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[leaguer of one]

That's what the wiki says, but I think that it's wrong.

It's not. Even her character bio says she is an abomination. Sorry, but she is an abomination.

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. Then where the barnesses body then? She as an abomintion crossed into the fade for years and exsisted when her body was long gone. A random abomination can do it but a dreamer abomintion some how can't?

 

2. It was reopen by mages again. And even then anyone could of done it as well. Even the dwarves could of been tricked into it. Point is it's not the fault of all mages nor is the problem from mages.

1.I don't know burned when folks set her mansion on fire? She isn't an abomnation... she is pride demon that crossed veil because she managed sundered fade thanks to blood magic and sacrificing living person.

 

2. Once again you speak without any proof of origin of taint, and of course non-mage could have enter physically to the fade by oh i don't know throwing a sandwich? You are speaking so much bs that it hurts.  

[leaguer of one]

I don't think we actually know how that works. Though at any rate, the only reason the Mage Warden sees through it is because the demon asks something inconsistent with the mage's goals and the Warden realized that. If the Pride Demon wants to masquerade as Korth The Mountain-Father Tenth of His Name, all he would need to ask for is a ticket through the Veil.

And yet the benevolent spirit protect them form that anyway. 

[Boost32]

Well the point of the trap is to make sure people don't take the book...
Regardless, it is clearly under control being that it's not free and attacking people under normal events.

You and me have a very different opinion of the meaning of "under control".

At the time it was place there it was not a random shrine. Just like the pyramids was not a random building. Or stone hedge are not random blocks.

And people who don't know it deserve to die? If you think they do, I disagree.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

It's not. Even her character bio says she is an abomination. Sorry, but she is an abomination.

You mean the one on the wiki, or a more official one Bioware itself set up? Like on their own website, or in WoT?

 

 

And yet the benevolent spirit protect them form that anyway. 

The Avvar can count on that. Someone else trying to imitate them not so much.

[leaguer of one]

1.I don't know burned when folks set her mansion on fire? She isn't an abomnation... she is pride demon that crossed veil because she managed sundered fade thanks to blood magic and sacrificing living person.

 

2. Once again you speak without any proof of origin of taint, and of course non-mage could have enter physically to the fade by oh i don't know throwing a sandwich? You are speaking so much bs that it hurts.

1. Agein...Nope.

http://dragonage.wik...le_abominations

Try again.

 

2. No proof?

• "The light. We sought the golden light. You offered... the power of the gods themselves. But it was... black... corrupt. Darkness... ever since. How long?"
• "The City. It was supposed to be golden. It was supposed to be ours."
• -Corypheus

[Barquiel]

I certainly did get that impression from Asunder. 

Because Lambert was unwilling to make any compromises. The tranquility cure for example was a perfectly reasonable request considering that mages were illegally made tranquil in circles like Kirkwall.

[Boost32]

You are telling me the people in the feudal system aren't mages and knight who fight to rescue a princess from a tower, killing dragons and monster in the way?
What a mis!

Them stop writing things like "where the excitement of their lives".

[leaguer of one]

You and me have a very different opinion of the meaning of "under control".
And people who don't know it deserve to die? If you think they do, I disagree.

1.http://dictionary.re.../browse/control

control. to exercise restraint or direction over; dominate; command

 

Trapping it in s shrine does not mean this? heck, it does not even attack the avvar that come up when it's awaken.

 

2.Well,  just because there is a limit to informing people of it does not mean is not being controlled.

[Arshei]

That fight...

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

1. Agein...Nope.

http://dragonage.wik...le_abominations

Try again.

 

2. No proof?

• "The light. We sought the golden light. You offered... the power of the gods themselves. But it was... black... corrupt. Darkness... ever since. How long?"
• "The City. It was supposed to be golden. It was supposed to be ours."
• -Corypheus

 

 

This wiki is non-offical source of information, it is created by fans anyone can edit page hell for good time you could have read that leliana had elven blood especially there is not even a source on that given.

 

From what i see he is talking about color of the city when he got there nothing more so pretty much when he reached city it was black.

[Arshei]

Them stop writing things like "where the excitement of their lives".

 

You are who consider sacrifice yourself for the good of all.

This altruism is a crime for the survival

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

You are who consider sacrifice himself for the good of all.

This altruism is a crime for the survival

... What?

[leaguer of one]

You mean the one on the wiki, or a more official one Bioware itself set up? Like on their own website, or in WoT?

