why don't prison all germans?
Lol, why would you do that, Germans nice folks.
Use the right term "Nazis".
Am not trying to turn this into political stuff, but this was the second time you mention Germans as if they are god knows what "not nice".
Judging by your logic we'll drag every race that ever created empires and lock em up in a tower.
Hope no one replies to me, and you get the message.
You know what? If everything about my personality stayed and the only difference would be that I'd be born with magic, I would gladly go to some Circle tower and preferably to be made Tranquil.
But that is so... boring, where is the exciting thing of your life?
So, you're the abomination normal people can't defend themselves against. If it helps, the fact that those need to be put down doesn't mean I don't empathize with them.
But not all mages are dangerous, why Vivianne can be free?, she is very dangerous to the people, her "My dear" kills me inside, how a horrible person can be free and for example, Niall live and die in the circle?
Lol, why would you do that, Germans nice folks.
Use the right term "Nazis".
Am not trying to turn this into political stuff, but this was the second time you mention Germans as if they are god knows what "not nice".
Judging by your logic we'll drag every race that ever created empires and lock em up in a tower.
Hope no one replies to me, and you get the message.
I meant that if we blame the mages for its "history", why not do it with the Germans?
Or is fair kill all german because a german was a murderer?
An assumption. We don't have the information to be able to tell whether or not Rivain has more or less abominations than those nations that at least try and enforce Chantry law (by that I specifically mean Fereldan, Orlais, possibly Antiva and some of the Free Marches).
And what of the Avvar? Don't they state outright that the spirits they worship keep demons away? Perhaps everyone should just adopt the Avvar philosophy, then we wouldn't have abominations.
We have Word Of Gaider that Rivain just puts up with abominations, and that anyone who doesn't consider them a fact of life probably supports the Circle. If it's not stated that there are more abominations in Rivain, it's implied.
The Avvar found spirits that can be trusted to do that. Trying to find other spirits that can be trusted to seems to me that it might be risky. The very first "benevolent" Fade dwellers a Mage Warden meets are a Pride Demon in disguise who wants to trick you into being possessed and a Valor Spirit who wants to fight you to the death.
But not all mages are dangerous, why Vivianne can be free?, she is very dangerous to the people, her "My dear" kills me inside, how a horrible person can be free and for example, Niall live and die in the circle?
She's less "safe" than "a calculated risk." And you'll note she doesn't go killing people in the street.
I swear, divine leliana's ending could never backfire and pro Templars would still argue against it.
Lol those who defend Vivienne's view of point are not entirely pro-Templars, mind you.
An Arcane Horror is a abomination.It's not an abomination it's an Arcane Horror, that's an undead. And as a guardian I think it's fine. Don't screw with people's religious shrines and nothing happens. Notice you actually had to fiddle with the shrine for the Sky Horror to come out an play? It's really no different then the shrine having a spell that sets anyone who fiddles with it on fire
You can touch the shrine all you want, its just a book that release the abomination. And people who pick up a book in the middle of florest deserves to die?Really, so it is attack people who don't touch the shrine?
Ofc it exist, still they need to be there.Surely you would love if you born with magic, be imprisoned in a tower far from the world.
The empathy doesn't exist?
But that is so... boring, where is the exciting thing of your life?
I swear, divine leliana's ending could never backfire and pro Templars would still argue against it.
I'm half convinced it's going to backfire. But if it doesn't, hey why not?
Do you really think that the majority of the people in the feudal system had a exciting life?
I'm sure they prayed not to.
1. Was not talking about the victeim. I'm taking about themselves and other being, human or spirit. The fact is all the thing a mage or normal person needs to get to the fade an abomination can skip over with themselves and others. That would mean a dreamer abomination can do it even better. An abomintion does not need to keep their body outside the fade or is forced to it powerful enough like the Baroness.
2.But the blight was not caused by mages. The fact Cory tells you what happen means it's not the fault for mages.
1.So? Anyone can send themselves and someone to the fade if they know the way normal mages can do that with lyrium or blood magic , first sends you to the fade as well.You pretty much have 0 evidence of dreamer abomnation not having a body and jump from one thing to another.Yes abomination needs body outside the fade as in first place abomnation is possessed mage, it was pride demon that took baroness form pretty much as we saw with Justinia.
2.It was caused by mages once again they are one who brought taint to thedas so yes it is mages fault and once again corypheus pretty much is prove of that.
Do you really think that the majority of the people in the feudal system had a exciting life?
You are telling me the people in the feudal system aren't mages and knight who fight to rescue a princess from a tower, killing dragons and monster in the way?
What a mis!
She's less "safe" than "a calculated risk." And you'll note she doesn't go killing people in the street.
Well...
I'm just going to defend Fiona here and say that she never said she didn't think compromise was possible. Anders certainly didn't but Fiona never expressed that sentiment.
I certainly did get that impression from Asunder. 
But that is so... boring, where is the exciting thing of your life?
The other alternative would be living in fear that I might accidentally hurt someone. Plus everyone around would be afraid of me. Compared to that, boring is totally acceptable.
I'm going to repeat me again: a abomination in a random shrine in the middle of a forest is not reasonable.
In fact, a abomination is not reasonable in any place.
At the time it was place there it was not a random shrine. Just like the pyramids was not a random building. Or stone hedge are not random blocks.
