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Can't finish DAI, it's just too boring


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Anyone that spent in game more than 50+h for that money should not even complain, couse there is not many AAA titles these days that will give you even 30h of gameplay (talking about singleplayer obviously) and to be honest if you managed to play for 50h and after that complaining about how horrible is the game..... seems like disorder or something:)

 

I considered myself very brave spending with game 14h. Haven't played for 2 weeks since game is really boring, and i feel it's designed for less smart console kids.

I may consider finishing It since I always go through game that I buy but I will probably wait for proper sound and banter fix.

I bought the game, why the hell wouldn't i play it for more than 50hrs? even if there are things i don't like about it I've already bought it and may aswell play it otherwise i just wasted money.


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I hope this doesn't sound snarky, totally don't mean it to be *but* you're using anecdotal evidence, and it's a poor way to come to a decision on well, anything. You can't argue 'because I, nor any of the people around me, are having problems, this must mean the problem must be small', because it's a nonsensical conclusion.



Oh, I fully realize I'm using anecdotal evidence. I tried to make sure I didn't say "well, I don't see these issues so they don't exist". I know they do. I have experienced a couple myself. (constant drumming in Skyhold being one of them but it only happens on rare occasions)

However, I think it's equally nonsensical to look at all the complaints on the Internet and assume it's the majority experience.

I used to take customer service calls for an online company. Day in and day out we'd get complaints about this that and everything regarding the website and the product. It as easy to think that everyone who had an account had a shitty experience. But when we look at the data (active customers who called in for complaints vs those who didn't ), it was obvious we were dealing with the minority.

It's my feeling that we are dealing with something similar here. I have no evidence, of course. Pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong.
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Can you prove that the majority are experiencing problems? I have not experienced many problems playing on PC. Neither has my husband. A friend of mine plays on PS3 and his biggest complaint was small font (which gave him an excuse to get a bigger tv). Another friend of mine plays on PC and she did have to upgrade to play the game but that's because she was below minimum requirements (tri-core vs. quad-core). I know that's a pretty small pool but so far so good in my camp.

My friends and I could very well be the exception to the rule, but at this point I'm inclined to think that most don't have too many problems and the BSN houses a vocal minority.

When did i say the majority are experiencing problems?

 

You can think whatever you want, theres a thread full of complaints about bugs and you can't prove they are a minority or not, even if they were they are still paying customers and that makes them no less important than you or anyone else.


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When did i say the majority are experiencing problems?



You didn't, but by asking if someone could prove it was the minority, you opened yourself up to the reverse question.

You can thin whatever you want, theres a thread full of complaints about bugs and you can't prove they are a minority or not, even if they were they are still paying customers and that makes them no less important than you or anyone else.


I'm certainly not saying this at all and I don't believe I have done so. Bugs and playability is very important whether it's the minority or majority. They should be fixed and soon.

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You didn't, but by asking if someone could prove it was the minority, you opened yourself up to the reverse question.


I'm certainly not saying this at all and I don't believe I have done so. Bugs and playability is very important whether it's the minority or majority. They should be fixed and soon.

No i didn't. He claimed people with bugs were in the minority with nothing to back it up, i didn't claim they were or weren't.

 

Finally we agree on something, they should be fixed.


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EAware, not Bioware.

 

Fixed it.



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No i didn't. He claimed people with bugs were in the minority with nothing to back it up, i didn't claim they were or weren't.


Ah, you are right. I don't know why I thought you were arguing that it was the majority. My apologies.

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and to be honest if you managed to play for 50h and after that complaining about how horrible is the game..... seems like disorder or something

 

 

...

 

Really?



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...and manage this community.

 

I spit my drink out on that one. 



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A very disappointing game - I doubt it can be salvaged. 

 

There's something so uninspired about it, but if I get very very very bored, it's ok as a hiking sim.


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First half of DAI was almost boring to me and I had to force myself to play it. Then when I got to the Skyhold keep, DAI got interesting enough and I played it to the end and did all the quests too.

 

Graphics and cut scenes kept me going though a lot of the game.

 

Just too simplifed, dumbed down, and too short of a game for my taste. Plus the quality of the main quest, plots and even side quests wasn't there. The addictive factor from DAO for me wasn't in DAI.


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A very disappointing game - I doubt it can be salvaged. 
 
There's something so uninspired about it, but if I get very very very bored, it's ok as a hiking sim.


