How many abomination have you see in Dragon age inquisition with all the apostates there are?
Hawke and Brethany are abominations?
What about Morrigan?
Ignoring fact that inquisition ignored topic as it never existed i saw a lot of them in series.
And what does that have to do with anything, that Hawke and Bethany didn't became abomnations (at least yet) doesn't mean they can't and they won't same for any other mage....
Ignoring fact that inquisition ignored topic as it never existed i saw a lot of them in series.
And what does that have to do with anything, that Hawke and Bethany didn't became abomnations (at least yet) doesn't mean they can't and they won't same for any other mage....
If the security is the most important why not kill every mage?The chantry uses the mage only when they are necesary to the world (The blight, Wars, heal people, etc).They are people, not an object
Well i wonder that myself, chantry was way too soft for my taste. 
Mages in first are reason why world have to deal with blight and considering chantry gave them protection from folks that were demolishing them before circle and still would be if they weren't protected by templars and that chantry have to put up with disaster they constantly cause ,i don't see how it is bad they give at least something in return.
So are criminals ,sick and mentally ill and yet they are separated from rest society because they pose threat to it.
If the security is the most important why not kill every mage?The chantry uses the mage only when they are necesary to the world (The blight, Wars, heal people, etc).
Try to take a second to think about why what you just said makes no sense. If it helps, I cut out the bits where you aren't contradicting yourself.
Try to take a second to think about why what you just said makes no sense. If it helps, I cut out the bits where you aren't contradicting yourself.
I'm not contradicting me, if the security is the most important thing in the world they must be killed, not prisoners.
The chantry want slaves, not "protect the mages and people".
Where am I denying the mages should be free?
I'm just saying the solution to the "safety" from what all are talking about.
Well i wonder that myself, chantry was way too soft for my taste.
Mages in first are reason why world have to deal with blight and considering chantry gave them protection from folks that were demolishing them before circle and still would be if they weren't protected by templars and that chantry have to put up with disaster they constantly cause ,i don't see how it is bad they give at least something in return.
So are criminals ,sick and mentally ill and yet they are separated from rest society because they pose threat to it.
Why compare a poor kid who can make fire with a psychopath?
If we talk about history, we should put in a tower all people from Germany.
For security of course, i don't want another hitler in this world.
I'm not contradicting me, if the security is the most important thing in the world they must be killed, not prisoners.
The chantry want slaves, not "protect the mages and people".Where am I denying the mages should be free?
I'm just saying the solution to the "safety" from what all are talking about.
You're right, I apologize. "Answering your own question" would be more accurate.
Seriously. You say in one line "Why doesn't the Chantry just kill them all" and then in the next you point out that they're necessary. Why they're not dead should be fairly obvious. If abominations are a security risk, so are the Qunari, the Tevinter and the darkspawn. All of whom have their own mages. Even if security was the only concern, and the Chantry was entirely concerned with that (and we see some minor hints that it's not the be-all-end-all of what the Chantry is concerned about scattered here and there) the mages are needed.
I'm not contradicting me, if the security is the most important thing in the world they must be killed, not prisoners.
The chantry want slaves, not "protect the mages and people".Where am I denying the mages should be free?
I'm just saying the solution to the "safety" from what all are talking about.
Mages aren't slaves even devs said that after all i don't recall chantry forcing them to do any work for them.Simple chantry was too soft and tried to be nice for mages while also maintaining safety , pretty much same reason why criminals are locked in prisons in modern times instead just bullet in the head.
Why compare a poor kid who can make fire with a psychopath?
If we talk about history, we should put in a tower all people from Germany.
For security of course, i don't want another hitler in this world.
And why assume i was talking only about psychopaths?
Criminals and mentally ill doesn't mean person is psychopath, there is no real world equivalent of mages (as they far greater threat) ,but pretty much that other people are separated from society and locked up because they are threat for society and people is nothing more than fact
Now you are jumping all over places person like Hitler pretty much can be born in any country (nor hitler was threat for human kind) and i already said why locking all humans would serve no point.
You're right, I apologize. "Answering your own question" would be more accurate.
Seriously. You say in one line "Why doesn't the Chantry just kill them all" and then in the next you point out that they're necessary. Why they're not dead should be fairly obvious. If abominations are a security risk, so are the Qunari, the Tevinter and the darkspawn. All of whom have their own mages. Even if security was the only concern, and the Chantry was entirely concerned with that (and we see some minor hints that it's not the be-all-end-all of what the Chantry is concerned about scattered here and there) the mages are needed.
