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[X Equestris]

Considering the ambitions for this game it is a sale flop.
Being the best of Bioware isn't that much, really, Final Fantasies and Dragon Quests beat Bioware's best in launch week in Japan...
Also considering 4 consoles + PC, and all the marketing and... well... really not a success.
But yeah, godlike for Bioware, whoohoo... it is obvious that they were aiming at sales, since game have nothing good it was obviously made for achieving high sales, no surprise there, they sacrificed the amazing kind of game they used to make in order to sell, nothing worthy of discussing really, just the obvious
But again, IMO too much sacrificing of good things for a ridiculously small amount of extra sales. Compare Origins and Inquisition... I'm not even sure Inqui is going to make that much more money (multiplayer aside of course)

There's another quote from the report floating around saying that the game exceeded EA's expectations, so calling it a flop is incorrect.

[Precursor Meta]

So who at bioware is getting a pay raise?

[Kroepoek]

So who at bioware is getting a pay raise?

 

The people who constructed the By PC Gamers, for PC Gamers video.

[line_genrou]

 

 

Always worth seeing for the lolz

[Rizilliant]

Im not at all surprised.. They squashed any and all negative feedback, boatse dGOTY awards everywhere, and had critics giving perfect scores.. Having played it before, and after patch 1, 2, and 3 on PC, i just dont see where all the 90-100 scores come from.. Technical issues alone had me dropping it to an 8/10...Clearly rushed for the Holiday.. Multiplayer seems like a cheap, tacked on afterthought..

 

The graphics are amazing, i liked the main story, companions, and the companion quests, bt everything else was atrocious.. Combat was more akin to Assassins Creed, or Batman, than Dragon Age.. Tactics are gone. The camera, behaviors, all of it.. The DirectX crashes persist.. Banter still doesnt work for many.. So much of the game was just walking, walking, pick flower, walk, walk, pick ore, walk, kill 3 random mob..My PC is above sugested specs, and it still stutters, tears, framerate drops, sound pops in and out, so much clipping.. Main sotry missions were glaringly incorrect with the World State loaded, and i even had Liliana, and morrigan contradict each other about the Hero of Ferelden.. One said it was a female, who was left on bad terms, when in actuality, it was a male, whom she had a baby with.. The next claims she was with him when he died fighting teh archdemon..Hawke was not the proper class, and gave misinformation.. Upon inspection, all the info was in fact correct in the Keep, but the game doesnt recognize.

 

All in all, i found myself bored often, and having to force myself to play when exploring.. Though the aformentioned positives, i couldnt get enough of.. It just eally was short, and little of it.... My final score was a 6/10.. -2 for technical problems, and 2 more for the enjoyment factor..

[SofaJockey]

And the whining continues.

Good old BSN....

[Raoni Luna]

There's another quote from the report floating around saying that the game exceeded EA's expectations, so calling it a flop is incorrect.

EA's expectations... oh, yeah, gonna believe it. Developers talked so much about copying Skyrim that I highly doubt they were aiming at anything short of at least half of Skyrim sales. Secretely they probably thought of selling the same of even more.

But well, look at DA2 and DAI, compare their sales, I can't for the life of me think they spent nearly the same proportion in budget. Can you honestly believe that the money they spent in 4 years of development compared to DA2 short development is proportional to the sales? I can't.

[Melca36]

Considering the ambitions for this game it is a sale flop.
Being the best of Bioware isn't that much, really, Final Fantasies and Dragon Quests beat Bioware's best in launch week in Japan...

Also considering 4 consoles + PC, and all the marketing and... well... really not a success.

But yeah, godlike for Bioware, whoohoo... it is obvious that they were aiming at sales, since game have nothing good it was obviously made for achieving high sales, no surprise there, they sacrificed the amazing kind of game they used to make in order to sell, nothing worthy of discussing really, just the obvious

But again, IMO too much sacrificing of good things for a ridiculously small amount of extra sales. Compare Origins and Inquisition... I'm not even sure Inqui is going to make that much more money (multiplayer aside of course)

 

 

The fact remains Inquisition has received far less rage than what DA2 got and you are just angry and bitter that it is successful and you get off on ruining other people's fun...the people who are enjoying the game.

[Sanunes]

EAs stock since Oct. seems to be quite on the upswing. Did they have any major releases beside DAI in that time?

