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[Lewie]

If the Witcher 3 is such an amazing game, why are people on here talking about it? It has no replay value? Start, finish, game done. Huh. 

 

SHITE?

[KaiserShep]

DA:I is Twilight of videogames. So mature. Do you need an explanation? 

 

I actually had to endure a Twilight movie for sake of a loved one's birthday once, and I don't recall ever feeling like my small intestine was trying to wrap around my liver and crush it into a diamond during any part of Inquisition like it did for that movie.

[atlantico]

The DAI controls are a work of art compared to the TW2 controls and UI. I love the game. But that UI sucks hard.

 

I have never played TW2, only TW1. 

 

Guess I have something to look forward to... hey on the bright side, I may look back on DA:I with rose-colored nostalgia, if I ever find the time to play TW2, wishing for the happy days of dealing with the wonderful DA:I UI

[In Exile]

I have never played TW2, only TW1.

Guess I have something to look forward to... hey on the bright side, I may look back on DA:I with rose-colored nostalgia, if I ever find the time to play TW2, wishing for the happy days of dealing with the wonderful DA:I UI

You absolutely will. At least IMO. Just the way games save is insanely frustrating. Each auto save or quick save creates a new slot. There's no overwriting that I've been able to find.

[o Ventus]

I already did, but you never read post I guess. Mature is serious, like when someone dies, that's a divergence in the story. It is permanent. Not Gaider's "when someone dies, that doesn't mean they're dead".

 

"durr, they don't stay dead!" is not a reason.

 

I remember when Wynne came back after she died. Or Shale, after I sided with Branka. Or Loghain, after I executed him.

 

I always love how people take one singular, isolated occurrence of something and try to pass it off as a trend and use it ammunition later to represent something they don't like, completely and totally ignoring that it is indeed NOT a trend.

 

"Well, this one person came back, so it's a recurring thing now despite happening literally once in the franchise's 5 year history."

 

 

Confirmation bias is seeing what you want to see, even when it isn't there.

 

The irony in this is even more painful than the last. How you don't see it, I don't understand.

 

 

Like seeing a thread full of "cdprojectred wackos", when it's just normal people who aren't fanbois of anyone.

 

Your responses below:

 

The lead writer of this game considers character deaths to be a triviality, easily remedied by retconning, so I wouldn't hold my breath for "tough" decisions. 

 

No decision you make is final, even when you decide to kill someone. So sayeth the lead writer.

 

 

DA:I is just a straight white dude banging women and clunky controls. basically a dudebro game for gamergate audience

 

Because as we can see, these are things "normal people" say. It's patently clear that you aren't mindlessly criticizing DAI, and are indeed pointing out legitimate flaws with the game, as shown by your "easily remedied by retconning" and your "correction" to someone slandering TW2. Because someone who is not a fanboy must feel the need to white knight their obviously favored series by "fixing" someone else's post to misrepresent (and in this case, completely falsify) the game they dislike. If you aren't a fanboy, you're going very far out of your way to look like one.

[luism]

I'm a recovering da fan but the witcher series isn't my cup of tea. I agree with the witcher fans on some of their points but the game doesn't do anything for me even with all the boobs.

[Giantdeathrobot]

I hope the story of TW3 is good, because as much as I liked the second game it sure as hell wasn't thanks to its dull combat. I cannot for the life of me understand how people think Dragon Age's combat is repetitive, than praise TW as an example. Attack attack dodge attack attack dodge ad nauseum. Maybe use Quen or Igni from time to time, or a grenade the 4-5 times in the entire game that there are enough enemies to warrant it. That's until you get to the end of a skill tree and get super-moves that one-shot the entire fight for you, that is. Give me Dragon Age's party-based combat before that any day of the week.

 

With that being said, I wish people would knock it off with the ''Witcher rules!'' vs '''Witcher drools!'' back and forth. Let people like what they like, cripes, it's possible to like both series. So far TW3's story and setting look pretty great, and visually the game is gorgeous. 

[stop_him]

"Mature"

 

LOL.

[Quaddis]

So, regarding writing in Witcher 3....

http://www.rockpaper...on/#more-265487


I... kinda wish I'd see the faces of people who were complaining about BW shoving teh gay that has no place in medieval RPGs down their throats and won't you look how CDP doesn't do any of this bullshit... when they run into this :s

 

Actually it all depends how it is done, Dorian is well done, he is my Inquisitors best bud, always dragging him around, Krem on the other hand is just showing you social justice down the throat.