No need to salvage a ship sailing well on it's own. Currently, myself and others are still enjoying the ride.
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"Hiking sim" <--------------------------------- LOL!!!!


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This button mashing nightmare reminds me of the severe disconnect some companies (cough...cough Creative Assembly) have with their fan base.  Stick to playstations it seems that is your passion EA.  This game had potential but the class/combat mechanics really kill it for me.  The MMO quests and useless build up for a final battle is just sad.  The character graphics are subpar for a new release.  Had to run on old playstations so that could explain it.  Oh and who neutered Varric...I use to love that guy....now I just run past him to avoid his whining.  In a word...Tedious  


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I thought the exactly same about Varric :). What happened to you man, you used to be cool??



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I love button mashing... but more along the lines of DA:2 and Diablo 3.. not this clunky rubbish that DA:I has happening.

 

Gotta admit though, gives your fingers/hands a good workout... and for inappropriate reasons I will not list here, can come in handy. ;) 


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Yep, agree with the OP.

 

Although DAI is a gorgeous looking game (its single greatest strength), the UI and Controls (which BTW are absolutely critical to get right in a game like this) are total trash, the PC version being the worst of the lot, which is not at all Keyboard & Mouse friendly. 

Mechanics like tac cam gets in the way instead of being an aid. Total failure.

 

To be using the same stupid antagonist TWICE in a series AFTER you killed him? What a joke! That and the plot in general is just so painfully dull and boring.

Remove the exploration, tedious side quests, leaving only the main campaign visible... A very weak story line indeed!

And on top of that, having built an Inquisition throughout the game matters absolutely ZERO at the end. Totally ridiculous!

The individuals behind the writing has truly lost their edge and imagination. With such rich lore and opportunities, to come up with whatever this is....I don't even know what to say about that. They should be embarrassed. 

 

Bioware claims that DAI is a "mature" fantasy RPG. It really isn't. I feel like they are treating me like an under-age child the entire time. Way too much hand holding and compromised content. The reason being glaringly obvious: their attempt to appeal to the masses.

Biggest mistake they've made.

 

DAO was the only game in the series where you get to the end of the game and feel like they have kept the same standard and quality going all the way through to the credits.

Since DA2, with DAI to a higher degree, the story, cinematics,  - everything really - degrades steadily as the story progresses.

The destruction of Haven was the highlight of the game. The end, which should have been the highlight, was absolutely underwhelming and disappointing.

 

Like Rawgrim mentioned, this game had the potential to be an absolute classic, but Bioware made compromises around every turn and they wasted a golden opportunity.

 

This title has damaged the integrity of the franchise even more than DA2 did. Because where DA2 may have been short-sighted and dumbed down to a large degree, at least it was an honest game. 

 

Bioware bowing to EA has cheapened Dragon Age. They sold their 5-star cuisine recipes to a fast-food chain. 

 

Or maybe their balls just dropped off.

 

::shrugs and walks away::


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Well that's too bad. I am having a great time, I also play on PC and I don't understand what the big deal about the controls is..? Granted I don't use the tactical cam, but I really fail to see the big deal here. Can anyone explain to me why I am supposed to hate the controls?

You answered your own question.

 

And neither do i.



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Anyone that spent in game more than 50+h for that money should not even complain, couse there is not many AAA titles these days that will give you even 30h of gameplay (talking about singleplayer obviously) and to be honest if you managed to play for 50h and after that complaining about how horrible is the game..... seems like disorder or something:)

 

I considered myself very brave spending with game 14h. Haven't played for 2 weeks since game is really boring, and i feel it's designed for less smart console kids.

I may consider finishing It since I always go through game that I buy but I will probably wait for proper sound and banter fix.

 

There is a huge difference between a 30-hour long game with quality content and a 50 or 100 hour game that consists of picking herbs and collecting shards in areas that are actually too big. Too big, because they are also empty.

So it is far from 50 hours spent on quality content. That is NOT value for money, especially considering this is the most expensive PC game I have ever paid for.

DAI is mostly void of quality content - all we really have is a weak main story that could have been concluded when encountering the antagonist for the first time. And then the content in-between is deliberately crafted to be a tedious chore, take the Winter Palace for example. Or side quests with absolutely no relevance to the main plot or the interests of the Inquisition.

Neither is there any personal quest for the Inquisitor - he/she is merely a wooden puppet with a glowing hand.

 

Total shite, if you ask me.

 

But Bioware has succeeded very cunningly in seducing the masses with this shiny polished turd. So if you're after a shallow, hollow and mostly generic game, then DAI is definitely for you!