 

I don't buy sports games, but isn't that around the time of the yearly release of Madden and FIFA for I can't think of anything else EA published since the Sims 4.

 

The other thing could have been how both Assassin's Creed: Unity and Destiny were received and people moved to EA because of the negativity towards Ubisoft and Activision for those releases.

[ashlover mark 2]

It's Bioware, they get a crap ton of preferential treatment because back in the day they made great games. DAI is decent, but i t's nothing special just like ME3.

[Raoni Luna]

The fact remains Inquisition has received far less rage than what DA2 got and you are just angry and bitter that it is successful and you get off on ruining other people's fun...the people who are enjoying the game.

Is it a bad thing? Yeah I am, of course. Should I do anything else? No wait, I got a better question, should I listen to you for any reason at all? So well, yeah, thanks for stating the obvious

[Sanunes]

It's Bioware, they get a crap ton of preferential treatment because back in the day they made great games. DAI is decent, but i t's nothing special just like ME3.

 

That is any developer for you, for the same can be said for Bungie and Destiny or Ubisoft and their recent releases.

[AWTEW]

But well, look at DA2 and DAI, compare their sales, I can't for the life of me think they spent nearly the same proportion in budget. Can you honestly believe that the money they spent in 4 years of development compared to DA2 short development is proportional to the sales? I can't.

Bingo..

Honestly, there have been lackluster game released in 2014 (remakes aside), and if they had released closer to skyrim/ final fantasy type O then they would not have gotten the same amount of sales.

[AutumnWitch]

They sold their souls to the devil and abandoned those who got them where they are.

 

Although I don't totally believe that I do think they sold out many of us long time DA fans to make more money. Which is their right but doesn't mean I have to like it.

[Nykara]

I honestly don't see the issue people have with the side quests at all in this game. I love the exploration and the fact you can easily choose what to do or not to do. Closing the fade rifts for example makes sense, as does recruiting the guy with the horses and what not. If you don't want to go chasing buffalo's around then simply do not do it. I hope they do keep the next game very similar so people have this choice!

To me, the side quests fit. The Inquisition started with nothing - they need agents, they need influence and they need people to trust in them if they are to succeed. That even means then Inquisitor getting out there, picking a flower and taking it to some old and feable person who is unable to go pick the flower for themselves. Why? Because it humanizes the Inquisitor to people. If you don't want a humanized Inquisitor to the people - don't do the missions.

[littlebrightpanda]

So a better launch than ME3? I don't remember the numbers, but it was pretty good for an RPG. Not every game will pull Skyrim numbers, and as long as they succeed expectations, all is well. I remember when Square Enix said, Tomb Raider underperformed, despite selling more than 7 million copies. 

 

DAI was probably seen as an investment, as Frostbite had to be made compatible first, which also means groundwork is done and further releases might be come out faster. Just like Final Fantasy XIII and it's sequels...

[Naphtali]

Im not at all surprised.. They squashed any and all negative feedback, boatse dGOTY awards everywhere, and had critics giving perfect scores.. Having played it before, and after patch 1, 2, and 3 on PC, i just dont see where all the 90-100 scores come from.. Technical issues alone had me dropping it to an 8/10...Clearly rushed for the Holiday.. Multiplayer seems like a cheap, tacked on afterthought..

 

..My PC is above sugested specs, and it still stutters, tears, framerate drops, sound pops in and out, so much clipping.. Main sotry missions were glaringly incorrect with the World State loaded, and i even had Liliana, and morrigan contradict each other about the Hero of Ferelden.. One said it was a female, who was left on bad terms, when in actuality, it was a male, whom she had a baby with.. The next claims she was with him when he died fighting teh archdemon..Hawke was not the proper class, and gave misinformation.. Upon inspection, all the info was in fact correct in the Keep, but the game doesnt recognize.

 

All in all, i found myself bored often, and having to force myself to play when exploring.. Though the aformentioned positives, i couldnt get enough of.. It just eally was short, and little of it.... My final score was a 6/10.. -2 for technical problems, and 2 more for the enjoyment factor..

 

 

Unfortunately, this is the zombie generation and the power of advertising.  After the e3 presentation ea was going to be pushing hard$$$ and having such a weak RPG market with todays younger demographic made it easy.

 

 

 

 

Maybe now Dragon Age will get the attention it deserves instead of Mass Effect

 

I don't sound bitter, do I?

