I was just watching this
and I wondered what would Cerberus do or anyone would do now that Shepard is dead?
I mean, what would happen to the galaxy in ME3? Would the Reapers win? How would Joker's history play out? Do people give up hope? Speculate please!
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He would get back in the biz and show the galaxy how it's done.
... can you tell me another story about the Verner?
Well, Liara still becomes the Shadow Broker, and presumably still finds the Crucible plans, so...
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The Blue Suns bring Shepard back in the Eutychus Project. They are revealed to be doing so under the leadership of the Ellusive Duke (or TED). He'll reveal that all the Blue Sun groups you encountered in ME2 were actually rogue cells.
Anyway, to be serious that's hard to say. Shepard is supposedly such a central figure to the galaxy, yet during the course of ME3 he pretty much plays as a yes man to other peoples' orders; so I don't think the galaxy really needs Shepard the Tactician or Shepard the Diplomat. In my mind, all you need is enough people to make up for the loss of Shepard and friends ability to hose things down with bullets. You have Liara, Kashley, the psuedo replacements, and those thousands of N7 dudes so I think the galaxy has that covered.
As we see Liara finds the Crucible plans regardless of Shepard's involvement, so I guess the first issue is how Mars plays out. Like Shepard I assume Joker would return the Normandy to Earth, as by the end of ME2 every one seems to finally wise up about TIM's shenanigans and no longer wants to follow him (although the 'everyone' is dead if Shepard is dead, so who really knows). EDI apparently can fly the ship well enough, so regardless of whether Joker is in Shepard's shoes for the Alliance Defense Committee (where he'll probably die since that explosion would probably shatter everything in his body) or on the ship for the retrofits I'm sure someone will be there to fly Kashley, maybe James (did not read the comics), and a handful of others to bail out Liara and get the plans.
From there everything probably resumes on course with only micro level changes.
The galaxy is boned.
Actually, no, TIM saves the galaxy and takes control of the Reapers.
If Joker brought the Normandy back to TIM instead of it being handed over to the alliance, the stuff we see in ME3 when Shepard is in the game may never happen.
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This is the default ending to the Mass Effect story.
ME3 never happened...it was all fanfiction. Shepard died at the end of ME2, the collectors are dead and the reapers are STILL trapped in dark space.
No. There is no problem. TIM had a clone made in case things went south. Shepard without the baggage. If Shepard died at the end of ME2, then he activates the clone. The clone Shepard tells Joker that the Shepard aboard the Normandy SR-2 was a clone. They couldn't risk the real deal on a suicide mission. Shepard saves the galaxy in ME3.
Let's keep in Mind that if Shepard dies, then the Ship Crew would be
James
Liara
EDI
Javik?
Virmire Survivor
And Joker
Of course, IDK if there would be a ship at all, since TIM's last order was for Jeff to "Return the Normandy to Port", and maybe Jeff complied... Then what? No Normandy. No Shepard. Shepard is dead, TIM Controls the Reapers?
Maybe not because as the Catalyst would say, they already controlled TIM, and then the Reapers would win...
Shepard of course had that "Charm" of getting things done... I believe no one in their right mind would cure the Genophage. So, no Alliance between Krogan. Krogan Fall. Salarian Councilor can be dead, because no one can contain the damage at the Citadel. C-Sec was doomed without Shepard there. Citadel is now in control of Cerberus... Uh... Well...
As Mordin would say "Too many Variables!"
No. There is no problem. TIM had a clone made in case things went south. Shepard without the baggage. If Shepard died at the end of ME2, then he activates the clone. The clone Shepard tells Joker that the Shepard aboard the Normandy SR-2 was a clone. They couldn't risk the real deal on a suicide mission. Shepard saves the galaxy in ME3.
Yes, TIM had a clone, but in the Foundation Comics, the Clone is stolen by Brooks, and the story takes place before ME2 (2184), so no possibility there..
Maybe they would bring back the Clone at all cost?? IDK.
With no Shepard, there most likely be no way to get peace between the Geth and Quarians
How would the beacon be activated on Thessia with Shepard dead and the possibility of Javik not recruited? Its possible to have Shiala do it, but she could be dead in ME1.
Who would replace Shepard in ME3? Would it be Ashley, Kaidan, James or would Anderson be the leader and someone else leads the resistance on Earth? I'm sure Anderson wouldn't complain especially if he's the one who gets to shoot Udina.
