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The fate of Hawke/the Warden and the Nightmare!


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What happens to Hawke or Stroud/Alistair/loghain if they remain in the Fade?
 
Whoever you leave behind in the fade might of course simply die.
 
However we should keep in mind that not only are they physically in the fade, but there is also an incredibly powerfull
demon here that might want to possess them!
 
Demons always seek to Reach the physical world, and while possessing a physical body that's in the fade
is not the same thing, it is still an oppertunity!
 
It says that whoever we leave behind in the fade will "likely" die, but whoever goes to Weisshaupt
will clearly also face some trouble,considering what we are told during the Epilogue.
This makes me think that either both will end up dead(seems unlikely to me) or both will "survive",
but surviving might just be worse than death.
 
I think we might end up having to fight whoever remains in the fade, possessed by the Nightmare, and
we'll have to put them down! :( Oh Hawke why did i leave you there?!...oh right, the emotional impact.
 


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He's dead, Jim.

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If you watch closely after leaving them behind, you'll see them fall in battle. It broke my heart to see my warrior Hawke taken down so easily and after only a few slashes of their blade.



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He's dead, Jim.

 

...Nooooo! :P



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If you watch closely after leaving them behind, you'll see them fall in battle. It broke my heart to see my warrior Hawke taken down so easily and after only a few slashes of their blade.

 

Yeah,but they could still end up being possessed. If their dead, their corpse could be possessed. Would be cool/disturbing to see Hawke's possessed corpse come walking towards you in an expansion/sequel.



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If you watch closely after leaving them behind, you'll see them fall in battle. It broke my heart to see my warrior Hawke taken down so easily and after only a few slashes of their blade.

Do they? I just played through the sequence again yesterday and left Stroud behind, and I didn't see him actually fall. 



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My Hawke has survived the fade before she can do it again. :)



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Do they? I just played through the sequence again yesterday and left Stroud behind, and I didn't see him actually fall. 

 

I saw Hawke kneel just before it faded to black. Doesn't guarantee he's dead though.


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Hawke deserves to die for whacking a giant monster with a staff.


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In old D&D games (showing my age) If you killed something on their plane of existence they were dead. :P All those demons on the material plane come back eventually. Maybe they have old schools like me who wrote that into the Nightmare demon. Same don't apply to mortals though, no matter how much I loved my Hawke I couldn't kill Alistair :(



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If I find out Hawke died in Weisshaupt and Stroud lived I will riot.

Then go to keep and alter DA reality.
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If I find out Hawke died in Weisshaupt and Stroud lived I will riot.

Then go to keep and alter DA reality.

 

That's abuse of godly power man! :P


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In old D&D games (showing my age) If you killed something on their plane of existence they were dead. :P All those demons on the material plane come back eventually. Maybe they have old schools like me who wrote that into the Nightmare demon. Same don't apply to mortals though, no matter how much I loved my Hawke I couldn't kill Alistair :(

 

Yeah maybe.

We didn't kill the nightmare though. We fought and killed an "Aspect of the nightmare", the nightmare itself was the monstrous spider that may or may not have killed hawke/a warden.

 

Alistair was king in my playthrough(thankfully) so my choice was between Hawke and Stroud! I still chose Hawke though,cause he seemed to really want to do this, and you know, emotional impact. :P



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When will the keep be functional to see your DA:I choices?



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I saw Hawke kneel just before it faded to black. Doesn't guarantee he's dead though.


I see what looks like a big spidery limb go through Stroud's torso.

None of these things have ever stopped Bioware from raising the dead though. Right Leliana?
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I thought the giant spider was an Easter egg of Ungoliant from Tolkien's Silmarillian Dang nabbit. I am really bad at finding real Easter Eggs in games.


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I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow lived. We'll see in DA4.


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They left themselves an out by saying 'may die'
I kind of hope they don't use it though.
A knight enchanter could have been taken nightmare demon though whilst the rest clapped politely drinking tea and eating scones.
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"

Yeah maybe.
We didn't kill the nightmare though. We fought and killed an "Aspect of the nightmare", the nightmare itself was the monstrous spider that may or may not have killed hawke/a warden.
 
Alistair was king in my playthrough(thankfully) so my choice was between Hawke and Stroud! I still chose Hawke though,cause he seemed to really want to do this, and you know, emotional impact. :P

intrestingly, when leliana asks about alistars death in the fade the inquisitor responds to something along the lines off ' i dont think they are dead..just stuck in the fade'

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Hawke is too badass to die!!!!!!! Especially Sarcastic Hawke!!!!!!

 

That being said according to the choice it said Hawke or the Warden will probably die, so don't be surprised if they appear in some form in the next game.


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Seeing that Hawke has a 50% chance of being left in the fade and a 100% guarantee of disappearing in weisshaupt who knows what they'll do to him/her.

 

There doesn't seem to be much outcry regarding Hawke being left in the fade. Maybe they'll leave that open-ended or whoever gets left behind in the fade becomes a vessal for the Nightmare



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" intrestingly, when leliana asks about alistars death in the fade the inquisitor responds to something along the lines off ' i dont think they are dead..just stuck in the fade'

 

Really? Interesting, yet another thing that indicates we'll see them again!


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Personally I am really hopeful Hawke is finished, never to return.
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I think all you can really say is that they left the door open by not definitively showing the person you leave behind dying.  Doesn't mean we'll ever see them again.  Just that they left open that possibility because... why not?



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After 90 hours of play, I finally reached this quest myself.  And after thinking I realized that it probably doesn't matter who you leave.  2 lines in the next game is all it needs

New PC - Hawke?!  I thought you disspeared into the fade/at Weisshaupt?

Hawke - (Diplomatic)I'm not actually sure/It's complicated, but we need to focus on the new big bad here right now(Sarcastic)I'm the Champion, nothing can hold me down man(Agressive)Mind your own buisness.

 

Or if you they want to give you an actual straight answer, then after the Inquisitor left the Warden/Hawke ran from the Nightmare.  And by coincidence found another rift to leave though, and through double coincidence that rift let him out at the gates of Weisshaupt.


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