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[AutumnWitch]

(romance thread be warned)

 

This has been bothering me for a while now.

 

I play as female very pro-Dalish Elf who happens to be gay.

 

As far as romance goes I like both Sera and Josie and for this thread I will even throw in Solas.

 

Now if I play a real pro-Dalish female none of these are actually a real possibility long term and if you know the Dalish they are a "for life" group when it comes to love.

 

First as much as I like Josie personally, my Dalish elf has no future with her. I don't see Josie giving up her career and family to come live in the forest with the Dalish (not that she would be allowed to BTW) but even if she did, I would not ask that of her. So I would pretty much have to give up my whole life and become a "city elf". 

 

Second, Sera..well I like her too be lets be honest do any of us see her frolicking  around the forest and living the life of the Dalish? Yea we all know that isn't going to happen so again, my Inquisitor would have to give up her life with the Dalish.

 

And even if she was open to romancing Solas, well we all know how that ends, but even if we ignore the ending, the man asks her to basically give up her whole identity as a Dalish. Even if the Dalish are millions of miles from what the old Elves were, they are now their own people with their own customs and traditions. Asking her to turn her back on all of  that is just cruel and no way would my Inquisitor do it.

 

So why do we not have ANY option for a LTR that does not require a pro-Dalish to give up who she is to find happiness?

 

Makes me a really sad because the romances are one of my fav things about DA games and I was so excited about being able to play as Dalish in this game but really I have to play as a Dalish who pretty much has to sacrifice being Dalish to find love. Screw that noise..my Inquisitor will find a nice Dalish girl and settle down after everything gets all settled.

 

Don't get me wrong I really love DAI I just wish the above wasn't so.

[Br3admax]

Because BioWare has made it their MO to make us think the Dalish are Sin incarnate? This now the third game where they've been shown to be bassackwards. It's like asking why Tevinter Dorian must make compromise. 

[AresKeith]

Because BioWare has made it their MO to make us think the Dalish are Sin incarnate? This now the third game where they've been shown to be bassackwards. It's like asking why Tevinter Dorian must make compromise. 

 

The Dalish already did that themselves

[katerinafm]

They can't have LIs for every single type of character we come up with mate. You can romance no one and headcanon that they found someone outside the romance options. I mean, if you want to complain, what about the dwarves that haven't had a dwarf romance option in three games? Not complaining, I'm just saying that they can't put a million variables.

[AutumnWitch]

They can't have LIs for every single type of character we come up with mate. You can romance no one and headcanon that they found someone outside the romance options. I mean, if you want to complain, what about the dwarves that haven't had a dwarf romance option in three games? Not complaining, I'm just saying that they can't put a million variables.

 

I agree but how hard would it have been to make Sera a little more open to another Elf? She practically jumps all over a Qunari LI at first sight but playing as Elf its like pulling freaking teeth.

[Gervaise]

I rather think that once you take the job of Inquisitor you can sort of say goodbye to your Dalish life.   I've been asking over on another thread what happens if you don't want to be Inquisitor any more now the main threat is past and things are settling back to normal.

 

Still if you think your gay Dalish girl has got it hard, pity the poor Dalish lad; he doesn't even get the option of an elven romance, so he really has to leave behind everything.   Making Skyhold look as Dalish as possible is small consolation for the loss of the clan (even if they aren't wiped out it is clear you are not going back).   A

 

After Solas walked out on my girl, I decided that eventually she'd find consolation with that nice Dalish lad, Loreniel (I think I got it right) who had been so keen to join us.     I played my male Dalish as gay, to account for why he hadn't already got a girl back in the clan, so he's been ignoring the fact that Dorian is Tevinter and romancing him but whilst I haven't got to the end with him yet, I gather he may well also ultimately be left to face life alone, but since Solas is clearly up to something that will no doubt involve the elves, may be it is just as well that elven Inquisitors are not attached since I am convinced that the writers have something nasty planned for the Dalish next time round. 