The Starchild is never discovered and the Reapers maintain their mystique.
I think a lot of this hinges on whether or not Joker takes the Normandy back to TIM or to Earth in that ending. If TIM has the Normandy, he has possession of the only ship powerful enough and with a good enough stealth engine to get in and out of any Reaper-controlled territory scot free. Anderson most likely dies on Earth in the beginning because he'd be trying to fight through all the Reapers alone to reach the Normandy (if there). The Quarians are slaughtered because, even if the surviving members help the Quarian's infiltrate the Geth Dreadnaught and release Geth VI, chances are they wouldn't be able to stop Geth VI from upgrading the Geth with Reaper tech. If TIM has the Normandy, everything would likely go his way. It is much less likely that Liara gets off Mars alive with the plans, so TIM probably has them. I could see TIM becoming a super Lawful Evil Shepard with the Normandy and little to nothing for people to stop him. In the end, the Crucible still gets built with Cerberus funds and forced help from others. TIM attempts to control the Reapers but fails... because they've been controlling him all along. Rinse, repeat.
Blasto vs Verner: Dawn of the Harvest.
More serious answer:
TIM sends out the clone who tries to force the galaxy to be led by Cerberus to "stop" the reapers. But since Cerberus = reaper forces by the time of the war, the galaxy ends up basically in a civil war since half are scared of Cerberus's aggressive expansion and stays under them [plus reaper tech assistance swaying those people] and the other half are able to resist Cerberus at the start of the war. This allows the reapers to divide and conquer. Then this cycle loses the war
I think I heard it mentioned before ME2's release that the team mentioned an interest in Shepard's death at the the end of ME2 being importable and assuming the control of another new protagonist. I hope this sort of scenario becomes optional one day.
If Shepard was dead, the Normandy would have been a Cerberus vessel, effectively giving them a considerable edge, and the galaxy would have been royally f**ked.
With no Shepard, there most likely be no way to get peace between the Geth and Quarians
Doesn't matter in the end
How would the beacon be activated on Thessia with Shepard dead and the possibility of Javik not recruited? Its possible to have Shiala do it, but she could be dead in ME1.
Cerberus still takes it away, and gets the information anyway.
Who would replace Shepard in ME3? Would it be Ashley, Kaidan, James or would Anderson be the leader and someone else leads the resistance on Earth? I'm sure Anderson wouldn't complain especially if he's the one who gets to shoot Udina.
James Vega, savior of the galaxy!!!
James Vega, savior of the galaxy!!!
Nah, Jimmyboy wouldn't even leave earth without Shep, he'd set the Normandy right back down in his uncle's backyard or something.
Conrad it is man, Conrad for the win ... well, whatever that thing at the end is!
Doesn't matter in the end
It doesn't though I wonder if whoever replaces Shepard would be successful in helping the Quarians
Cerberus still takes it away, and gets the information anyway.
How would they do that? If they were able to take it away, why didn't they, Kai Leng, take it before Shepard showed up?
James Vega, savior of the galaxy!!!
I wonder who would be flying the shuttle that smashes into the Cerberus shuttle?
Nah, Jimmyboy wouldn't even leave earth without Shep, he'd set the Normandy right back down in his uncle's backyard or something.
Conrad it is man, Conrad for the
win... well, whatever that thing at the end is!
Well, except for COnrad joining Cerberus. That never ends well 
How would they do that? If they were able to take it away, why didn't they, Kai Leng, take it before Shepard showed up?
Dunno, but Vendetta shut itself down after detecting an "indoctrinated presence" but they still got the info about the Catalyst from it.
I wonder who would be flying the shuttle that smashes into the Cerberus shuttle?
:shrug: Cortez? Or whoever was flying the shuttle to Mars in the first place?
Dunno, but Vendetta shut itself down after detecting an "indoctrinated presence" but they still got the info about the Catalyst from it.
They still had to reveal the artifact in order to get the information. Without the Cipher, there was no way Cerberus would be able to activate the artifact unless they just say to heck with it and use the gunship to fire at the statues to reveal the artifact. Of course doing that may damage the artifact.
:shrug: Cortez? Or whoever was flying the shuttle to Mars in the first place?
If they have Cortez fly the shuttle to Mars, I would be curious why he didn't fly it in the first place in ME3. This all depends on whether or not Joker brought the Normandy back to TIM or not
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