Well... *image snipped*
I imagine this is a screenshot from right before she kills him? See, I didn't get that scene because I said "do with him what you will" and it turns out her natural reaction to this is to verbally destroy him. She takes some cheap shots, but he's not dead at the end. And even if "do with him what you will" turned out to be burning his balls off and letting him die of the infection, you can't say this is the same as randomly killing people in the streets. He tried to kill the person she wanted an alliance with, at a party designed to facilitate that alliance.
I certainly did get that impression from Asunder.
The other alternative would be living in fear that I might accidentally hurt someone. Plus everyone around would be afraid of me. Compared to that, boring is totally acceptable.
It seems more funny
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We have Word Of Gaider that Rivain just puts up with abominations, and that anyone who doesn't consider them a fact of life probably supports the Circle. If it's not stated that there are more abominations in Rivain, it's implied.
The Avvar found spirits that can be trusted to do that. Trying to find other spirits that can be trusted to seems to me that it might be risky. The very first "benevolent" Fade dwellers a Mage Warden meets are a Pride Demon in disguise who wants to trick you into being possessed and a Valor Spirit who wants to fight you to the death.
It's not hard to do find trusting spirits. Spirits are based on ideals and emotion. It not hard to know what a pride demon,a sloth demon, or lust demon is.
It's not hard to do find trusting spirits. Spirits are based on ideals and emotion. It not hard to know what a pride demon,a sloth demon, or lust demon is.
See also: pride demon in disguise.
1.So? Anyone can send themselves and someone to the fade if they know the way normal mages can do that with lyrium or blood magic , first sends you to the fade as well.You pretty much have 0 evidence of dreamer abomnation not having a body and jump from one thing to another.Yes abomination needs body outside the fade as in first place abomnation is possessed mage, it was pride demon that took baroness form pretty much as we saw with Justinia.
2.It was caused by mages once again they are one who brought taint to thedas so yes it is mages fault and once again corypheus pretty much is prove of that.
1. Then where the barnesses body then? She as an abomintion crossed into the fade for years and exsisted when her body was long gone. A random abomination can do it but a dreamer abomintion some how can't?
2. It was reopen by mages again. And even then anyone could of done it as well. Even the dwarves could of been tricked into it. Point is it's not the fault of all mages nor is the problem from mages.
See also: pride demon in disguise.
They need a copy of a host to do that and most of them do it from the fade. Added, a well train mage can see that from a mile away. That is the entire point of the harrowing is it not?
1. Then where the barnesses body then? She as an abomintion crossed into the fade for years and exsisted when her body was long gone. A random abomination can do it but a dreamer abomintion some how can't?
Justice's dialogue seems to more support her being replaced by a Pride Demon, rather than being possessed by or transformed into one. If it wasn't obvious at first, it certainly is now that Cole and the Avvar ceremony to gain new gods has demonstrated that such things happen.
You can touch the shrine all you want, its just a book that release the abomination. And people who pick up a book in the middle of florest deserves to die?
Well the point of the trap is to make sure people don't take the book...
Regardless, it is clearly under control being that it's not free and attacking people under normal events.
Also part of the problem is that the "Circles or no Circles" debate is also inextricably tied into religious faith. Different faith groups have different practices when it comes to dealing with magic and those who can use it, and there is little sense arguing with the religious mindset.
Thing is, we've never seen what happens when mages are treated like regular people. The three systems in Thedas that deal with it are: Tevinter, practically worshiping powerful mages; the Qunari, who leash and abuse mages (with their consent), and the Andrastians, who are closer to the Qunari than they like to claim.
And Tevinter isn't ruled by mages because they're mages: It's ruled by them because they're members of the nobility and always have been. It's a semantic difference, but it isn't much different than Orlais when push comes to shove. The mages of southern Thedas will never become like the magisters because they come from all different walks of life (but most of them commoners), and don't have the political backing or lineage to really rule over anything legally(without demonic intervention, anyway). The only exception to this is, of course: Vivienne. And she got there by sleeping around and intimidating everyone. Not exactly the Chantry's "Poster-Mage," for all that she likes to claim otherwise.
Justice's dialogue seems to more support her being replaced by a Pride Demon, rather than being possessed by or transformed into one. If it wasn't obvious at first, it certainly is now that Cole and the Avvar ceremony to gain new gods has demonstrated that such things happen.
Nope.
http://dragonage.wik...le_abominations
They need a copy of a host to do that and most of them do it from the fade. Added, a well train mage can see that from a mile away. That is the entire point of the harrowing is it not?
I don't think we actually know how that works. Though at any rate, the only reason the Mage Warden sees through it is because the demon asks something inconsistent with the mage's goals and the Warden realized that. If the Pride Demon wants to masquerade as Korth The Mountain-Father Tenth of His Name, all he would need to ask for is a ticket through the Veil.
You know what? If everything about my personality stayed and the only difference would be that I'd be born with magic, I would gladly go to some Circle tower and preferably to be made Tranquil.
And will you disown the giver? Or spurn His gift, and count it a misfortune?
That's what the wiki says, but I think that it's wrong.
And what of the Avvar? Don't they state outright that the spirits they worship keep demons away? Perhaps everyone should just adopt the Avvar philosophy, then we wouldn't have abominations.
It's like I been saying that fro the past 50 page or something.
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