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[Grimez7]

I feel like this is the one moment of the game that has actually saddened me. He was the right choice, Stroud was needed to lead the new Grey Wardens and this was a good heroic ending for my Hawke just like the sacrifice of the Hero of Fereldan in Origins. But I can't help but think about the people that are never going to see him again. Varric was pretty torn up about it, but i'm thinking more about Isabela. She gave up her life to settle down with him and now she's never going to see him again - so that's pretty sad. But kudos to BioWare on this choice, it was definitely one of the harder ones i've had to make so far. Anyone else's thoughts on this? I feel like I just made myself sound severely upset about this. 

[Exalus]

You overestimate stroud's importance. Any random warden could do it in time.

[Basher of Glory]

Look here

 

http://forum.bioware...rificing-hawke/

 

[Grimez7]

Oh cool, didn't see that. Thanks!

[Vicious]

Hawke's sacrifice made the most sense. "Rebuilding the Wardens is YOUR job. Corypheus is MINE!" he says like a total freaking badass. 

 

 

While I can't stand stroud, he's just some guy who looked around kirkwall burning and said, "nope cant help cause no darkspawn" and i really like leaving him to die, he's simply too lame to deserve any kind of heroic sacrifice.

 

Loghain and Alistair, well they are both silly choices as they have legitimate claims to lead Wardens, Loghain being a well known leader of men and having actually devoted himself to the wardens, and Alistair cause he can do well when he steps up to the plate.

 

 

 

Anyway I doubt the Nightmare killed them anyway... seems more likely they'll be a meat suit they can wear to wreak havoc on the world of men. Feeding on the fears of the blight for 1400 years at least, knowing the fears of all companions, nesting right on top of the black city, a place where spirits avoid, breaking the one rule of the fade, that all points are equidistant from the black city, and being the only villain in all 3 games that could not be defeated...

 

yeah he's practically a god.  We will see them both again imo.

[Wrath_Of_Deadguy]

Had to be Hawke. Not only is it personal, but I played mage Hawke... and frankly, she seemed to be far better suited to the task of keeping a ginormous spider monster busy for a few minutes than some piddling guy with a sword and a moustache. I don't expect to see Hawke again on-screen one way or another (if they gave us the option of killing him/her, the chances are slim that Hawke will ever appear again except as a text-only cameo like the Warden got), and badass last stand seems as good a way as any to wrap up a character. One hero taking the heat so another can go on to save the day. I say let Hawke's ulitimate fate remain a mystery.

 

The meta-drama here is pretty sweet- they're literally asking us to potentially sacrifice ourselves to save... ourselves. Albeit a different incarnation. Not many games have pulled that stunt, and I gotta say I respect the amount of chutzpah it took to write it in.

[Nefla]

No effects are shown of this choice either way, so there's no way I'm going to base the decision on a vague idea of what might possibly happen if this were the real world (such as Stroud being the only one in the world who can lead that branch of the wardens...or something). Stroud is a character I barely know while Hawke is a character I spent an entire game shaping. For imports with Alistair and Loghain as the warden contact I simply imported fake Hawke (crappiest, most evil Hawke possible with every bad decision) and left him to die.

 

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[Wrath_Of_Deadguy]

What has been seen cannot be unseen.  0_o

[ashlover mark 2]

I never leave Hawke. Lol @"Corypheus is MY responsibility." Then when she returns from the fade "Well, that was fun Inquisitor. I'm going way up north now to go talk to some Grey Wardens. Have fun fighting the dude I accidentally set free!" *Waves*

[Sweawm]

A decade later, a novel will reveal the Warden and Hawke met up and ventured into the unknown west to die fighting the True Tevinter Imperium and its omnicidal leader, all to build up to Dragon Age's unwanted MMO reboot: Dragon Age: The Old Republic Imperium 

[Drago_28]

Lol remember one of this guys in KOTOR is still alive.

