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[German Soldier]

Personally I'm glad it came to nothing. As a Mother, I find the whole thing completely distasteful, and can't imagine using a Child to gain something......especially something I know very little/nothing about.
Morrigan is and always will be a power hungry fool.....her reaction after she's drank from the Well, if she doesn't have a Child, proves this. She's positively drunk on her new found power.

agree with your whole post which was fantastic.

Solas is powerful too,but he didn't research power without a goal which imo doesn't make sense,same with Flemeth.

SOlas will gladly sacrifice his life and his power to succeed in his plan,same with Flemeth who sacrificed her power in favor of Solas

Morrigan want power yes,but as FLemeth asked to her to what end? just for the sake of it?

Often if not always, she even avoid to take precautions,like with the well of sorrow

[phishface]

The way it seems to be going is a bunch of gods consuming each other. Mythal absorbs Urthemiel. Then Solas absorbs Mythal +Urthemiel. Then maybe someone will absorb Solas, or he'll keep absorbing other bits of gods.Then eventually we get Galactus. Or something.

[Ieldra]

Well.....it seems the DR *did* have bad consequences. VERY bad consequences....

 

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[robertthebard]

That explains a lot, actually.

[Anaeme]

Folks Solas is Solas...he did not absorb Mythal.

 

Mythal was pushed through the eluvian by Flemeth

 

Solas did not want anything to do with the well of sorrows or mythal's soul

 

He even states in trespasser that he is himself period...

 

I cant understand why people see the obvious and keep confusing themselves

[guigaccess]

That is the problem with leaving such important points up to the player to decide.

 

The fact the player can opt for OGB!Kieran to never happen means that it can never become the big issue it should be. And that sucks, because when you allow it to exist in your game, it simply has to become an important issue.

 

The same goes for the Architect. If you allow him to live, he has to become a big issue eventually... but he never did and that's frustrating. And he never will, because you have the option of killing him, so they can't make him a center point in the following games since it will not be accommodate in the playthroughs that had him killed (unless BW goes again the terrible way of completely ignoring your choices by saying "you thought you killed him, but he survived").

[In Exile]

That is the problem with leaving such important points up to the player to decide.

 

The fact the player can opt for OGB!Kieran to never happen means that it can never become the big issue it should be. What sucks, because when you allow it to exist in your game, it simply has to become an important issue.

 

The same goes for the Architect. If you allow him to live, he has to become a big issue eventually... but he never did and that's frustrating. And he never will, because you have the option of killing him, so they can't make him a center point in the following games since it will not be accommodate in the playthroughs that had him killed (unless BW goes again the terrible way of completely ignoring your choices by saying "you thought you killed him, but he survived").

 

It's not a "terrible way". I mean, we straight up see that Corypheus is immortal, and the Architect is obviously the same kind of being. His not being dead is about the only return from the dead in the setting that's totally justified, and it would be strange if he weren't still alive. 

[Former_Fiend]

I'd just like to say that as someone who argued very passionately that the OGB amount to something significant in playthroughs where he existed, I was perfectly satisfied with the result. 

[Bio Addict]

I'd just like to say that as someone who argued very passionately that the OGB amount to something significant in playthroughs where he existed, I was perfectly satisfied with the result. 

I second this, maybe in a perfect world it would've altered a play through in a more dramatic fashion but I'm satisfied with what we got.  Just getting to meet Keiran felt like a reward and that scene where you and Morrigan are frantically looking for her lost child in the Fade is really tense.  Plus I experienced it all knowing that it was stuff most people who played the game would never see as the default Warden committed the Ultimate Sacrifice.

[German Soldier]

Well.....it seems the DR *did* have bad consequences. VERY bad consequences....

 

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Too bad that i suffered the star child in Mass effect 3 regardless of what i did in DAO

[Secret Rare]

That is the problem with leaving such important points up to the player to decide.

 

The fact the player can opt for OGB!Kieran to never happen means that it can never become the big issue it should be. And that sucks, because when you allow it to exist in your game, it simply has to become an important issue.

 

The same goes for the Architect. If you allow him to live, he has to become a big issue eventually... but he never did and that's frustrating. And he never will, because you have the option of killing him, so they can't make him a center point in the following games since it will not be accommodate in the playthroughs that had him killed (unless BW goes again the terrible way of completely ignoring your choices by saying "you thought you killed him, but he survived").

He is a magister and writers can easily find a way to resurrect him like they did with Corypheus,in fact their original idea was to have two villain for DAI both Corypheus and the Architect who would have ben introduced in the here lyes the abyss.

 

It's not a "terrible way". I mean, we straight up see that Corypheus is immortal, and the Architect is obviously the same kind of being. His not being dead is about the only return from the dead in the setting that's totally justified, and it would be strange if he weren't still alive. 

he do not possess the same ability of corypheus so it is possible that he was killed by the warden.

[Rekkampum]

It was dark because it had an unknown outcome, and appeared somewhat fishy to an unbiased observer. It also had the potential to end badly for the child, in spite of Morrigan's reassurances, which made it potentially evil. That nothing bad came of it does not invalidate the impression it made at the time you were asked to enact it.

 

Not to forget a baby is being born with the soul of an ageless daemon inside of it. That's creepy on its own merit.

[diaspora2k5]

He is a magister and writers can easily find a way to resurrect him like they did with Corypheus,in fact their original idea was to have two villain for DAI both Corypheus and the Architect who would have ben introduced in the here lyes the abyss.

 

he do not possess the same ability of corypheus so it is possible that he was killed by the warden.

They're confirmed to being the same type of creature, so yes, he is almost guaranteed to be immortal.