[MissDragon]

The Witcher 3 devs said they have focused more on an open world with lots of quests. Seems Skyrim has caught the imagination of developers yet again.

[TurretSyndrome]

I don't know about mature story telling, personally W2 didn't feel anymore "mature" than DA games to me. I always thought people were blowing that out of proportion for that game.

 

However, I am looking forward to unrestrained storytelling from the writers where they don't focus all their efforts into being inclusive and politically correct. I know that the majority of the people that hate the Witcher is because of those very reasons and I love the game and the CDProjektRed for that. May CD Projekt Red thrive on the tears of those that would see it burned to the ground.

 

 

...Witcher....what is first thing that comes to my mind when I think about it?Hmmm....

Spoiler

Yup very mature...enough said 

 

 

Witcher-hating Bio-Hassrath: *Sees Dragon Age character naked* Hmm... yes very tasteful... very artful, well done Bioware.

 

*Sees Triss naked* Ugh disgusting. What is this, made for a white hetero teen to masturbate to? Boo CD Projekt Red for objectifying women and not being inclusive, Boo!

[Lebanese Dude]

 

 

Witcher-hating Bio-Hassrath: *Sees Dragon Age character naked* Hmm... yes very tasteful... very artful, well done Bioware.

 

*Sees Triss naked* Ugh disgusting. What is this, made for a white hetero teen to masturbate to? Boo CD Projekt Red for objectifying women and not being inclusive, Boo!

Your awareness does you credit

[TurretSyndrome]

Your awareness does you credit

 

You need very little of that to spot the painfully obvious double standards of people here I'm afraid. 

[Kallas_br123]

I made a post about what is realism in the medieval world. Everyone seems to link every fantasy game with the dark ages, or medieval western europe. There it was dirty, and poor, and violent, but that's a small fraction of history too.

The roman empire had plumbing more advanced then Chicago in 1890. Bath houses. Fresh water. A stable governing system that lasted all the way through the 10th century AD. (The Byzantine empire is the late roman empire. Rome didn't fall when some folk say it did.)

 

Look at the game a little closer....is it really modeled after the era of the crusades after the fall of the greatest human empire?

The thing about the Dragon age world is. Its vastly rich, and very advanced. This world is in a golden era of development, and appears quite advanced to me. They know of medicines, and herbs. They pride costumes and apparal. They aren't fighting over food or resources, but instead playing very intense games of politics.

 

This era more closely represents the late roman empire AKA the byzantines more then anything else, and so it wouldn't be a dirty filthy poor place at all, and it'd still be perfectly historically accurate. Not that there isn't dirt filth and poverty, but its the same way in modern society too.

true, but maybe the point I want to make is that DAI is more sanitary, than the previous games, even if the world of dragon age is in a more advanced era historic, (a mixture of the Renaissance with Roma and classical greece) even in these ages humanity has never been kind, we always were violent and depraved, and DAI, biowere, exploited this fact, far less than in previous games. At least for me the game got with a feeling of PG13.

 

DAI has become more politically correct, perhaps in an effort to attract more players?

 

And before someone attacks me, I love dragon age, I played DAO and DA2 dozens of times more than TW.

[Kallas_br123]

Your awareness does you credit

Sometimes people forget that game companies and developers is not obliged to be inclusive, they only have the obligation to make money.

 

And as a fellow mecionou above, the witcher is inspired by a different era, in a place that would poland or something similar, which inclusion people expect there in place like this?

[pawswithclaws]

However, I am looking forward to unrestrained storytelling from the writers where they don't focus all their efforts into being inclusive and politically correct. I know that the majority of the people that hate the Witcher is because of those very reasons and I love the game and the CDProjektRed for that. May CD Projekt Red thrive on the tears of those that would see it burned to the ground.

Really? The Majority? It must be because the story isn't politically correct, it can't simply be because it's not their type of story/characters?

[TurretSyndrome]

 

Sometimes people forget that game companies and developers is not obliged to be inclusive, they only have the obligation to make money.

