid at the bottom of a glass? or perhaps it is the truth within a truth, that is a lie, within a truth, that cannot lie, but is also a truth?

The truth within a truth that is a lie within a truth that cannot lie but is also a truth...

 

The answer is an opinion

[AWTEW]

The truth within a truth that is a lie within a truth that cannot lie but is also a truth...
 
The answer is an opinion

naw dawhg, i'm pretty surre the cold hard truth, is a fact within fiction, that is a truth disguised as a lie, under the guise of an opinion.

[rda]

I have nothing constructive whatsoever to add to this conversation, but am I the only one who sees the title, and thinks, "Is he like strawberry? Or vanilla? Or..."

::ducks::

[Colonelkillabee]

naw dawhg, i'm pretty surre the cold hard truth, is a fact within fiction, that is a truth disguised as a lie, under the guise of an opinion.

A fact specifies that it is truth, so we can knock truth out and leave disguise. So we're left with a fact within fiction, which also means it's within a lie, and something that isn't an opinion, but people think it so.

 

Simple. A fact within fiction? That there is only one god. Fact. That his name is Allah, the fiction, and people take that as an opinion. But it's not

 

Haha lol.

 

And I think I actually will leave our little joke there, in case someone actually does get all butthurt about it.

[jellobell]

I have nothing constructive whatsoever to add to this conversation, but am I the only one who sees the title, and thinks, "Is he like strawberry? Or vanilla? Or..."

::ducks::

Well the food that the writers compared him to were Scotch Bonnet Candies. Which apparently taste like burning spicy death.

[Miss This or That]

I thought about ice cream flavours... "Taste Solas ice cream! The best since old Arlathan! With a hint of despair and a lot of dread. We also offer Abelas ice cream with the beautiful mix of elegance and sorrow!"