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[Merciless Soul]

As most people that played the entire Dragon Age series gone are the days of simply importing ones game saves. Now we are forced to use Dragon Age Keep. Is it just me or has bioware literally just back handed us all?

With that, I have to say this was the straw that broke the camel's back. I spent quite a while trying to create a perfect play throughs through all two games.I completed every mission, did every sidequest, and  chose a very specific romance for each of them. Now i have the option to upload my save to an editor? So..then what was the point of me playing all those hours?

Sure Dragon Age is superb series but the idiocy that permeates of having to use Dragon Age keep just really pissed me off. Really, I just do not get what Bioware was thinking while making it?

Also. Is anyone else really pissed off that they didn't put face codes in a game that should have them? It worked perfectly in Mass Effect 2. How hard would it be to release a patch that implemented them? I've lost count on how many times I've had to redo my elf or qunari character.

Now I've been mauling over the thought of petitioning them to implement the old way of importing saves and face codes. But wondering would they even listen? Seeing how Mass Effect  3 's ending was changed a little because a lot of people were pissed off about it maybe that could happen for DAI?

[Auztin]

To prevent import glitches & gives the ability for others to use their saves on new consoles.They can patch Keep anytime without waiting on certification from Sony or Microsoft.
Character creator is mostly positive besides hair styles but face codes are cool but not a needed thing.If you don't like it then move on.Catch you later on DA4 forums.

[StElmo]

Dragon Age keep is important to allow for cross platform save states and future proofing the series. Coding that kind of stuff to work across every platform is almost certainly unworkable given budgetary and time constraints. Not everything is going to be perfect in any game released, you can still play DA:I offline after the initial keep import, I think given the circumstances, the size of the company and the scale of the game, it's not out of place to see how they worked with the world state challenge.

I'm sorry to hear you are upset, if there is any consolation: if any black emporium style DLC comes out, I could foresee eventually being able to download save states/worldstates off a fansite at some point down the line, negating the need to use keep.

 

Peace

[Marakov7]

I absolutely love Dragon Age Keep, to me it's a great feature of DAI.

 

I've done many playthroughs of DAO and several of DA2...with the Keep I don't have to try to figure out what I did leading up to a particular ending save. My first DAI playthrough I went with my canon setup - Cousland Warden, romanced Morrigan, married Anora, went through the mirror with Morrigan...and then I went with a female Hawke (which I never actually finished) based on decisions my male Hawke did. Doing another DAI playthrough where the Warden didn't go through the mirror but stayed with Anora (because it was the "right" thing to do). Another playthrough, my Cousland Warden romanced Leliana, did the OGB shuffle with Morrigan, married Anora and didn't go through the mirror with Morrigan (Leliana was his mistress). Another has an elf Inquisitor with a Dalish Warden who went through the mirror with Morrigan, male Hawke...etc, etc. All this could be easily tweaked with the Keep...no need to ponder over which save to use for the import.

 

Works great for me. I guess that's the thing with various features in games like this...some people love them, others hate them, and others are indifferent.

[Octarin]

If that's the only thing that pissed you off, then you've got a long road ahead of you buddy. Keep it calm, is all I'll say. 

[DomeWing333]

So..then what was the point of me playing all those hours?

 

...fun? You know, like a game?

 

And if you didn't have any fun meticulously crafting "the perfect playthrough" over hundreds of hours, shouldn't you be glad for a system like the DA Keep that will now allow you to achieve the same results in less than one? Shouldn't your complain be "why didn't they have this sooner?" rather than "why do they have this at all?"

[Il Divo]

...fun? You know, like a game?

 

And if you didn't have any fun meticulously crafting "the perfect playthrough" over hundreds of hours, shouldn't you be glad for a system like the DA Keep that will now allow you to achieve the same results in less than one? Shouldn't your complain be "why didn't they have this sooner?" rather than "why do they have this at all?"

 

Pretty much this. I wish ME had something similar for all those players who accidentally deleted their save files. 

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

To prevent import glitches & gives the ability for others to use their saves on new consoles.They can patch Keep anytime without waiting on certification from Sony or Microsoft.
Character creator is mostly positive besides hair styles but face codes are cool but not a needed thing.If you don't like it then move on.Catch you later on DA4 forums.

Sweets ****** of Andraste!.. ahahahah you really got me with that considering DA Keep import bugs, such as Morrigan from Witch Hunt and few choices of Landsmeet. That. Is. ******. AWESOME LINE!

