I guess that's possible. From a computer's standpoint, they might all share the same data, and thus are the same. Though I think there's still differences. It's why I said, though everyone's DNA has changed, we're not gonna be "exactly" the same. People will have different hairstyles and skin tones because of a difference in genetics. Garrus will still be a birdman. Liara will still be a squid woman. We might all be considered "synthesis" instead of Organic, but their still will be differences, with only the "who's more machine" disappearing more and more overtime as we become more merged.
Personally I don't think thats possible (what you're guessing is possible, that is). That's part of why I view it as space magic in the first place. It's silly but thats what the ending is asking us to believe. Also the difference is now those visual differences we have are now made, frankly, rather aesthetic. We all have the same framework, a new dna. All synthetic and organic life have become one. Humans look different from one another, sometimes to wild degrees, yet we're all still of the same species. That's essentially what I'm getting at here - all life has been merged into a few framework, a new dna. There are no more lines between us, we are all one. Peace in the universe. Kumbaya...
This is where I disagree somewhat. What I mean is no one was turned into robots with machine parts inside the second the blast hit them. And nothing in the ending or Extended Cut suggests that. EDI never says "And now all Organics have robotic stuff in them, and I have a beating heart", like many assumed when they saw the original endings. Maybe something overtime in the future, "As the line between synthetic and organics blurs". But right now, for the present, it's just everyone has been changed, and on the Organics side of things, it's mainly their DNA, and the green energy they have around them. And that's all we see. Green energy that's down to our cells.
What I speculate is that the energy is the synthetic. It's energy similar to element zero that Biotics use, that now everyone has been merged with. It allows us to integrate with technology, and allows synthetics to integrate with us in ways never possible without synthesis. It also has it's own perks when it comes to evolution.
What are you talking about? I know I said this already but did we really watch the same ending? They do have synthetic stuff in them. Right down to their dna strands. They have glowing green circuitry glowing in their eyes and skin. So does EDI, Ms "I am Alive". I'm not speculating all life becomes one, organic and synthetic. Its what happens. Its what is told to us happens. Im not speculating, I'm taking it at face-value. Could I be wrong? Sure, but then the catalyst is wrong since its the one who told us that in the first place.
Yes, she does say "as the line disappears" but you have to view it in context with everything else. The line has already disappeared. That is the whole point of synthesis. All synthetic and organic life has been merged to form new life. The catalyst tells us as much, we see as much.
I'm not saying EDI suddenly has a heart. Of course she doesn't suddenly have organs. She does now have DNA, however. DNA that is merged with organic and the same as everyone elses. We're all the same species, essentially. We're all synthesis. The lines that divided us are gone, hence why we can live peacefully. I know that doesn't make sense, btw. I'm not defending it. I'm just telling you how it is in the story, how its presented to us.
Your speculation doesn't follow the lore, though I like it better than the lore so... yeah lol. In the lore they are combined, they are one. Catalyst tells us. EDI tells us. Ending tells us. We are synthesis. All organic and synthetic life is combined to form something new, to create a new form of existence. I am not the one saying this, the catalyst says it - I'm just repeating it.
The catalyst says specifically that both Synthetic and Organic life be combined into a new framework, a new DNA. Not that we'll all be combined, period. That also doesn't mean I now have robot parts inside me now that the blast hit me. Does it mean we'll all be consider a new species that's not consider Organic or Synthetic because of DNA from a computer's point of view is the same, similar to scanning the DNA of 2 people, and saying they're human? Sure. I'm not gonna disagree with that.
But again, we all change the same in the scene that we all have been synthesized. We all have the same green energy within us. And our DNA has changed to a new framework. But what I disagree with is that it doesn't mean your framework and the geth's framework is "exactly" the same. That's speculation. You can believe that, since there's nothing to deny it. I just don't believe it.
We're all given this new DNA that is a combination of synthetic and organic. That is why we are all combined and the same. Your use of the term "robot parts" is a bit disingenuous. Synthetic is essentially the same thing as robotic. When one thinks "robot part" they think of a something like a mechanical limb. That isn't the context of the merger. Synthesis is still making you partly synthetic. That doesn't mean you suddenly come out with robot hearts and metal arms. Though you very, very clearly see the synthetic influence done on our dna. We have glowing green eyes and our faces glow motherboard patterns for crying out loud.
You're essentially saying here that because geth are machines and organics are organics that when they combine they will have primarily more of one than the other so they're not the same. The geth won't be the same because they were originally a complete machine and the organic won't be the same as the geth because it had organs, right? Makes sense. Though unfortunately synthesis doesn't make sense. It says all organic and synthetic life is combined to form a new framework. That new framework is what now makes up life, right down to the plants. No more lines. No more division. We are all one. The physical differences that separate us are made superficial. The DNA is the same.
Think of it this way, if I take a human and start removing organs, limbs, and doing horrible things to him.... is it not still a human? I mean, its a just a living lump of flesh with missing bits and pieces at this point. Very different from us. Yet still the same. That is the situation synthesis puts us in. We might have differences in our forms but down on a dna level we are all the same. Just as we are all human regardless of how different or diverse we may be all synthesis life is the same. A new framework, a new combination. All life is combined. Catalyst's words, not mine.
I'm basing my speculation on Lore. Though Leviathans might've not designed it specifically, they might've influenced it. From the Reaper's point of view, the Leviathans are dead. And until Shepard found them in ME3, the Reapers would have no idea if they have any involvement in the crucible's original designs. As far as the Reapers know before ME3, they harvested every last one of them, and the crucible was created by some random race they also harvested (possible). That's it. So if the Leviathans say, possessed some dude, who weirdly brought a big pearl everywhere he went, and this guy gave certain plans to this race, and they thus created the original plans of the crucible, the Reapers probably wouldn't know about it, and Leviathan probably wouldn't even mention it to Shepard, in fear of Shepard asking them "So what does it do? Oh it doesn't give me an option to kill Reapers without killing the Geth? Well, you better help us redesign this so it doesn't!".
That's the thing though, mine isn't speculation. Mine is the lore itself. I'm presenting it as the game tells us at face value. The catalyst tells us we don't know who made it. You're speculating the they still had a hand it. I'm just saying the lore says they didn't. The catalyst could be wrong and your speculation right. That sounds better to me, I like the idea of the leviathans being behind it. My issue is that it goes against the current lore and I rather work within the lore.
The Leviathan's didn't take credit for it and acted like they were only observers of it and the Catalyst seems to know who made it and specifically said we don't know. While I like the speculation that they were behind it means what we have in the lore is actually wrong or misleading, a lie. Which is a possible. I'm only pointing out that the speculation invalidates the lore we have. Which is generally something I dislike. Even if done officially I hate it when someone goes "oh, btw, this part of the lore? Not real."
I hate retcon so while I like the idea of the leviathan being behind it all... the fact that they haven't admitted it and played dumb and the catalyst also played dumb would annoy me if they suddenly changed that. If they were behind it then why didn't they say so, why act like they had nothing to do with it? Why does the catalyst say we don't know them when we do? Sure, you can speculate loopholes around it but it still is a retcon. A bit like Cerberus in ME2 onward, actually. Lol.
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