But fans of the series have been left feeling pretty disappointed because we expected something at least as good as DAO, you see?


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Well... we all know how the masses love shiny, polished turds.

 

*Cough* Twilight *cough*


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A very disappointing game - I doubt it can be salvaged. 

 

There's something so uninspired about it, but if I get very very very bored, it's ok as a hiking sim.

 

Dragon Age: Hikequisition. Epic routes, beautiful camping sites, helpful requisition officers. Danger! Intrigue! The stuff of songs! Anyone who is into walking or strolling will adore this yawn-and-quit epic! 


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And again, this disabled Techless One manages to play 530+ hrs on a basic KB&M set-up utilizing Pause and Tac-Cam with little problems at all. A very simple re-map of the Options and Keys, and some practice on the new Tac-Cam, and things have been stable and smooth; more so than in Skyrim or the ME series.

Looked forward to Cory appearing again, as well as some other old friends from the past games. For myself, it was an epic conclusion to the Mage/ Templar conflict, ridding Thedas of a Darkspawn Magister, and restoring the Chantry for future games.

Beautiful areas are included for exploration and tactical advantage. Red Templars blocking a gate entrance? Use the mountain trails and cliff faces to go around and behind them. Opposing slavers and Mages dug in to their camps? Use the shallow valleys in the desert sands to get close before swarming their positions. Lots of opportunity to gain terrain superiority.

While I am not a fan of harvesting or alchemy myself, the banter of the party alleviates much of the tedium of collecting herbs and ore. Rich characters with a wide range of personalities makes for a great mix of varied dialogue and conversation.

Great game, and worthy of all of the GOTY accolades it is currently garnishing!

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And again, this disabled Techless One manages to play 530+ hrs on a basic KB&M set-up utilizing Pause and Tac-Cam with little problems at all. A very simple re-map of the Options and Keys, and some practice on the new Tac-Cam, and things have been stable and smooth; more so than in Skyrim or the ME series.

 

 

Wait, wait, wait......

 

So you say I can go ahead and do a basic setup with little problems at all? Gosh, that sounds great! (and I'm not even disabled, so this is going to be awesome)

 

Just map this key to this command and that one to....oh wait, I can't map this key to tac cam because it's already in use...and if I do this one, I lose the binding I had set up outside tac-cam.

So tac-cam and action mode share key bindings...brilliant!

Moving on....

At least I have all these snazzy buttons on my mouse that I can use to map commands to, right? You know, like in EVERY. OTHER. GAME. EVER. MADE.

 

Nope!

 

OK last resort, I will just use the alternative set of mappings so I can get around this little problem...except, this game does not have alternative mappings, you know... like DA2 had?

 

I must be really stupid, having played DAO and DA2 and never ONCE having had a problem with key bindings...

Let me just reset to defaults here....aaah, that's better. 

Except, now I am having a really hard time enjoying the game because I have to spend so much time and effort figuring out the counter-intuitive tac-cam, which does not at all flow with action cam.....ummmm....

 

I'm not really having a good time with this...and I feel a little embarrassed, because I'm not even disabled.

 

Let me plug in my controller, maybe that works better.

 

Nope. Hate it.

 

So what am I to do? Oh I get it! All I have to do is read how people are NOT having any issues and then I will magically adapt and change my preferences in favour of theirs.

 

I really wish you had made this post earlier, you know?

 

Thank you so much for opening my eyes to this! Now I can finally enjoy this game! You're a goddamn saint, you are!


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Yep! Both Movement and Tac-Cam utilize WASD and Q&E for strafing; utilizing synergy. Pause is moved to Spacebar like in the ME games, as is the Targeting key which remains set to Tab. No need to re-map the Mouse, as it will work like the Award winning UI mechanics from SWTOR. And as this set-up is going so well, no need to scrap everything to go back to Default.

Of course, I realized that this is not the set-up from games made several years ago, so I read some reviews explaining the frustration met on the first day. So making these changes was easy to do before gameplay; an investment of time I merit as worthy, considering some of the annoyance others appeared to be having. And here I am now; with 530+ hrs and a praise-worthy game still offering plenty of entertainment value.

But I have an advantage. While my stroke left me with some brain damage, I am not 'really stupid' like some others care to admit; have no notion what their excuse might be, so I now choose to Ignore them....

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I don't think that the game is to long at all. Epic journey! But the game is to easy, I wish they add one more harder difficulty then Nightmare.