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[Adielr]

I never played the previous titles. I'm glad I started fresh. Makes me appreciate Inquisition as a standalone game.

[N7 Spectre525]

And suddenly, DA2 became a good game and Hawke became a great protagonist. Times change.

 

When DA4 launches, it will be the time to DAI be the better game and the Inquisitor the better lead character.

 

(By the way, I liked DA2 and Hawke.)

Hawke was a great character stuck in a mediocre game. Male and Female Hawkes voice actors were also damn good.

[Melca36]

Dragon Age 2 Pros IMO.

 

1.) Blah blah better protagonist. Blah Hawke> Inquisitor.

 

2.)Better Side quests. 

 

3.)Interesting plot concept.

 

4.) More interesting companions, with better stories. Not all, but most.

 

5.) Really good DLC.

 

6.)pretty hard combat on Nightmare.

 

Dragon Age 2 Cons IMO.

 

1.) Dull main story. The plot concept was poorly excuted.

 

2.) Kirkwall was bland visually. Just a bunch of grey stone walls.

 

3.) Being the Champion of a city means almost nothing. You have very little power and become eveyones errand boy. It wasn't half as awesome as being a Grey Warden or a Spectre.

 

4.)Boring female romance option. The really interesting females were off limits I.E Bethany, Aveline, and Tallis.

 

 

Dragon Age Inquisition Pros IMO.

 

1.) Great graphics. Better visuals.

 

2.)Better romance options.

 

3.) What little main story there is, is really good.

 

4.) Fun crafting.

 

Dragon Age inquisition Cons IMO.

 

1.)Wasted villain.

 

2.) Dull protagonist.

 

3.) To much filler. They really went overboard.

 

4.) Main story is to short.

 

5.) Lazy handling of Hawke after Here Lies the Abyss .

 

6.) To much left unresolved by the end of the game. If upcoming DLC takes care of this I'll change my opinion .

 

 

 

You think DA2 has BETTER side quests?  PLEASE.  Finding an item and returning it to an NPC for some scant XP wasa freaking joke.

 

They were stupid and ridiculous.  Its a sad reflection on why games have to be dumbed down....people have become lazy.

[Melca36]

And suddenly, DA2 became a good game and Hawke became a great protagonist. Times change.

 

When DA4 launches, it will be the time to DAI be the better game and the Inquisitor the better lead character.

 

(By the way, I liked DA2 and Hawke.)

 

 

So true.   People are just mad because Inquisition has received far less rage than what DA2 got. I can't take half of the complaints seriously.

[rapscallioness]

That's a good analysis, though I loved female mage hawkes delivery in one particular argument with Carver.

I played the protective older brother warrior with my male Hawke, and that seemed to fit well for Bethany. But you're right that the two brothers at odds with each other is great too.

And yah, having Bethany sigh at her crazy older sisters antics is hilarious.

 

 

yeah, I know what you're talking about. it really was fantastic.

 

but the part that got me when i first played with a mage Hawke and Carver was when we recruited Fenris. Fenris starts trying to give Hawke mess about being a mage, etc. Carver and Hawke had just been fighting like cats and dogs--I thought jeez we're turning into Leandra and Gamlen!

 

But then Carver says to Fenris, "Hey, if you have a problem with my sister, then you have a problem with me." In that very Carver way. Was not expecting that. At all. It was a pretty cool moment for me.

[kyles3]

I agree with the thread title, if not the contents of the OP. DA:I is a better game overall, but DA2 definitely did some things better. Better story, better antagonists, more interesting protagonist. A lot of people hate the stuff I love about DA2, though, so what do I know?

 

I just hope the next game has an antagonist who poses a credible threat. The Inquisitor got way too comfy after getting to Skyhold and the story really flattened out. DA:O and DA2 did a good job of not turning into pure power-fantasy, but power-fantasy is what DA:I mostly felt like to me and I find that sort of thing boring.

[Nefla]

I think it's less nostalgia and more a combination of taking certain things as a given (such as companions being relevant and interactive during quests ex: Fenris squeezing people's hearts to make them talk, Varric making up cover stories for you, etc...) and people only complaining about the bad features/ features they don't like (reused maps for example) and not praising the things they did like. People are doing the same thing with inquisition and every other game.