[AresKeith]

I agree but how hard would it have been to make Sera a little more open to another Elf? She practically jumps all over a Qunari LI at first sight but playing as Elf its like pulling freaking teeth.

 

She is open to another elf, as long as they aren't too "elfy" 

[RobRam10]

I agree but how hard would it have been to make Sera a little more open to another Elf? She practically jumps all over a Qunari LI at first sight but playing as Elf its like pulling freaking teeth.

Because Sera loathes muh elven oppression, muh lost glory which is what a Dalish Inquisitor represents.

[Prince of Keys]

And even if she was open to romancing Solas, well we all know how that ends, but even if we ignore the ending, the man asks her to basically give up her whole identity as a Dalish. Even if the Dalish are millions of miles from what the old Elves were, they are now their own people with their own customs and traditions. Asking her to turn her back on all of  that is just cruel and no way would my Inquisitor do it.

 

Are you referring to the vallaslin thing? Because all he does is give Lavellan the ability to make an informed decision about it... after learning the truth, it's completely up to her whether or not to remove it (and Solas is 100% okay with it either way).

[Steelcan]

because Sera is a petulant child

[ComedicSociopathy]

This only matters if your Dalish plans to return to her clan, which is unlikely to happen canonically since it looks the Inquisitor isn't abandoning the Inquisition any time soon. 

[Illyria]

Solas doesn't make Lavellan give up anything.

 

Spoiler

He offers to remove her vallaslin due to what he knows they really mean. But he also respects her choice to keep them if she wants to. You even get the option to tell him that, whatever they meant in the past, the Dalish have reclaimed the markings.

[AutumnWitch]

I rather think that once you take the job of Inquisitor you can sort of say goodbye to your Dalish life.   I've been asking over on another thread what happens if you don't want to be Inquisitor any more now the main threat is past and things are settling back to normal.

 

Still if you think your gay Dalish girl has got it hard, pity the poor Dalish lad; he doesn't even get the option of an elven romance, so he really has to leave behind everything.   Making Skyhold look as Dalish as possible is small consolation for the loss of the clan (even if they aren't wiped out it is clear you are not going back).   A

 

After Solas walked out on my girl, I decided that eventually she'd find consolation with that nice Dalish lad, Loreniel (I think I got it right) who had been so keen to join us.     I played my male Dalish as gay, to account for why he hadn't already got a girl back in the clan, so he's been ignoring the fact that Dorian is Tevinter and romancing him but whilst I haven't got to the end with him yet, I gather he may well also ultimately be left to face life alone, but since Solas is clearly up to something that will not doubt involve the elves, may be it is just as well that elven Inquisitors are not attached since I am convinced that the writers have something nasty planned for the Dalish next time round. 

 

 

yea I feel for the male str8 Dalish as well. My OP applies to them as well.

 

But I disagree, I think she can go back home (as I always save her tribe) because  as horrible as it sounds as soon as the main bad threats are all sorted the human nobility will do what ever they can to kick a Dalish Inquisitor to the curb.

[ravenesse]

I can't picture any LI in Inquisition that would give their lives up to frollic in the woods. Not gay, not straight, not bi, not pan. And even if one or two might make that compromise, I don't believe the Lavellan clan would be happy about that.
So... sorrows for all the elves, in my opinion.

[jellobell]

And even if she was open to romancing Solas, well we all know how that ends, but even if we ignore the ending, the man asks her to basically give up her whole identity as a Dalish. Even if the Dalish are millions of miles from what the old Elves were, they are now their own people with their own customs and traditions. Asking her to turn her back on all of  that is just cruel and no way would my Inquisitor do it.