NO

technically ME deserves that attention, for starters not being just another of a fantasy Tolkein ripoff

http://www.gamingnex.../Item22492.aspx

[Quaddis]

As per EA's financial release:

http://news.ea.com/p...nancial-results

 

Excerpt:

"Dragon Age: Inquisition captivated fans and critics worldwide and it quickly became the most successful launch in BioWare™ history in addition to being named to more than 200 “Game of the Year” lists. The single player campaign alone has been enjoyed for more than 113 million hours."

 

So much for being the sales flop some people were hoping for 

Congrats, BioWare!

 

I see...very nice and shiny. How many copies?

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Wonderful and well done. They did their job, which was to create a video game that appealed to a particular market, very well. Now please get on with fixing the issues on the PC version of Dragon Age Inquisition, especially the gameplay bugs. 

 

With all the PC bugs and flaws, I would give the game 6/10. If the game is as it is, working fine without any bugs I would give it 8/10. 

 

Oh and please, for the love of all that is holy, please fix the Male Elf model. The male elf is quite unplayable in its current stage. 

[ashlover mark 2]

That is any developer for you, for the same can be said for Bungie and Destiny or Ubisoft and their recent releases.

I agree. That's why I'm not a Bioware or a Bungie fan. I'm a Mass Effect\Dragon Age and Halo fan. I'm loyal to the games -- not the companies that make them.

[SofaJockey]

EA's expectations... oh, yeah, gonna believe it. Developers talked so much about copying Skyrim that I highly doubt they were aiming at anything short of at least half of Skyrim sales. Secretely they probably thought of selling the same of even more.

But well, look at DA2 and DAI, compare their sales, I can't for the life of me think they spent nearly the same proportion in budget. Can you honestly believe that the money they spent in 4 years of development compared to DA2 short development is proportional to the sales? I can't.

 

What you believe is not really the determining factor here.

What you anticipate developers secretly thought is your own fantasy that you are entitled to.

If you cling to the notion that DAI is a 'sales flop' then that is a static cage of your own making that runs contrary to published information.

 

The situation seems very clear, DAI has been critically and financially very successful.

That doesn't force you to like the game, it's success does not equate to perfection, but inventing your own truth lacks credibility.

 

From the Earnings Call statement:

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition was named to more than 200 “Game of the Year” lists globally."

"In particular, Dragon Age: Inquisition had by far the most successful launch in BioWare’s history, exceeding our expectations."

"Outperformance versus our outlook was driven by the record-breaking Dragon Age: Inquisition performance."

[AWTEW]

I honestly don't see the issue people have with the side quests at all in this game. I love the exploration and the fact you can easily choose what to do or not to do. Closing the fade rifts for example makes sense, as does recruiting the guy with the horses and what not. If you don't want to go chasing buffalo's around then simply do not do it. I hope they do keep the next game very similar so people have this choice!
To me, the side quests fit. The Inquisition started with nothing - they need agents, they need influence and they need people to trust in them if they are to succeed. That even means then Inquisitor getting out there, picking a flower and taking it to some old and feable person who is unable to go pick the flower for themselves. Why? Because it humanizes the Inquisitor to people. If you don't want a humanized Inquisitor to the people - don't do the missions.

For you. A lot of biowares reputation is built around decent story based games, and not being a skyrim clone. They are treding dangerous ground..if they continue on this path, then their brandname will destroyed, and they will not recover from it. They will be seen as nothing more than a weak skyrim clone.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Good, now we can stop with the doomsaying. 

[Naphtali]

I honestly don't see the issue people have with the side quests at all in this game. I love the exploration and the fact you can easily choose what to do or not to do. Closing the fade rifts for example makes sense, as does recruiting the guy with the horses and what not. If you don't want to go chasing buffalo's around then simply do not do it. I hope they do keep the next game very similar so people have this choice!

To me, the side quests fit. The Inquisition started with nothing - they need agents, they need influence and they need people to trust in them if they are to succeed. That even means then Inquisitor getting out there, picking a flower and taking it to some old and feable person who is unable to go pick the flower for themselves. Why? Because it humanizes the Inquisitor to people. If you don't want a humanized Inquisitor to the people - don't do the missions.

 

Wow....just wow.. :/
 

[Fandango]

Pleasantly surprised by the news. Congrats to all involved.