[ERINII]

4.)Boring female romance option. The really interesting females were off limits I.E Bethany, Aveline, and Tallis.

 

 

Yeah, I really wanted that incest option too.

[luckybaer]

Isabella was amazing eye candy, though.

[Shaftell]

Lol it's funny how people are claiming that DA2 is some masterpiece all of a sudden... I was around when people were trashing DA2. Stay classy BSN...

[Morroian]

Lol it's funny how people are claiming that DA2 is some masterpiece all of a sudden... I was around when people were trashing DA2. Stay classy BSN...

 

Dont see anyone trying to claim it is a masterpiece.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

 

4.)Boring female romance option. The really interesting females were off limits I.E Bethany, Aveline, and Tallis.

 

[Dr. Rush]

DA2 was carried entirely by the companions. DAI companions were relatively weak in comparison but DAI didn't need to be carried by them because it wasn't as fundamentally flawed as a game as DA2 was. It is weird to think back at DA2 and think that there are things I'd rather have from that game than DAI. Never would have thought I'd be left missing DA2.

[ashlover mark 2]

You think DA2 has BETTER side quests?  PLEASE.  Finding an item and returning it to an NPC for some scant XP wasa freaking joke.

 

They were stupid and ridiculous.  Its a sad reflection on why games have to be dumbed down....people have become lazy.

That's one of the more shity examples of side quests. I'm talking about going into the deep roads and finding Nathaniel fighting hordes of darkspawn, or helping the crows and finding Zeveran in a cave. Or finding Keldar in those slaver ruins and deciding what to do with him. Inquisitions side quests have none of that and almost all them are worthless fetch quests.

[ashlover mark 2]

Bethany > Isabela and Merril. Fact.

[mbeckham]

Dragon Age 2 Pros IMO.

 

1.) Blah blah better protagonist. Blah Hawke> Inquisitor.

 

2.)Better Side quests. 

 

3.)Interesting plot concept.

 

4.) More interesting companions, with better stories. Not all, but most.

 

5.) Really good DLC.

 

6.)pretty hard combat on Nightmare.

 

Dragon Age 2 Cons IMO.

 

1.) Dull main story. The plot concept was poorly excuted.

 

2.) Kirkwall was bland visually. Just a bunch of grey stone walls.

 

3.) Being the Champion of a city means almost nothing. You have very little power and become eveyones errand boy. It wasn't half as awesome as being a Grey Warden or a Spectre.

 

4.)Boring female romance option. The really interesting females were off limits I.E Bethany, Aveline, and Tallis.

 

 

Dragon Age Inquisition Pros IMO.

 

1.) Great graphics. Better visuals.

 

2.)Better romance options.

 

3.) What little main story there is, is really good.

 

4.) Fun crafting.

 

Dragon Age inquisition Cons IMO.

 

1.)Wasted villain.

 

2.) Dull protagonist.

 

3.) To much filler. They really went overboard.

 

4.) Main story is to short.

 

5.) Lazy handling of Hawke after Here Lies the Abyss .

 

6.) To much left unresolved by the end of the game. If upcoming DLC takes care of this I'll change my opinion .

thought the companions in Inq were great, more developed side stories would have been nice.  Like three more stories the size of Abyss or Pride but not about Corephyus

[ashlover mark 2]

Yeah, I really wanted that incest option too.

Nah, I didn't want Hawke to romance Bethany, that's sick. I did wish they weren't related from time to time though.

[DreamingInTartarus]

I don't really understand the people who find the Inquisitor dull or boring (though I guess like any opinion it's entirely subjective). The Inquisitor can essentially be crafted into whatever you want them to be (though the VAs do limit that a bit) while the Warden isn't even that much of a character and with Hawke your essentially picking between a handful of presets that regardless of which one you choose, your gonna end up pigeon-holed at some point in the plot. Honestly, my Inquisitors are probably my favorite created protaganists in any game with my renegade femshep being the only thing comes remotely close.

