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[JimBlandings]

SPOILERS AHEAD OBVIOUSLY

 

 

So the player spends anywhere between 30-100 hours building up the Inquisition to fight in the epic battle to save all mankind...

 

This is the idea of the game.  This is what is being used to advertise it.

 

But then at the end of the game Cullen tells you they aren't ready yet and you are left to fight the badguy on your own.

 

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Okay, ME2 may have been a completely illogical waste of time and space in story terms but at least that didn't end with you after having spent 30 hours recruiting your team to just jolly off and fight the collectors on your own.

 

And the ending of ME3 may have sucked the stinky rectum of a skunk but AT LEAST they showed the forces you built for your final battle engaging in battle even if its effect was as shallow as a kiddie pool.

 

What makes matters worse if that Cullen told us before that his troops were coming along nicely and would be ready to fight.

 

What happened?

 

All that is left is an anti-climatic, dull fight with one boss that lasted about ten minutes never once put me in any danger of dying.  What was the difference between fighting him and any other "boss" in the early stages of the game when the Inquisition wasn't built?  What advantages did you gain?  What new resource could you use?  Where are my troops?!

 

DA:O did this better in the final battle with the dwarfs, elves and templars you can call in.  It wasn't perfect but it was something at least.

 

The climax of DA:I makes you feel like everything you have done in the game was all for absolutely nothing.  Whoever was responsible for that either from a story or resource POV needs to come clean and face the consequences.

[Kantr]

He doesnt have any troops either. So your rather matched.

 

Besides in ME2 you go in the one ship vs all those other ships.

[Mummy22kids]

Actually he says everyone is in the arbor wilds and tells you you'll have to wait for them to return. Which makes sense since you were just in the Arbor Wilds, with your army, trying to stop Cory. 

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Actually he says everyone is in the arbor wilds and tells you you'll have to wait for them to return. Which makes sense since you were just in the Arbor Wilds, with your army, trying to stop Cory. 

Sounds like an excuse to lazy writing, tbh. You know - what's the point in getting allies if we don't use those? Like, at all?

[mesmerizedish]

Sounds like an excuse to lazy writing, tbh. You know - what's the point in getting allies if we don't use those? Like, at all?

You do use them, to assault the Arbor Wilds.

[TurretSyndrome]

Actually he says everyone is in the arbor wilds and tells you you'll have to wait for them to return. Which makes sense since you were just in the Arbor Wilds, with your army, trying to stop Cory. 

 

Too bad our army can't use Fast Travel.

[robertthebard]

Sounds like an excuse to lazy writing, tbh. You know - what's the point in getting allies if we don't use those? Like, at all?

Somebody wasn't paying attention. I can point to three instances where you actually see your resources at work, can you?

Spoiler

1. Haven, when Cory attacks.
2. Adamant Fortress siege.
3. Arbor Wilds

[Lord Raijin]

I had more fun fighting high dragons then I did with Coryphus.

[AtreiyaN7]

No, it's not - and in case you didn't notice, you had your epic battle with your forces beating on the forces of Corypheus in the Arbor Wilds. Maybe you missed all the soldiers and all the fighting while you were there. The whole reason you're alone at the end is because it takes a while for entire armies to move. How it plays out effectively isn't any different from going to Denerim and then fighting the bloody archdemon with your party at the very end. *rolleyes*

[In Exile]

Corypheus doesn't have a major military force. You always halve his power before In Your Heart Shall Burn. The Inquisition grows substantially after that part. And his main army gambit fails in Here Lies the Abyss. Whatever forces he has left are all broken in the Arbor Wilds, which involved the combined might of Orlais and the Inquisition. He's finished.

The game also shows your power over the anchor increased. Corypheus doesn't beat you at Haven because he's strong per set - he does it because he's got a dragon with him and he stunlocked you with the orb.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

You know guys, you don't get the point. I want A ****** ARMY of my allies to do something.

 

I've got Orlais knights after Gaspar comes Emperor. Where. Is. Orlais. Army?

I've got Dalish elves after helping them. Where. Are. My. Kinnies?

I've helped those refugees (can't recall a faction) in Emerald Something. They've said they would come... Yeah, maybe they would. But. Quizzy. Didn't. Call.

 

And so on!

 

We do a lot of quests and favor a lot of factions, but every single thing out there is separated. You know, you get exact same cutscenes if you don't do anything but the main quest chain, do you know it, folks? So I ask you again, what's the reason to help all those people?

Maybe they should die to make room for others who will actually help me and march by my side?

[JimBlandings]

No, it's not - and in case you didn't notice, you had your epic battle with your forces beating on the forces of Corypheus in the Arbor Wilds. Maybe you missed all the soldiers and all the fighting while you were there. The whole reason you're alone at the end is because it takes a while for entire armies to move. How it plays out effectively isn't any different from going to Denerim and then fighting the bloody archdemon with your party at the very end. *rolleyes*

 

Er, you can still call on your allies when you fight the archdemon.

[Rawgrim]

Too bad our army can't use Fast Travel.

 

Those horses we had to get for the army might have been handy.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Those horses we had to get for the army might have been handy.

Nah that Corifeus thing was so urgent that I had all the time in world to beat Hissing Wastes... After the temple, bur before opposing Cory.

