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#226
Noelemahc

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I have nothing against friendly dev interaction, I was aiming for the same thing in my posts.

 

Again, that's why I write long posts: so I can't be mistinterpreted inasmuch as my grasp of the English language allows me to prevent it.

Your post wasn't clear enough on whether you meant every reaction or the dev reaction specifically, which made it appear somewhat hostile to my eyes. I apologize for mistaking your intent, and I hope I did not offend.



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Kenny Bania

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I like this new butthurt-generating Jeremiah.


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Man this thread derailed fast... It would be nice if people could stop that and air their grievances in new threads. This isn't about MP versus SP. This isn't about EA or profit models. This is simply about fan/dev interaction. And it's primarily about MP, since this was posted on the MP forum because of events taking place on the MP forum.

I encourage SP players to start a thread requesting their own dev/fan interaction discussion.

For the people arguing for pages with one another, can we please just stop? Hobestly, who really cares if someone on the internet thinks they got a point over on you.

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I like this new butthurt-generating Jeremiah.

 

It really is like I'm an idiot-savant when it comes to that kind of thing. It feels kind of like the heyday of the ME 3 MP forums, but not so much in a nostalgic warm-fuzzy way.

 

For the people arguing for pages with one another, can we please just stop? Hobestly, who really cares if someone on the internet thinks they got a point over on you.

 

I realize at this point that it will be hard to believe, but I honestly didn't know I was in two of those arguments, until I suddenly found out that I was.


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^ lol that has actually happened to me before so I get it
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As entertaining as all of this is,

I'm pleased then we are reverting to a calmer conversation.  :D

 

I think it would be useful to keep an eye on pieces of information that have been shared so that

the devs do not have to repeat themselves.

 

If anyone knows the actual BroJo reddit comment link re text chat,

that would be interesting as a reference.



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Kenny Bania

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I encourage SP players to start a thread requesting their own dev/fan interaction discussion.

 

Bingo!

 

Trying to piggyback off our revolution? Nope. Get your own.


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One thing that I think would help the community would be a clarification on how you would like us to report issues that we find in the game.  Would the devs prefer a PM, a post on these boards or a report through the EA channel?


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Hello fellow chest-pounders, we should definitely re-introduce the Thunderdome.


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Oh but we have one of those threads, except there's not much interaction going on, nearly 500 pages and no meaningful statements from Eaware team, aside from the usual damage control/PR bullcrap once a month.



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One thing that I think would help the community would be a clarification on how you would like us to report issues that we find in the game.  Would the devs prefer a PM, a post on these boards or a report through the EA channel?

 

More like reddit and twitter, nobody reads the official channels anyway.



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Oh but we have one of those threads, except there's not much interaction going on, nearly 500 pages and no meaningful statements from Eaware team, aside from the usual damage control/PR bullcrap once a month.

 

That's fine.

But let's not have this one turn into 500 pages of meaningless just yet.

We have yet to demonstrate that we can run a civil thread !


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I thought I'd just point out that, for the record, continuously calling them insulting names such as "EAWare" is probably not going to make them any more inclined to interact with you/answer your questions. In fact, I'm pretty confident it would have the exact opposite effect.

 

Just sayin'.


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#239
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More like reddit and twitter, nobody reads the official channels anyway.

 

Thanks for that insight, but Heroic's question was a reasonable one.

 

By your argument, best leave the BioWare Forum to sink into a sea of hate and spam?

I don't think that would be good for players or BioWare.

 

Pinecone manages to have a civil Twitter thread,

it must be possible to have a more civil and useful thread here too.



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I thought I'd just point out that, for the record, continuously calling them insulting names such as "EAWare" is probably not going to make them any more inclined to interact with you/answer your questions. In fact, I'm pretty confident it would have the exact opposite effect.

 

Just sayin'.

Really says something when just including the name of the company who's umbrella they fall under to their name counts as an insult.

More like Microbungie AM I RIGHT?

But no seriously am I doing it right?



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I thought I'd just point out that, for the record, continuously calling them insulting names such as "EAWare" is probably not going to make them any more inclined to interact with you/answer your questions. In fact, I'm pretty confident it would have the exact opposite effect.

 

Just sayin'.

 

I'm just calling a cat a cat, nothing more. It's a fact, Bioware as we know it is gone, it's been swallowed by EA, digested and expelled the natural way.



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Really says something when just including the name of the company who's umbrella they fall under to their name counts as an insult.

More like Microbungie AM I RIGHT?