[DreamingInTartarus]

DA2 was carried entirely by the companions. DAI companions were relatively weak in comparison but DAI didn't need to be carried by them because it wasn't as fundamentally flawed as a game as DA2 was. It is weird to think back at DA2 and think that there are things I'd rather have from that game than DAI. Never would have thought I'd be left missing DA2.

I agree with some of that, but I find it kind of crazy that you think DA2's cast was superior. Isabella and the Arishok were pretty great and Merrill and Aveline were alright but other than that, what was so likeable? I honestly find that cast pretty meh especially in comparison to Inquisition's. I can understand why some aren't completely wowed by Varric, Cole, Bull and Vivienne (though I think Vivi gets a bad rap by most), but Cass, Sera, Dorian, Solas and even Blackwall (another who gets a bad rap) are pretty damn fantastic. Even Leliana and Cullen receive pretty substantial improvements in Inquisition. Inquisition's biggest strength is it's characters.

[Aaleel]

I think peoples' opinions of the protagonist are affected by their opinions of the particular game as a whole.  Myself for example hated DA2, so I really never felt attached or close to Hawke, especially since I only played the game once.  I actually spent time thinking Hawke or Stroud in the Fade.

 

The other protagonists Warden (Can't even begin to count the number of playthroughs) and Inquisitor (on 3rd playthrough) I feel more attached to.  But I like and enjoy both the games far more for many reasons and I've played the protagonists more, and in more ways and trains of thought.

 

Same for the companions IMHO.   

[Vicious]

lmao, i knew DA2 would become good after DA:I came out

[DreamingInTartarus]

I think peoples' opinions of the protagonist are affected by their opinions of the particular game as a whole.  Myself for example hated DA2, so I really never felt attached or close to Hawke, especially since I only played the game once.  I actually spent time thinking Hawke or Stroud in the Fade.

 

The other protagonists Warden (Can't even begin to count the number of playthroughs) and Inquisitor (on 3rd playthrough) I feel more attached to.  But I like and enjoy both the games far more for many reasons and I've played the protagonists more, and in more ways and trains of thought.

 

Same for the companions IMHO.   

Pretty great post imo. I think you might be on to something as I didn't hate DA2 (I think it tried to do some interesting things, it just falied at it), but it's definitely my least favorite by far.

[Melca36]

I don't really understand the people who find the Inquisitor dull or boring (though I guess like any opinion it's entirely subjective). The Inquisitor can essentially be crafted into whatever you want them to be (though the VAs do limit that a bit) while the Warden isn't even that much of a character and with Hawke your essentially picking between a handful of presets that regardless of which one you choose, your gonna end up pigeon-holed at some point in the plot. Honestly, my Inquisitors are probably my favorite created protaganists in any game with my renegade femshep being the only thing comes remotely close.

Because a great many gamers in this day and age are lazy. They want everything instantly.

[katokires]

And suddenly, DA2 became a good game and Hawke became a great protagonist. Times change.

 

When DA4 launches, it will be the time to DAI be the better game and the Inquisitor the better lead character.

 

(By the way, I liked DA2 and Hawke.)

Of course, Bioware have been screwing games over since NWN, of course it will be worse. But since Obsidian made KOTOR2 and NWN2 saving both games, Bioware should perhaps give DA franchise to them, this abortion called Inquisition wouldn't have happened.

[DreamingInTartarus]

Because a great many gamers in this day and age are lazy. They want everything instantly.

If there's one thing that the reception of Inquisition has taught me it's that there isn't much consistency in the preference of how people role-play their characters in games. I always like to give my characters some sort of ambiguous backstory that's open to change in case there's something in the story that contradicts it. So essentially I draw the lines while the color comes in naturally. I think that's why the character creation in Inquisition has spoken to me so much. It lets me go in so many different directions with my characters without letting me steer off course and create something that wouldn't exist in DA lore. I was one of the ones after DA2 came out that wanted the series' next installment to bring back the origin stories, but after playing Inquisition I actually think even they would limit me a bit too much (though I do love the human and dwarven noble and the city elf storylines).This is why it kind of baffles me when people find the Inquisitor uninteresting when really all their doing is insulting their own lack of imagination.