They aren't necessary in first place ,save for perhaps preparing joining what would require small number of mages kept alive.As far they cause far more problems than they solve.
If we talk about history, we should put in a tower all people from Germany.
For security of course, i don't want another hitler in this world.
The biggest success of Austrian diplomacy was to convince the rest of the world that Beethoven was Austrian and Hitler was German...
@Arshei:
Could you please summarise in some consistent way what are you trying to say about the mages?
The biggest success of Austrian diplomacy was to convince the rest of the world that Beethoven was Austrian and Hitler was German...
@Arshei:
Could you please summarise in some consistent way what are you trying to say about the mages?
The mages should be free, not prisoners.
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword. If Vivienne hate so much the magic, she should become a tranquil.
This all hate to the magic is just envy 
The mages should be free, not prisoners.
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword. If Vivienne hate so much the magic, she should become a tranquil.This all hate to the magic is just envy
Unless sword can cause blight your statement is obviously false and it is. Viviene from what i know doesn't hate magic only acknowledges obvious that mages are dangerous.
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword.
And a nuclear bomb isn't more dangerous than a Swiss knife. I get it. Have a nice day.
And a nuclear bomb isn't more dangerous than a Swiss knife. I get it. Have a nice day.
It is known. Hitler had easy access to Swiss knives, but you never saw innocent nuclear bombs get involved with him!
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword
So... you think for born with magic you have to be a prisioner?
Like the black people in the real life?
Of course every mage use blood magic, oh wait... Isn't fair be a prisoner for how you're born.
Then you deny the holocaust?
Not for being a jew you must be killed.
If we talk about history, we should put in a tower all people from Germany.
For security of course, i don't want another hitler in this world.
Are all of Arshei's arguments poorly thought out analogies?
I'm not sure yet. But this thread was rather underperforming on it's Godwin's Law quota anyway.
The mages should be free, not prisoners.
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword. If Vivienne hate so much the magic, she should become a tranquil.This all hate to the magic is just envy
Vivienne grew up embracing the Circle and the Chantry's beliefs too tightly. She has some valid points about the dangers of magic. But Cassandra's personal discovery on Seeker history proved their institutions had become flawed over the centuries.
I think Bioware will continue to push this discourse into future games and reveal more secrets about the nature of magic.
No where its stated that the Avvars cant get possesed, the Sky Horror is a example of Avvar abomination.Mundane humans don't need to be monitored for becoming abominations. (And neither do Avvar, apparently, so they get a pass too. As nervous as I am about granting those.) If you've forgotten: I said the mage doesn't have to choose to be dangerous. Most people do.
Besides which the Tower really is meant to keep the mages away from the general population, which means that locking all humans in them is a bit counterproductive.
For the same reason the sick person can't be free. The mage is dangerous whether or not he/she wants to be.
Wait...What? That's not the same at all. And the list pages I argued was about the issues of random possession are bs.
The mages should be free, not prisoners.
The magic isn't more dangerous than a sword. If Vivienne hate so much the magic, she should become a tranquil.This all hate to the magic is just envy
But magic is more dangerous that the sword.
The argument should be Mages aren't the center of the dangers of magic and putting them in the circle does nothing to protect the world from magic.
Unless sword can cause blight your statement is obviously false and it is. Viviene from what i know doesn't hate magic only acknowledges obvious that mages are dangerous.
First of all, even the dwarves say that the magisters casing the blight is bs.
But magic is more dangerous that the sword.
The argument should be Mages aren't the center of the dangers of magic and putting them in the circle does nothing to protect the world from magic.
Pretty sure it does considering that circle and templars are only thing that stands between abomnation and world , avoiding it protects from mages unleashing their horrors upon the world.
First of all, even the dwarves say that the magisters casing the blight is bs.
Where they say that?
Pretty sure it does considering that circle and templars are only thing that stands between abomnation and world , avoiding it protects from mages unleashing their horrors upon the world.
Where they say that?
1. Bs. A tower does nothing. All it take is for a demon to get to a dreamer and then nothing can stop the abomination from getting out. It's just makeing a time bomb for know reason. As I said before the Avvar show mages can be managed with sticking them in a tower. Issues of random possession is bs. Controlling mages does not control magic.
2.The decent dlc lore for one.
No where its stated that the Avvars cant get possesed, the Sky Horror is a example of Avvar abomination.
1. The avvar mages are possessed, that how they learn magic.
2. The sky horrror is a control abomination. It's not out and about attacking people at random.
3.Any issue with the avvar and possessions like this is if it's intentional with malevolent intent.
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