But no seriously am I doing it right?

 

I would imagine it is because the name is being used as an accusation and a negative, not a positive.

 

Or am I misinterpreting how it's being used? I certainly only ever see it flung around by people who are angry, so the natural assumption is that it's certainly not a good, jovial, light-hearted moniker label for them. Am I right or am I wrong?



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One thing that I think would help the community would be a clarification on how you would like us to report issues that we find in the game.  Would the devs prefer a PM, a post on these boards or a report through the EA channel?

Yes, lets make it official. Also, what evidence is needed to actually be able to report things.

 

There is that EA chat support but it is very cumbersome. I had to go through it twice and my experience was OK. However, I'd go there only if I have problems actually starting the game or something related to Origin. Bugs, glitches, and little things are not worth that major effort.



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I would imagine it is because the name is being used as an accusation and a negative, not a positive.

 

Or am I misinterpreting how it's being used? I certainly only ever see it flung around by people who are angry, so the natural assumption is that it's certainly not a good, jovial, light-hearted moniker label for them. Am I right or am I wrong?

Oh I'm quite sure you're right about the intent.

It's just the structure of the insult that amuses me.  It's like using liberal or conservative as insults when they're perfectly accurate descriptions of the things a person has no problem with being.

True story I get called Gas Station Ron Jeremy to my face on a semi regular basis.  Which is a perfectly accurate assessment of where I work and unfortunately who I look like.

on a scale of 1 to 10 how angered should I be about being accurately categorized?



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I would imagine it is because the name is being used as an accusation and a negative, not a positive.

 

Or am I misinterpreting how it's being used? I certainly only ever see it flung around by people who are angry, so the natural assumption is that it's certainly not a good, jovial, light-hearted moniker label for them. Am I right or am I wrong?

 

Of course you are right. EAware is definitely used to suggest certain disdain and not as jovial label.



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One thing that I think would help the community would be a clarification on how you would like us to report issues that we find in the game.  Would the devs prefer a PM, a post on these boards or a report through the EA channel?

 

 

When Allan locked THAT thread he linked to EA Tech support as the place to report bugs.  I did suggest that a sticky be done in MP as the place to report MP bugs.  



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Oh I'm quite sure you're right about the intent.

It's just the structure of the insult that amuses me.  It's like using liberal or conservative as insults when they're perfectly accurate descriptions of the things a person has no problem with being.

True story I get called Gas Station Ron Jeremy to my face on a semi regular basis.  Which is a perfectly accurate assessment of where I work and unfortunately who I look like.

on a scale of 1 to 10 how angered should I be about being accurately categorized?

 

I still hold that intent behind a moniker is far more important than the moniker itself. Do people call you such to be amusing or insulting? There's a difference, in my opinion.

 

I work at a newspaper (yes, those actually still exist). Technically, you can wrap mullet in our newspaper. It's a perfectly viable use of it, just as using it to line the bottom of a birdcage is. But when someone calls it "the mullet wrapper", the meaning behind their words is that it has no use other than to wrap fish, that the contents are not worth purchasing to read. It is obviously used as an insult and I am far more likely to tune out the rest of the things that person has to say to me about it because what follows is almost always a heated rant and they just want to yell at someone associated with the newspaper, rather than try to convey constructive feedback.

 

I understand that people are upset or feel they aren't being listened to. But in the general sense of trying to improve dev-fan interaction, I would think leaving out those types of loaded names would be beneficial.

 

That is all I was trying to say.


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It's difficult to have a reasonable discussion when one of the parties is making "clever" (read snide) labels for the other party.  If I'm being the recipient of those, well guess what I'm not really taking much notice.


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Can we please talk about text chat?

Pretty please with dextro-amino cherries on top?
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#250
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Intent is key.  But if the way that a person attempts to show their ill will is poorly conceived enough then it becomes far more amusing than insulting.

If say someone gets in my face ranting and as a part of it tries to derisively call me "Gas Ron" I may end up injured but it will be from how hard I laughed in their face. 

Likewise the images I get for someone calling a place I worked a "mullet Wrapper" would result in immediate removal of the W and the grandest of internal japery playing out.

Basically if someone can't even insult you properly then it almost wraps back around to endearing.

Another true story I once had a guy say in all seriousness to one of my coworkers "that Mario better watch his back!" about me.  You could probably hear me cackling from a block away when I was told that.  Point of fact that guy was likely still in earshot at the time.

May just be a matter of temperament differential there though.


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