[ReiKokoFuuu]

so far i haven't been able to leave hawke.  i felt bad enough leaving stroud (i liked him well enough, but unfortunately, i have too strong a bond with my canon hawke), i can't even begin to imagine having to choose between hawke and alistair >___< 

 

also, i felt that hawke really needed to go back to anders and carver: carver because hawke is his only remaining family, of course (gamlen the sleaze doesn't count >.>), and despite (in my headcanon) hawke's relationship with anders being tense after what happened in kirkwall, hawke finally forgave anders and committed himself to helping anders with his cause, while trying his best to keep anders safe from everyone else who wants him dead and i feel that having hawke around helped to keep him grounded instead of losing more of himself to vengeance. 

[Nykara]

I reallyyyy am not looking forward to the Hawke/Alistair choice of this play through for me at all. The only *small* consolation for me is that my Hawke didn't romance anyone ( it was my first play through of DA2 and somehow I missed picking up Fenris and left the run too late for trying to romance Anders ) so it wont be as heart breaking leaving her there since she wont be leaving anyone behind. At the same time I know her family would miss her, and I loved her character all the same. So difficult choice it is but it still has to be Hawke. Between her and Alistair I think she has the best chance of surviving and somehow getting out of the fade.

[ComfortablyNumb]

I reallyyyy am not looking forward to the Hawke/Alistair choice of this play through for me at all. The only *small* consolation for me is that my Hawke didn't romance anyone ( it was my first play through of DA2 and somehow I missed picking up Fenris and left the run too late for trying to romance Anders ) so it wont be as heart breaking leaving her there since she wont be leaving anyone behind. At the same time I know her family would miss her, and I loved her character all the same. So difficult choice it is but it still has to be Hawke. Between her and Alistair I think she has the best chance of surviving and somehow getting out of the fade.

 

I understand you very well.

I created Hawke who romanced (and killed Anders), for the sole purpose of letting Alistair live. It helped RP Champion as a broken guy, who feels has no reason to go on. And finds very good excuse to end it.

 

Otherwise, I can never kill Hawke. Even though I agree, that it makes more sense to let Stroud deal with the Wardens later.

But I'm pretty sure Stroud's moustaches will help him survive, somehow 

[Robert Trevelyan]

My second Hawke will have no problem making the sacrifice. In this playthrough the Warden turning up will be Loghain. Let's be honest, if the Warden's need a Leader, even on his past actions, he's a good option. Whereas Fiona Hawke was not a great Leader. She sided with The Templars right until it cost her her Sister's life. She has no family, Rivalmanced Merrill, and even Varric wasn't on the greatest of terms with her. At least in making the sacrifice she'll gain some kind of redemption for her past actions.

[Sailfindragon]

Cannot stand Hawke. So it was a no brainer for me.

[KaiserShep]

I never thought it very convincing that Stroud was so super important for the effort to rebuild the Wardens. Apparently there's some guys sitting around a griffin-shaped table in Weisshaupt, and the Hero of Ferelden is on a taint journey. I guess his mustache was an inspiration to his men, but maybe it can be an effective shield against a nightmare spider.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Only after playing Inquisition I understand how much attached was to Hawke. In effect, I never let him in the Fade, I think it's Loghain's duty sacrifice against the demon.

[Dieb]

Gonna be honest, it would have made a lot more sense to have Hawke hold off the Nightmare Demon - especially because he would have just killed it and then found his way out of the fade on his own somehow, for all I care.

 

I noticed that the ever subtle "this is what you''ll end up having done"-forecast states Hawke is probably going to die if left behind, but I didn't want to risk the possibility of cutscene/absence incompetence, so I left Stroud behind after all.

 

Then again, I would have left the Inquisitor behind and played the rest of the game as Hawke, if it were up to me.

[Tootles FTW]

If the remaining Grey Wardens seriously have no one that can competently step up to lead them than I am very sorry, but they're doomed regardless of Stroud/Alistair/Loghain's survival.  The only thing that would spare Alistair versus Hawke in that instance is my meta-game adoration for him, but luckily I haven't imported a playthrough with that choice.

Bye, Felicia Stroud!