 

 

The Avvar can count on that. Someone else trying to imitate them not so much.

Wot thedus does not cover the events of the black marsh. So you can't used that to try and discredit the wiki.

[Arshei]

... What?

 

I am terrible at english as Vivianne is terrible with other people   

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Wot thedus does not cover the events of the black marsh. So you can't used that to try and discredit the wiki.

Nor can you use the wiki as a be-all-end-all. It's based on others interpretation of canon, and unless Bioware comes down on its side I'm willing to believe that the editors could have gotten it wrong.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I am terrible at english as Vivianne is terrible with other people 

Considering that Vivienne managed to bag a duke and get along with his wife, I should have asked you to write my Romance Literature final paper.

[leaguer of one]

This wiki is non-offical source of information, it is created by fans anyone can edit page hell for good time you could have read that leliana had elven blood especially there is not even a source on that given.

 

From what i see he is talking about color of the city when he got there nothing more so pretty much when he reached city it was black.

1. Sorry but no. It's too maticulusly cover to have errors being they only allow fact in with scources. And baseless info is quickly edited out. And her being an abomination has a source.

 

2. That not color he's talking about. Saying it was corrupted  is not a color. Added he is even clear in dai.

https://youtu.be/VdOqLIDJa6s?t=183

 

At 3:03

[leaguer of one]

Nor can you use the wiki as a be-all-end-all. It's based on others interpretation of canon, and unless Bioware comes down on its side I'm willing to believe that the editors could have gotten it wrong.

Except for the fact it shows it in game. What in the game is not open to interpretation.

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. Sorry but no. It's too maticulusly cover to have errors being they only allow fact in with scources. And baseless info is quickly edited out. And her being an abomination has a source.

 

2. That not color he's talking about. Saying it was corrupted  is not a color. Added he is even clear in dai.

https://youtu.be/VdOqLIDJa6s?t=183

 

At 3:03

plase share with source then because i don't see source there so sorry but yes.

 

He is saying that citty was black and corrupt when he got there once again doesn't defies chantry part about maker cursing them with blight once they got there...  

 

 

Except for the fact it shows it in game. What in the game is not open to interpretation.

Show me please where it is said she is an abomnation in the game

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Except for the fact it shows it in game. What in the game is not open to interpretation.

Yes, actually it is. By design in many cases. And in this case the abomination page on the wiki is written by those who interpret what happened as the Baroness becoming possessed, while her own page states that she became one. I personally think both are wrong, since "There was such a mortal once, but now? That is a demon of pride"  seems to suggest that the demon and the Baroness aren't in any way the same creature. This confused me until I read about her on the same thread I read about the Avvar god replacement ritual on. That helped.

[leaguer of one]

plase share with source then because i don't see source there so sorry but yes.

 

He is saying that citty was black and corrupt when he got there once again doesn't defies chantry part about maker cursing them with blight once they got there...

 

 

Show me please where it is said she is an abomnation in the game

1.You cleary did not watch the video I posted. Watch it. at 3:03. He give an even clearer description of what he saw.

https://youtu.be/VdOqLIDJa6s?t=183

 

2. In the quest details of Shadows of the Blackmarsh

[leaguer of one]

Yes, actually it is. By design in many cases. And in this case the abomination page on the wiki is written by those who interpret what happened as the Baroness becoming possessed, while her own page states that she became one. I personally think both are wrong, since "There was such a mortal once, but now? That is a demon of pride"  seems to suggest that the demon and the Baroness aren't in any way the same creature. This confused me until I read about her on the same thread I read about the Avvar god replacement ritual on. That helped.

No, it's written by people who read the quest log in the game during that quest.

[TheKomandorShepard]

1.You cleary did not watch the video I posted. Watch it. at 3:03. He give an even clearer description of what he saw.

https://youtu.be/VdOqLIDJa6s?t=183

 

2. In the quest details of Shadows of the Blackmarsh

<Facepalm> he says he found in the fade only chaos and corruption how exactly that defies thing i have said? 

 

I would like link or screenshot of that saying she is an abomnation

 

 

No, it's written by people who read the quest log in the game during that quest.

As above.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

No, it's written by people who read the quest log in the game during that quest.

The quest log doesn't seem to have listened to Justice's dialogue and taken it in context with what happened with Cole, the Avvar gods who needed replacing, and Mouse.