[sunnydxmen]

I love it it makes sense now the old god soul can be given to any race including qunari to be a hero it will give them power like inquisitior mark. side note i dont think there going to do much with it since its optional cant set in entire game on a what if.

[Aren]

They're confirmed to being the same type of creature, so yes, he is almost guaranteed to be immortal.

They are the same type of creature,in the sense that both get infected into the black city.

The fact that i will not dismiss is that the Architect got killed by a Warden and we don't know if is the same thing,tainted creature killed by a Warden do not reborn,Corypheus never got killed by a Warden he just used their body for resurrection or his calling to deny to them the possibility to be attacked.

In short we don't know what kind of ability the GW have,it can be likely that each tainted creature killed by them stay dead.

Same creature but different ability,however the resurrection can be something of whom The Architect is capable,as Weekes idea was to reuse him in DAI.

[robertthebard]

They are the same type of creature,in the sense that both get infected into the black city.
The fact that i will not dismiss is that the Architect got killed by a Warden and we don't know if is the same thing,tainted creature killed by a Warden do not reborn,Corypheus never got killed by a Warden he just used their body for resurrection or his calling to deny to them the possibility to be attacked.
In short we don't know what kind of ability the GW have,it can be likely that each tainted creature killed by them stay dead.
Same creature but different ability,however the resurrection can be something of whom The Architect is capable,as Weekes idea was to reuse him in DAI.

While I'd like to think that the Architect is dead, there was no DR performed before that fight, so if getting killed by a Warden is what made it final, the Warden would have to die too, if we're assuming it's the same as an archdemon.

[Ieldra]

Not to forget a baby is being born with the soul of an ageless daemon inside of it. That's creepy on its own merit.

That's what I meant with "could possibly end badly for the child". We don't know, though, if the term you used to describe the Old God is in any way correct.

[Heimdall]

 

They are the same type of creature,in the sense that both get infected into the black city.

The fact that i will not dismiss is that the Architect got killed by a Warden and we don't know if is the same thing,tainted creature killed by a Warden do not reborn,Corypheus never got killed by a Warden he just used their body for resurrection or his calling to deny to them the possibility to be attacked.

In short we don't know what kind of ability the GW have,it can be likely that each tainted creature killed by them stay dead.

Same creature but different ability,however the resurrection can be something of whom The Architect is capable,as Weekes idea was to reuse him in DAI.

 

The only reason getting killed by a warden is special is that they then become the closest tainted being to the slain.  The only creatures that have proven susceptible to this are Archdemons, normal darkspawn don't require special means to kill.  Corypheus proved able to manipulate Wardens through the Taint and has no problem using the taint in their blood to recreate himself.  An Archdemon can do none of these things.  Corypheus and his ilk are clearly not bound by the same rules as Archdemons, it's presumptive to assume they would have the same vulnerability when they clearly have more influence over the Grey Warden taint than the Archdemon.

 

We don't know that Corypheus and the Architect have different abilities.  It stands to reason they probably do.

[Aren]

The only reason getting killed by a warden is special is that they then become the closest tainted being to the slain.  The only creatures that have proven susceptible to this are Archdemons, normal darkspawn don't require special means to kill.  Corypheus proved able to manipulate Wardens through the Taint and has no problem using the taint in their blood to recreate himself.  An Archdemon can do none of these things.  Corypheus and his ilk are clearly not bound by the same rules as Archdemons, it's presumptive to assume they would have the same vulnerability when they clearly have more influence over the Grey Warden taint than the Archdemon.

 

We don't know that Corypheus and the Architect have different abilities.  It stands to reason they probably do.

The Architect didn't jumped into the warden commander,if that was possible for him it would have been an easy victory,also he would have destroyed the mother without no problem by reshape her body

Also as i have come to understand COrypheus cannot jump into those who aren't in his control,he force their will with the calling or with blood magic,then he body jump,he do not force the will of the host.i neve saw Corypheus body jump to someone who was not yet under his control,this is i believe the weakness of his ability,same with the Archdemon those who are not in his control cannot be used.

Janeka and Larius were already under his influence.

[Rekkampum]

His name is Kieran, not OGB!

[ModernAcademic]

That is the problem with leaving such important points up to the player to decide.

 

The fact the player can opt for OGB!Kieran to never happen means that it can never become the big issue it should be. And that sucks, because when you allow it to exist in your game, it simply has to become an important issue.

 

The same goes for the Architect. If you allow him to live, he has to become a big issue eventually... but he never did and that's frustrating. And he never will, because you have the option of killing him, so they can't make him a center point in the following games since it will not be accommodate in the playthroughs that had him killed (unless BW goes again the terrible way of completely ignoring your choices by saying "you thought you killed him, but he survived").

 

Many players like myself who liked characters like the Architect were frustrated because your choice seems to matter, but later on it turns out he was just making a one-time appearance.

Why does BW bother even creating a tile for him in the DA Keep, or for any other small decision anyway? 

[Nixou]

Why does BW bother even creating a tile for him in the DA Keep, or for any other small decision anyway? 

 

 

So they can tap into the data stored in the keep in case they decide to bring back the Disciples

[9TailsFox]

His name is Kieran, not OGB!

Actually it Urthemiel not Kieran.

[Ieldra]

Actually it Urthemiel not Kieran.

It isn't. This isn't a reborn god, but a human with a magical aspect added. There is no single piece of evidence that Kieran carries Urthemiel's will.

[Aren]

His name is Kieran, not OGB!

It doesn't really matter if do not exsist (like in my game) he has no name,so ogb is good too.