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The Duel for Josephine


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#76
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I have completed the quest in regards to her family (basically, elevating the Du Paraquettes into Orlesian nobility) and I even found the Montilyet family crest. However, the conversation that leads to the duel is not triggering for me. Do I have to complete a specific main quest?


You need at least one of the two MQs.

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Very well, I'll probably try saving the Wardens then. :)



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Yeah, forgot to mention you need to have progressed until a certain point in the main quest.

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Did I ever say that the romance doesn't work? All I said is that this subject should have been brought up in the romance arc. The issue with a non-human inquisitor was handled well enough - Thedas didn't accept them right away, they had to put some effort into winning hearts and minds.

 

I didn't say that you did. I was just using your post as a jumping point. I also agreed with you about the race/sexuality issue not being brought up enough (in general) It was touched on but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment. And honestly I didn't see much in the way of a special struggle for a Qunari inquisitor. Thedas doesn't accept any inquisitor right away. However, from the moment you reach Haven, you have pretty much an entire village willing to believe that a Qunari was graced by Andraste without regard to their race or belief (no matter that you were thought to be the murderer of the Divine not long before). One can argue that that's the most unrealistic part of the game. Not me, personally, since I'm not looking for realism in a fantasy game about dragons and spirits who can become people.

 

 

The way I see it, having children isn't an absolute necessity for the nobles, but is strongly recommended, because appointing an heir becomes a lot more complicated otherwise.

 

So we're in agreement? The major point of my post was that marrying and producing heirs is not mandatory, as a rule, even if it is strongly encouraged or forced in some instances. Obviously it's important to many, but that doesn't mean everyone does it or has to. And even Dorian's father might have cut him some slack if he had other sons who might take his place as heir. Dorian is the only child, so you can imagine his father was desperate to keep their house alive.

 

Also, since Josephine's family appoints their heirs as a rule, her marrying and producing, what would essentially be, another candidate to choose from isn't necessary at all. And, as you noted, too many candidates could become dangerous. But either way, what's necessary for House Pavus isn't necessary for House Montilyet. Taking all that into consideration, as well as the fact that we don't know that much if anything about Antiva when it comes to race/sexuality, it's a stretch for anyone to say that her family reputation will suffer simply because she's involved with a female/Qunari/elf.

 

Especially when you have evidence that shows the Inquisitor's influence/power, regardless of origin or gender, literally helps to elevate the House Montilyet back to the status it had before. It's more likely that they'll benefit from being connected to such a powerful figure through Josephine. 



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Im not so sure about that tbh, her romance plays out like a M/F relationship & the duel doesn't really make sense for anyone other then the male human noble considering how marriage works in Thedas, i honestly thought Cassandra acted more like the bi choice then Josephine

That's a matter of perspective that's really wholly dependent on your ideas about gender roles.

 

And, as someone mentioned, the duel isn't for her hand.

 

It's literally a quick attempt to nullify yet another contract drawn up without her knowledge or her say. But instead of a hit, it's a marriage contract.



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I didn't say that you did. I was just using your post as a jumping point. I also agreed with you about the race/sexuality issue not being brought up enough (in general) It was touched on but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment. 

Must have missed it. My bad. 

 

 

So we're in agreement? The major point of my post was that marrying and producing heirs is not mandatory, as a rule, even if it is strongly encouraged or forced in some instances. 

Looks like it. Got a bit carried away in my post.

 

 

Especially when you have evidence that shows the Inquisitor's influence/power, regardless of origin or gender, literally helps to elevate the House Montilyet back to the status it had before. It's more likely that they'll benefit from being connected to such a powerful figure through Josephine. 

And I totally forgot about that. Yeah, they probably wouldn't mind this union, if only out of gratefulness for restoring their status. Alright, I yield  :P


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I think you trigger the engagement quest by getting her the Montilyet family crest. I hadn't done Wicked Hearts yet when I got it.

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I liked it, but I had this playing in my head while the Inquisitor and Antivan dueled:

 

 

It became epic.



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Still disappointed that in the scene in your room later. I would have loved to see her with my jewelled shirt partly unbuttoned and her hair down. She is too controlled all the time, show me that she can let go.

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Still disappointed that in the scene in your room later. I would have loved to see her with my jewelled shirt partly unbuttoned and her hair down. She is too controlled all the time, show me that she can let go.

The hair down would be nice, but I'm thankful both were fully clothed. 


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The hair down would be nice, but I'm thankful both were fully clothed. 

nothing screams "intimate moment" like the equivalent of a business suit


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nothing screams "intimate moment" like the equivalent of a business suit

emotional intimacy=/=physical intimacy.

 

Not that they can't both occur at once, but one does not require the other.


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emotional intimacy=/=physical intimacy.

 

Not that they can't both occur at once, but one does not require the other.

they are sitting in front of a fireplace at night, not the time for business dress


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The inquisitor is wearing pyjamas though, so thats appropriate  :D


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