[KaiserShep]

I like how a system that allows me to import a world state even after I upgrade or migrate to a new platform is somehow backhanding us. Those fiends! We should give them such a pinch.

[Helmetto]

Sweets ****** of Andraste!.. ahahahah you really got me with that considering DA Keep import bugs, such as Morrigan from Witch Hunt and few choices of Landsmeet. That. Is. ******. AWESOME LINE!

 

In fairness, that's more an issue with the game than the Keep.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

In fairness, that's more an issue with the game than the Keep.

The point of inventing something? Solving present issues.

The point of inventing the Keep? Solving import issues.=> Does the Keep solve those? No. => Keep is a waste of time and resources, fifth wheel to a cranky wagon we have.

[Chardonney]

Pretty much this. I wish ME had something similar for all those players who accidentally deleted their save files. 

 

Not as detailed as Keep but... Genesis 2

[SardaukarElite]

Is it just me or has bioware literally just back handed us all?

 

Literally? No.

 

 

So..then what was the point of me playing all those hours?

 

If you need a better reason for playing a game than wanting to play, something has gone seriously wrong.

[KaiserShep]

The point of inventing something? Solving present issues.

The point of inventing the Keep? Solving import issues.=> Does the Keep solve those? No. => Keep is a waste of time and resources, fifth wheel to a cranky wagon we have.

It makes much more sense that the Keep's primary purpose is to allow players to keep their world states without having to be bound to any given platform. I have all three games on a PS3, but when I get a PS4, I don't have to concern myself with files on my PS3's hard drive, since it's all online.

[Kantr]

It's the game's fault not the keep. The keep works great

[Lee T]

I'm not the Bioware fan boy I once was and there are now many design decisions I simply do not understand, but the Keep seems like a fine idea.

On the plus side, it's a tool that enables cross-platform compatibility, it's a time saver when you don't feel like replaying the other games right now, and it's a usefull tool for those who no longer have access to their previous saves for various reasons.

On the downside, it's a web based system which is a source for new problem and the UI is, as far as I'm concerned, far from being user friendly (the tiles are good, the other menus are horrible).

The idea is fine, the tool could have been offline and incorporated in the game menus (even as an option), but it's a fine idea nonetheless.

[TheOgre]

I like how a system that allows me to import a world state even after I upgrade or migrate to a new platform is somehow backhanding us. Those fiends! We should give them such a pinch.

 

Hah, I almost didn't like because I felt bad for the OP >.>

[KaiserShep]

Well, it is the straw that broke the very angry camel's back as it were.

 

 

I'm not the Bioware fan boy I once was and there are now many design decisions I simply do not understand, but the Keep seems like a fine idea.

On the plus side, it's a tool that enables cross-platform compatibility, it's a time saver when you don't feel like replaying the other games right now, and it's a usefull tool for those who no longer have access to their previous saves for various reasons.

On the downside, it's a web based system which is a source for new problem and the UI is, as far as I'm concerned, far from being user friendly (the tiles are good, the other menus are horrible).

The idea is fine, the tool could have been offline and incorporated in the game menus (even as an option), but it's a fine idea nonetheless.

 

Yeah, the Keep's menu system could use some serious tweaking. I love the tiles, but I hate the menus. It almost makes me want a basic spreadsheet.

[keyip]

I could never get the Keep working to be honest. Luckily I found the choices in DA to not be as important as the choices in ME so I just loaded a default world. Pretty vexing though.

[xkg]

IMO it is a good concept, better than save game import which never worked all that well in the past.

But the way it is delivered is the problem. I see it for what it is - just another method to enforce more DRM on users.

 

There was nothing stopping them to built it in the game itself, instead of making it an on-line feature. In a few years if anyone deicide to replay the game - default world state will be the only choice.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The Keep doesn't work so well, but it's a step in the right direction. Give them some time to iron out the kinks.

 

Or stop playing. It sounds like it makes you mad, which is not the point of playing games.

[JackPoint]

I could never get the Keep working to be honest. Luckily I found the choices in DA to not be as important as the choices in ME so I just loaded a default world. Pretty vexing though.

Exactly, the choices in the keep you do do not matter one iota. they do not affect the game in inquisition and alot of them get cannoned by bioware, such as Leliana's death in DAO if you chose that option, is white washed out to suit the story bioware wrote. Mostly the choices you see in DAI are for cameo appearances that are of no consequence.

 

 

So thinking the Keep matters to DAi is a fantasy much bigger than you think.