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[Precursor Meta]

It's not the fact that the plan involves binding demons, blood sacrifices, or allying with Venatori. He seems most upset about the idea of them killing old gods/arch demons prematurely.

And I know the wardens plans could use some more fine tuning, but other than allying with the venatori, I was kind of ok with the plan. It seems pretty solid. A warden willingly offers themselves as a sacrifice to bind an enigmatic demon that is then tasked to find and kill an old god before it is found and corrupted by the darkspawn.

I know a blood sacrifice willfully done or not, sounds a bit iffy, but that's better than having an archdemon ravage a whole country side with an army of darkspawn. At least that's what I think but solas doesn't. Do they have something in common or maybe solas knows of a greater evil that will rise if the Warden's plans come to fruition?

[WhoopinYourA55Mate]

Because Solas is one lol

[Precursor Meta]

Because Solas is one lol

You for real? Or is this just one of those theories?

[Shinobu]

Any answer would be prejudicial, so, yes, s/he is either for real or just spouting a theory.

[MACharlie1]

Common theory is that there is a connection between the Old Gods and the Elven Pantheon/Forgotten Ones. AKA the ones he locked away and wants to release. 

[WhoopinYourA55Mate]

Oooopsiieee

Spoiler

Dread Wolf(Fen'Harel) is old evil elven God of trickery and deception.

And that one is Solas.

[Arvaarad]

We don't actually know that killing the old gods would end blights. Currently, the only thing that keeps darkspawn from roaming around on the surface all the time is their drive to search the Deep Roads for the next old god.

If there were no remaining old gods, the darkspawn would have no reason to travel en masse to the Deep Roads. Sure, without an archdemon they'd be less organized, but they'd be everywhere. Even if they didn't attack everything on sight (which they do), their mere presence would blight the land, making it uninhabitable and toxic.

[Bigdoser]

Er what? They were planning to storm the deep roads with a demon army in a last gambit to kill the old gods. The plan is stupid solas problem is that none of them question the soundness of the plan they just think MUST STOP/KILL BLIGHT/OLD GODS NO MATTER WHAT. 

 

Which is the kind of thinking he hates and plus they have no idea of the location of the old gods the guy that knew is dead. Oh solas hints that the taint/blight etc is not something you can essentially sledgehammer to bits which the wardens were trying to do. 

 

even though I allied with them I can understand why he was mad at them. 

[In Exile]

Solas thinks that murder without a purpose or plan is a bad idea. He didn't approve if in the fade you asked "Justinia" how to kill the Nightmare demom which is just plain nuts to be opposed to as a goal.

[ThreeF]

 The plan is stupid solas problem is that none of the question the soundness of the plan they just think MUST KILLO BLIGHT NO MATTER WHAT.

...and it involves plucking perfectly normal spirits from the Fade and making them demons to boot.

[leaguer of one]

You for real? Or is this just one of those theories?

Finish the game before you spoil yourself more.

[AlexMBrennan]

Solas thinks that murder without a purpose or plan is a bad idea. He didn't approve if in the fade you asked "Justinia" how to kill the Nightmare demom which is just plain nuts to be opposed to as a goal.

Killing the nightmare demon to save the world (and the party) seems like one of the better purposes. 

[xJLxKing]

There is a connection between the Old Gods and the Elven God. What that connection is we don't know. 

[Precursor Meta]

Finish the game before you spoil yourself more.

I did finish the game and I know about Solas' true identity but I still don't see the correlation of the Elven gods being the old gods.

[ComedicSociopathy]

That's a good question. To bad Mr. I Must-Be-Cryptic-For-No-Reason-Solas didn't bother to explain why. Ugh. Elven gods and their need to be oh so fricking mysterious and vague. 

[SetecAstronomy]

I did finish the game and I know about Solas' true identity but I still don't see the correlation of the Elven gods being the old gods.

I hear the Astrarium codex entries drop clues of a connection. I dont have game up now or I'd reference.

[Mims]

There is a connection between the Old Gods and the Elven God. What that connection is we don't know. 

 

This is the most likely reason. It is very possible that the Grey Wardens are actually hurting their cause by destroying the old gods. 

 

 

I did finish the game and I know about Solas' true identity but I still don't see the correlation of the Elven gods being the old gods.

 

We don't know for certain. But the major link is that there are nine elven gods and seven old gods. Thanks to DA:I, we know that two of the elven gods are not 'trapped': Fen'Harel/Solas and Mythal. That means there are seven trapped elven gods and seven slumbering old gods.

 

It is heavily implied in Andruil's story that the elven gods may have been corrupted by the blight, making an additional tie.

 

The third tie- the constellations of various old gods are noted to be constellations of elven gods. The domains of the elven gods and the old gods are also remarkably similar, in some cases overlapping completely.

[Nykara]

Spoiler

Well, when you drink from the ELVEN well, it puts you under Mythal's thumb so to speak - Mythal is Flemeth. Mythal is an ancient Elven God. So there is your connection between the old gods and the Elven gods. Not to mention the Elves always talk about Dread Wolf, who is Solas. When Morrigan does the ritual she also mentions that the sole of the baby would be a 'old god' sole, the sole which is taken by Flemeth and then later transferred to Solas. All of this would suggest a connection between ALL the gods. It seems there was wars between the gods as well. I can see how Solas would be against you simply going and killing all of the old gods. They are all old gods.

[xJLxKing]

Anyone saying that Solas=Old God is thinking too far in

 

The old gods get corrupted by a touch from a blighted being, Solar/Flementh do not

[Precursor Meta]

That's a good question. To bad Mr. I Must-Be-Cryptic-For-No-Reason-Solas didn't bother to explain why. Ugh. Elven gods and their need to be oh so fricking mysterious and vague.

I blame the writers. When they reveal Something big, they want us to be surprised. But with no lead up or hints to the suprise, some people might feel a bit cheated due to a lack of info.

So they give us clues so we aren't completely left in the dark. Only problem is they make these clue vague as hell.

[Nykara]

Who is to say any blighted being touched Flemeth or Solas? Flemeth for one had Morrigan to do her bidding for her against the Darkspawn. I never saw Flemeth actually touch any of them.

[rapscallioness]

Even if Solas is not necessarily one of the Old Gods as we understand them. The idea that mortals may be able to storm the place and kill Old Gods--something on that level-- is "unnerving".

 

Because if they can do that, what's to stop them from taking out any "god" they want? They might be able to do anything they can imagine then.

 

I think the taste of it in his mouth was too much like Copper for his liking.

 

My thoughts about it at any rate.

[Mims]

Anyone saying that Solas=Old God is thinking too far in

 

The old gods get corrupted by a touch from a blighted being, Solar/Flementh do not

 

Solas does get corrupted by red lyrium in the alternate universe. Red lyrium is blight infected, so it stands to reason he and Flemeth are not above corruption. 

[leaguer of one]

I did finish the game and I know about Solas' true identity but I still don't see the correlation of the Elven gods being the old gods.

Did you do the dark ritual in dao?

[leaguer of one]

I blame the writers. When they reveal Something big, they want us to be surprised. But with no lead up or hints to the suprise, some people might feel a bit cheated due to a lack of info.

So they give us clues so we aren't completely left in the dark. Only problem is they make these clue vague as hell.

Why wouldn't it?