[TurretSyndrome]

Those horses we had to get for the army might have been handy.

 

Cut content.

[Merlik]

The moment you are talking about came before that, everyone gathered to attack him at the elven ruins. 

[Rawgrim]

Nah that Corifeus thing was so urgent that I had all the time in world to beat Hissing Wastes... After the temple, bur before opposing Cory.

 

It would have felt more urgent if Cory had actually fought back during the game. I felt more like a bully than a hero in this game. Attacking someone who refuses to fight back.

[Rawgrim]

Cut content.

 

You mean like the horses were geldings?

[Melca36]

No, it's not - and in case you didn't notice, you had your epic battle with your forces beating on the forces of Corypheus in the Arbor Wilds. Maybe you missed all the soldiers and all the fighting while you were there. The whole reason you're alone at the end is because it takes a while for entire armies to move. How it plays out effectively isn't any different from going to Denerim and then fighting the bloody archdemon with your party at the very end. *rolleyes*

 

Yep. Love how people miss the point

[Melca36]

SPOILERS AHEAD OBVIOUSLY

 

 

So the player spends anywhere between 30-100 hours building up the Inquisition to fight in the epic battle to save all mankind...

 

This is the idea of the game.  This is what is being used to advertise it.

 

But then at the end of the game Cullen tells you they aren't ready yet and you are left to fight the badguy on your own.

 

W

 

T

 

F

 

Okay, ME2 may have been a completely illogical waste of time and space in story terms but at least that didn't end with you after having spent 30 hours recruiting your team to just jolly off and fight the collectors on your own.

 

And the ending of ME3 may have sucked the stinky rectum of a skunk but AT LEAST they showed the forces you built for your final battle engaging in battle even if its effect was as shallow as a kiddie pool.

 

What makes matters worse if that Cullen told us before that his troops were coming along nicely and would be ready to fight.

 

What happened?

 

All that is left is an anti-climatic, dull fight with one boss that lasted about ten minutes never once put me in any danger of dying.  What was the difference between fighting him and any other "boss" in the early stages of the game when the Inquisition wasn't built?  What advantages did you gain?  What new resource could you use?  Where are my troops?!

 

DA:O did this better in the final battle with the dwarfs, elves and templars you can call in.  It wasn't perfect but it was something at least.

 

The climax of DA:I makes you feel like everything you have done in the game was all for absolutely nothing.  Whoever was responsible for that either from a story or resource POV needs to come clean and face the consequences.

 

 

You completely miss the entire point of the whole game.  The game is called Dragon Age Inquisition for a reason and not Dragon Age the Battle Against Corypheus.

 

The whole point of the game was fixing the chaos and corruption that was going on in Thedas. Thats the whole point of Inquisition.

 

And given what we heard about the Wardens splitting off into two sects...we could be dealing with that in a DLC.

[Rawgrim]

You completely miss the entire point of the whole game.  The game is called Dragon Age Inquisition for a reason and not Dragon Age the Battle Against Corypheus.

 

The whole point of the game was fixing the chaos and corruption that was going on in Thedas. Thats the whole point of Inquisition.

 

And given what we heard about the Wardens splitting off into two sects...we could be dealing with that in a DLC.

 

You mean the inquisition that was created to stop the stuff Cory had set in motion? The Very Inquisition that utterly focuses on picking Cory's plans apart?

 

Quite right. It is not vs Cory at all.

[JimBlandings]

The moment you are talking about came before that, everyone gathered to attack him at the elven ruins. 

 

That's great.  I'm surprised more armies don't use this amazing tactic.  For instance, after reclaiming France the allies should have just sat on their asses instead of taking Germany.

[JimBlandings]

You completely miss the entire point of the whole game.  The game is called Dragon Age Inquisition for a reason and not Dragon Age the Battle Against Corypheus.

 

The whole point of the game was fixing the chaos and corruption that was going on in Thedas. Thats the whole point of Inquisition.

 

And given what we heard about the Wardens splitting off into two sects...we could be dealing with that in a DLC.

 

Well you might be dealing with that in a DLC but personally I'm not stupid enough to spend another penny on this pos.

[ComedicSociopathy]

[AtreiyaN7]

Er, you can still call on your allies when you fight the archdemon.

 

And does it actually look like you have a giant army with you when you do that while you're fighting the archdemon, specifically? Not really - you get a couple of people at a time, and frankly, it never struck me as being anything that qualified as particularly epic or impressive (fun, sure, but not all that meaningful - kind of like what happens in the big finale of Wasteland 2...yeah, those extra forces that really helped my Rangers by getting themselves killed while I futilely tried to babysit them).

 

It sounds like you were expecting some kind of giant WWII-esque battle scene a la storming the beaches of Normandy. At any rate, I'll quote what you said earlier below:

 

JimBlandings: "And the ending of ME3 may have sucked the stinky rectum of a skunk but AT LEAST they showed the forces you built for your final battle engaging in battle even if its effect was as shallow as a kiddie pool."'

 

*points up at your quoted text*

*points at the Arbor Wilds again*

*points at the fact that the Arbor Wilds AND the fight with Corypheus amount to the finale of the game and that, again, this is basically equivalent to what happens in Denerim*