Bwuh? How d'you figure? Solas certainly starts out by not having the highest opinion of the Dalish, but as you become closer he admits that he has probably misjudged them. And he never asks you to give up your identity. He gives you the choice to remove your vallaslin after he tells you their original meaning, but you're given a really lovely dialogue option where you can refuse because they're a part of your identity. And he accepts this, because the choice is yours to make, and tells you that you're perfect the way you are. All he wants is for the Inquisitor to keep an open mind, not for them to abandon their family or traditions. He never pressures you to remove the vallaslin. He simply gives you the choice, and loves and accepts the Inquisitor regardless of the choice they make.

[BobZilla84]

They can't have LIs for every single type of character we come up with mate. You can romance no one and headcanon that they found someone outside the romance options. I mean, if you want to complain, what about the dwarves that haven't had a dwarf romance option in three games? Not complaining, I'm just saying that they can't put a million variables.

Yeah we Dwarf players havent had a Dwarf LI at all.
OP I feel your annoyance though my Dwarf doesnt fit with any of the options so I am headcannoning he ends up getting with Dagna.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Bwuh? How d'you figure? Solas certainly starts out by not having the highest opinion of the Dalish, but as you become closer he admits that he has probably misjudged them. And he never asks you to give up your identity. He gives you the choice to remove your vallaslin after he tells you their original meaning, but you're given a really lovely dialogue option where you can refuse because they're a part of your identity. And he accepts this, because the choice is yours to make, and tells you that you're perfect the way you are. All he wants is for the Inquisitor to keep an open mind, not for them to abandon their family or traditions. He never pressures you to remove the vallaslin. He simply gives you the choice, and loves and accepts the Inquisitor regardless of the choice they make.

 

And then he dumps you immediately regardless. 

 

The man is a master of the DENNIS system. 

 

[AshesEleven]

I agree but how hard would it have been to make Sera a little more open to another Elf? She practically jumps all over a Qunari LI at first sight but playing as Elf its like pulling freaking teeth.

 

Because that's against her character.  

[katerinafm]

I agree but how hard would it have been to make Sera a little more open to another Elf? She practically jumps all over a Qunari LI at first sight but playing as Elf its like pulling freaking teeth.

 

Because it's part of her character? Her whole thing is that she doesn't like how most dalish elves pretend they're better than everyone else because that includes the 'little people'.

[Master Warder Z_]

The Dalish already did that themselves

 

You stole my line!

[Br3admax]

And then he dumps you immediately regardless. 

 

The man is a master of the DENNIS system. 

 

Can't hate on Solas for having Game. 

[Serza]

Lavellan's life with the Dalish is pretty much over anyway. The only way she (ok, he...) would be able to return back to the clan and keep on living the same way is if the Conclave didn't go and end up in a big bada boom.

 

Also, Sera's world's gonna pretty much fall apart if the Maker isn't real. If Andraste isn't real. The religion claims there is place for everyone.

Let her keep the opinion until she's secure about things. It doesn't seem too many people accepted her as a friend, much less loved her in the past.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Can't hate on Solas for having Game. 

 

Best douchebro in fiction ever.

 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

No one is an ideal match for her. She can either make some sacrifices for the sake of love or stick to her guns and be single. You know, just like people do in real life.

[Violetbliss]

I think the romances we see are way too much in their infancies to really tell; for example i'm pretty sure Sera can learn to appreciate the view of others, the longer she spends among real friends, not just the friends of Red Jenny. That big deciding thing with her, I feel like she isn't ready yet to have somebody she obviously cares about violently disagree, so you basically have to give on that one in order to reassure her. My character didn't actually speak the truth in my headcanon, that's for sure. A white lie as it were.

 

As for Solas, personally I think he is a damaged man; he clearly uses you in a sense, but he doesn't really want to and yet he clearly can't resist the attraction. It's a pretty classic "person who isn't supposed to love but does" case in my book.

 

I kind of agree regarding Josie though, I don't see her living with a clan. She seems interested in the outdoors when you talk to her, but I doubt she'd want to live like that all the time. It'd be a long-distance relationship part time... at best, if your dalish elf doesn't change, again in my eyes.