 

Sometimes is an understatement. These days being inclusive is an obligation to some people. What I like about CD Projekt Red is that they don't want to make statements, just want to craft as best a game as they could while also listening to their fan feedback. They don't alter their lore and universe to fit in a character in the game just so they can satisfy a minority gaming group's demands.

 

 

Really? The Majority? It must be because the story isn't politically correct, it can't simply be because it's not their type of story/characters?

 

Yes, really. What's there to outright HATE a company and all their works because the gamers are not interested in the story and characters of the game? That's just absurd. 

[Suledin]

It's funny how the thread's title can tell you everything about the person who has made it. 

Mature storytelling and Witcher? A guy with white hair who bangs women he meets in the woods and kills monsters. 

[Lebanese Dude]

You need very little of that to spot the painfully obvious double standards of people here I'm afraid. 

 

 

Sometimes people forget that game companies and developers is not obliged to be inclusive, they only have the obligation to make money.

 

And as a fellow mecionou above, the witcher is inspired by a different era, in a place that would poland or something similar, which inclusion people expect there in place like this?

 

 

I was just messing.

 

I have nothing against the Witcher and I hope CDPR continues to be successful, despite its narrow target audience.

 

What bothers me is  how some people attempt to use BioWare's inclusiveness as a negative point against their games.

TW isn't better than DA in any shared characteristic, and they each do their own thing pretty well.

[rekkaman]

Ugh people give it a break. Can't people like both series instead of bashing each other and comparing if Bioware or CDPR has the longer penis...

yeah they can and some people can not like the witcher and love bioware games and want to discuss said games on bioware forums that are not offtopic or troll threads

[pawswithclaws]

Yes, really. What's there to outright HATE a company and all their works because the gamers are not interested in the story and characters of the game? That's just absurd. 

Anyone who insist that they have a burning, raging hate for any game is in need of some serious counselling, no matter what the game or developer. I assume when anyone on BSN say 'hate' they mean 'dislike', because that's how it's usually used around here.

[Sidney]

Never found the Witcher's content more mature. More explicit in places yes but not more mature. That is the difference between Psycho and Saw.

 

Biggest problem with TW2 though was that bastage offspring of Assassin's Creed and Arkham Asylum combat it had. People want to gripe about action RPG well, there it is.

[TurretSyndrome]

Anyone who insist that they have a burning, raging hate for any game is in need of some serious counselling, no matter what the game or developer. I assume when anyone on BSN say 'hate' they mean 'dislike', because that's how it's usually used around here.

 

We agree on that then. As for hate meaning dislike, It might be the case. I wasn't including people who are uninterested or dislike whatever parts of the game they do for whatever reasons. I was specifically speaking of the ones that like to do nothing else than insult the developers and their fanbase simply because the game doesn't pander to their likes.

[pawswithclaws]

We agree on that then. As for hate meaning dislike, It might be the case. I wasn't including people who are uninterested or dislike whatever parts of the game they do for whatever reasons. I was specifically speaking of the ones that like to do nothing else than insult the developers and their fanbase simply because the game doesn't pander to their likes.

To be fair though, there is an equal amount of this from both sides, both Witcher and DA fans. Not to mention the poor souls who get left out in the cold just because they happen to enjoy both series. My biggest gripe with the Witcher is that I don't enjoy the game or the characters, and don't really want it as some kind of baseline as how future DA games should be. I much prefer it to be two distinct series going their own way and not 'copying' each other, that way more people has something they can enjoy.

[Sanunes]

I hope the story of TW3 is good, because as much as I liked the second game it sure as hell wasn't thanks to its dull combat. I cannot for the life of me understand how people think Dragon Age's combat is repetitive, than praise TW as an example. Attack attack dodge attack attack dodge ad nauseum. Maybe use Quen or Igni from time to time, or a grenade the 4-5 times in the entire game that there are enough enemies to warrant it. That's until you get to the end of a skill tree and get super-moves that one-shot the entire fight for you, that is. Give me Dragon Age's party-based combat before that any day of the week.

 

With that being said, I wish people would knock it off with the ''Witcher rules!'' vs '''Witcher drools!'' back and forth. Let people like what they like, cripes, it's possible to like both series. So far TW3's story and setting look pretty great, and visually the game is gorgeous. 

 

I agree, for to me aside from being set in a medieval setting the games really don't share a lot of similarities for me and The Witcher games have frustrations for people just like the Dragon Age games do.