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[SurelyForth]

The cynic in me thinks it was done (poorly I might add) to make Alistair seem more exotic since he has a pretty major following. Shall I place bets as to whether or not Cullen will also be awkwardly revealed as being Elfblooded as well in the future?

 

With that said I'm also not a huge fan of major plot points being limited to outside material.

 

Yeah, except The Calling was released before DAO even came out so there was always a huge likelihood that Fiona was Alsiatir's mother, so please go elsewhere with your implied "the devs ruin the lore to make fangirls happy" bs.

 

(also, this doesn't even make sense as elf-bloodedness is pretty much the opposite of "exotic" in DA, never mind that it's huge threat to the role that most players who romance him like for him to be in)

[Korva]

The timeline mistake is that orginally Alistair was intended to be older (changed because his character was made younger and less experienced so as not to upset the male players who didn't like him questioning their actions in a focus group)

 

Wow.

 

That's ... really all I can say about that. Actually it's either that or a long rant. WTF.

[DinkyD]

The cynic in me thinks it was done (poorly I might add) to make Alistair seem more exotic since he has a pretty major following. Shall I place bets as to whether or not Cullen will also be awkwardly revealed as being Elfblooded as well in the future?

 

With that said I'm also not a huge fan of major plot points being limited to outside material.

 

Thought about this; maybe we should christen a law along the lines of: the longer a fantasy universe endures, the probability of any plot point, lore, or character being directly or indirectly connected to elves approaches 1

[Eliastion]

Thought about this; maybe we should christen a law along the lines of: the longer a fantasy universe endures, the probability of any plot point, lore, or character being directly or indirectly connected to elves approaches 1

That's a poor choice of words, "indirectly connected" is such a broad statement. If the fantasy universe has elves at all, every character, plot point and lore excerpt exists in the same universe - and that's an inidrect connection  

 

Though in Dragon Age it seems like almost every important character has a confirmed elven lover OR is rumored to have an elven lover... By fans if not by lore.

 - All those "Andraste & Shartan" 

 - Celene with Briala

 - Trydda (the goddamned "Mother of Avvar") with her elven lover

 - Maric with Fiona.

 - There are some rumors as to the nature of Anora's relationship with her personal elven servant

Seriously. Who doesn't sleep around with elves in this world!?

[Altiv]

Just a little late for the discussion last month, but I wanted to add my bit. I do get aggravated by mistakes and misinformation within a story, whether in a book or a game or a film. After all if one writes a story, one should be expected to keep it straight. 

 

Fiona cannot be Alistair's mother. Apart from the story in DA:O, it is in black on white in the book The World of Thedas. The chronological section at the bottom of the pages states that Alistair was born in 9:10; but Maric only went to the Deep Roads with Fiona in 9:14. That means Fiona's son would have been only 15 when the 5th Blight started.

 

I did like the idea when I read The Calling; not only Alistair being a bastard but also that his mother was everything everybody despises: a mage and an elf. Imagine the uproar if it were known once he was king; the political intrigues it would add to a possible new plot if Bioware considered prolonging this particular character's story. But perhaps they have done as much as they think commercially viable with the comic books. Also it added gravitas to Maric as a character, instead of the air headed monarch who could not sit straight in his throne and could not keep it in his pants; much like his first son Cailan (as per Anora's confession in DA:O).

 

Now, there should be another son of Maric somewhere, who would be 26 at the time of the Inquisition. Perhaps to be added to a new game/story in the future? After all the idea of the power of dragon blood in the Theirin line is quite interesting, add a bit of magic and voila! quite the powerful character.

 

I make no apology for having all the books. I find Dragon Age story very engaging. I understand some people think it is unfair to expect gamers to also buy the books in order to flesh out facts, but this appears to be the case of a story for a game that surprised with its potential. After all, people who like fantasy (like me) are used to books or tv shows (i.e. Game of Thrones) in series; and we do not really care which forms it takes to develop it providing it does not fall into absurdity.

[TK514]

Just a little late for the discussion last month, but I wanted to add my bit. I do get aggravated by mistakes and misinformation within a story, whether in a book or a game or a film. After all if one writes a story, one should be expected to keep it straight. 

 

Fiona cannot be Alistair's mother. Apart from the story in DA:O, it is in black on white in the book The World of Thedas. The chronological section at the bottom of the pages states that Alistair was born in 9:10; but Maric only went to the Deep Roads with Fiona in 9:14. That means Fiona's son would have been only 15 when the 5th Blight started.

 

 

The devs released an errata correcting this shortly after the release of WoT.  Officially.  It's on the BioWare site somewhere.

[Altiv]

Crafty, and somewhat sloppy.

 

I just saw the Erratum to WoT. You are correct, it moves the events covered in The Calling from 9:14 to 9:10; unfortunately leaving a lot of other inaccuracies in its wake.

 

But this settles the argument in my view, after all, I am not going to argue with the writers. 

[TK514]

Crafty, and somewhat sloppy.

 

I just saw the Erratum to WoT. You are correct, it moves the events covered in The Calling from 9:14 to 9:10; unfortunately leaving a lot of other inaccuracies in its wake.

 

I don't disagree.  It was poorly done and ultimately goes nowhere.  They did it to make a writer's pet even more special, and then turned around and destroyed her in her first game incarnation.  The story was better as orginally written.

[MoonDrummer]

Crafty, and somewhat sloppy.

 

I just saw the Erratum to WoT. You are correct, it moves the events covered in The Calling from 9:14 to 9:10; unfortunately leaving a lot of other inaccuracies in its wake.

 

But this settles the argument in my view, after all, I am not going to argue with the writers.