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[jellobell]

In Origins we had Morrigan. In DA2 we had Merrill. In Inquisition everyone hates demons. Always gonna garner disapproval if you do stuff like make a deal with Imshael. Anyone else think there should be a pro-demon-loving companion?

Uh, Solas? His views of spirits and demons are even more liberal than Morrigan and Merrill's.

[Serza]

F no, we don't need A Merrill. We need THE Merrill.

[Colonelkillabee]

Even Morrigan knew better than to make deals with demons though. Granted, she knew a blood magic ritual and you could make her a blood mage, but I think the blood ritual was taught to her by Flemeth, not with the help of a demon on the side. It's possible though. But when you send her to the fade, and play as her to save Connor, she does say she knows better than to fall for such tricks.

 

Anyway, Solas somewhat fills this role for me. He's not as foolish as the other two about it But he understands magic better than others, and unlike other mages, isn't the type to let blood magic tempt him or change him. Not that he uses it, but he understands its a tool like anything else. He knows that demons and spirits are one in the same, more or less. He's not afraid of magic, any magic.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I feel that Solas is more cautious, though. Like, he has limits, whereas Merrill's like, "A demon! Huuuuug!!!"

Is this the same Merrill who always talks about how she takes every precaution and even brings us along to kill her if she gets possessed? 

[jellobell]

I feel that Solas is more cautious, though. Like, he has limits, whereas Merrill's like, "A demon! Huuuuug!!!"

Well Merrill thinks that all demons and spirits are inherently dangerous ("there's no such thing as a good spirit"). She just doesn't think this means that they can't be used to gain power and knowledge. But they definitely shouldn't be trusted.

 

Solas, on the other hand, advocates for treating spirits like people, which is waaay farther than either Merrill or Morrigan would be prepared to go. They can be dangerous, yes, but assuming that every spirit is dangerous just means that you end up finding what you expect. He believes you should approach the Fade with an open mind and without preconceptions.

[Fiery Phoenix]

You have a male equivalent.

 

See: Solas.

[Steelcan]

we already had a walking endorsement of the Circles with Vivienne

[jellobell]

Hmm, still, I just don't feel that Solas is the same. I don't know why, exactly, but I don't. :b

Well he's not nearly as gung-ho as Merrill is. She's young and proud and sure of herself. Solas has had his surety beaten out of him over the years. It's the same contrast you can make between him and Morrigan. Especially DAO Morrigan. He has a lot in common with the both of them, he's just a lot older and more self-aware.

[daveliam]

I definitely feel that Solas plays a similar role in DA: I.   Just like Morrigan and Merrill are similar, but not the same in their views on demons/spirits, Solas is similar but not the same.  I feel that the big difference is that Merrill acknowledged the danger but thought she was too clever to be possessed, whereas Solas doesn't feel that spirits/demons are inherently dangerous.  Despite that, I feel that he is the go-to "it's okay to be open to dialogue and deals with spirits/demons" mage.  It's also why I tend to not get along with any of them very much.

[Steelcan]

I definitely feel that Solas plays a similar role in DA: I.   Just like Morrigan and Merrill are similar, but not the same in their views on demons/spirits, Solas is similar but not the same.  I feel that the big difference is that Merrill acknowledged the danger but thought she was too clever to be possessed, whereas Solas doesn't feel that spirits/demons are inherently dangerous.  Despite that, I feel that he is the go-to "it's okay to be open to dialogue and deals with spirits/demons" mage.  It's also why I tend to not get along with any of them very much.

really driving home the irony of her dealing with a pride demon

[Blackzio]

Solas is different, i loved him, but didn't fill the gap, i won't go much further because spoilers.

 

So I agree, i missed a morrigan/merril, because that was always my choice of romance, i end up having 2 choices, a cute brute or a diplomat. josie was ok i guess, in real life she might have been my choice of romance, and cass is cooler then you think when you get to know her. 

 

But still, in fantasy worlds like dragon age i wanna bang the crazy chick, (in real life you might end up with burned clothes and a dead dog or something) 

[Br3admax]

Morrigan hates demons and spirits, so..., how is she similar to Merrill in the slightest? I mean she refuses to deal with literally every single one met. 

[Mushashi7]

Pesonalities? Strong personalities?

I think there are plenty of those in the game. It depends on what you persue.

Yes, Merill was maybe the most shining person you felt close to, if she was your choice that is.

In this game I feel that Solas has a strong personality, so does Vivienne and Dorian. Cassandra also has a personality, it's just not as interesting. Varric? He is just Varric. And Sera? You must admit she has a very strong personality. That she is confusing and maybe unappealing is a different talk.

Merill was special. Indeed. Because she was vulnerable. She didn't think higly of her self. A person you'd care forand protect. And cute looks too. She had the best background story.

In Dragon Age Origins Leliana and Morrigan was the dominant characters. In Dragon Age 2 it was Merril and Fenris.
And who is dominating in Inquisition? If any I think Solas and Sera and/or Dorian are. They are the ones you get closest to.

But you're right, we definetely need a cute character like Merill. Cuteness rules!

[jellobell]

Solas is different, i loved him, but didn't fill the gap, i won't go much further because spoilers.

Well you can tag your spoilers with [1spoiler] Text Here [1/spoiler] without the numbers.

 

I definitely feel that Solas plays a similar role in DA: I.   Just like Morrigan and Merrill are similar, but not the same in their views on demons/spirits, Solas is similar but not the same.  I feel that the big difference is that Merrill acknowledged the danger but thought she was too clever to be possessed, whereas Solas doesn't feel that spirits/demons are inherently dangerous.  Despite that, I feel that he is the go-to "it's okay to be open to dialogue and deals with spirits/demons" mage.  It's also why I tend to not get along with any of them very much.

Yeah, well-said.

 

And Solas is almost always open for dialogue, not just with spirits/demons. He likes it when the Inquisitor considers all of the options available, rather than just rejecting certain ones outright. I recall when I confronted Imshael and I asked him for clarification on what he was offering, Solas said something to the effect of, "it does not hurt to listen". Of course, I think Solas still disapproves if you actually take Imshael's deal because it's a dumb move.

[TK514]

I thought we already had a character who could make poor choices and get their entire clan killed.

[LobselVith8]

In Origins we had Morrigan. In DA2 we had Merrill. In Inquisition everyone hates demons. Always gonna garner disapproval if you do stuff like make a deal with Imshael. Anyone else think there should be a pro-demon-loving companion?

That's a gross simplification of Merrill's Dalish view that spirits are spirits, and not Spirits and Demons under Andrastian classification (the First Children of the Maker and those who turned their backs on the Maker to embody different "sins"). It's also a misrepresentation about how she knows spirits can be dangerous, and even chastises Anders for having such a black and white view of the denizens of the Beyond.

An intelligent, pro-Dalish view was certainly needed in Inquisition; it's too bad Merrill wasn't part of the story.

[AresKeith]

Who needs pro-Dalish when you have Solas

[Steelcan]

Intelligent? Merrill?


What

[Br3admax]

Lulz. I don't think I remember Merrill doing a single intelligent thing. 

[Serza]

So, is this turning into a Merrill Hate Thread...?