I really liked Kieran's scenes in DAI. But I still think Redeemer is the best ending for DAO
Sacrifice or Dark Ritual?
#53
Posté 13 mai 2015 - 07:26
I really liked Kieran's scenes in DAI. But I still think Redeemer is the best ending for DAO
this is my personal ending love it.
Clear solution 0 gamble and one man redeemed,
#54
Posté 13 mai 2015 - 02:04
Wardens should die as Wardens do.
With soul overdose? that's an honor for a few Wardens, it's like to Ascend into the heaven you die but as a god.
#55
Posté 13 mai 2015 - 03:26
No, it's a win win based completely meta game knowledge. There is literally no reason to not do it outside of rping which is what I said.
People should really get over the win-win or lose-lose scenario based solely on their personal perspective in an rpg games.
everything is a win-win if is the player decision.
#56
Posté 13 mai 2015 - 05:29
My Male!Mahariel always goes for the Dark Ritual - As much as he loves his clan, he ends up considering himself a Grey Warden first and foremost, so he wants to be sure that someone is left to rebuild the Wardens in Ferelden. The fact that he's romanced Zevran and wants to stay with him doesn't hurt either. And, ultimately, Morrigan is friends with him and she does sound like she's genuinely trying to save him.
My Female Cousland always accepts the Dark Ritual too, for the obvious reason that she wants to stay with Alistair.
My Female Amell didn't accept the Dark Ritual. Though friends with Morrigan, she still considered it blood magic, and seeing how it destroyed Jowan and so many others in the Tower, she hated it. Cue Alistair dying and my heart sinking way way down.
I never did get around to complete the other origins, but my guess is they'd accept the ritual.
#57
Posté 13 mai 2015 - 05:38
Dark Ritual, obviously. I have Aveline's way of thinking (it's about what Aveline thinks of the one she was named after):
"Her glory lies in tragedy, but the living Aveline doesn't revere sacrifice: a principled death is still a death."
Like that, except it's for my Warden. Grey Warden's glory does very much lie in tragedy and sacrifice, but my Warden's think that dying when you have a way to avoid it is just plain stupid.
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#58
Posté 14 mai 2015 - 10:08
, but my Warden's think that dying when you have a way to avoid it is just plain stupid.
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#59
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 12:19
I really liked Kieran's scenes in DAI. But I still think Redeemer is the best ending for DAO
That's why I had a normal baby with Morrigan instead.
#60
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 12:23
Not if the way to avoid one death, help the archdemon as wellThe risk/reward ratio are so terrible unbalanced that i'm incapable to see the tempation of the DR,Morrigan has nothing to offer because my warden's life is his own ,glad to have helped Loghain so that he has helped me in return, in my world state Urthemiel can go to sing his song into the Oblivion alongside of his acolyte, the Architect.
Have sex or die... Yeah, really bad risk/reward ratio there
. And how in Andraste's name does it help the archedemon? It's dead. Or is the actual old god's soul that isn't even guilty of anything other than getting corrupted by an evil force against its will that you want dead too? That's foolish and horrible. I already don't like you much as a poster, and this post only fueled that opinion.
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#61
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 01:43
Have sex or die... Yeah, really bad risk/reward ratio there
. And how in Andraste's name does it help the archedemon? It's dead. Or is the actual old god's soul that isn't even guilty of anything other than getting corrupted by an evil force against its will that you want dead too? That's foolish and horrible. I already don't like you much as a poster, and this post only fueled that opinion.
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#62
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 01:54
death is not mandatory even without a Dr, and honestly i do not care much of what you like or not, and yes the "gods" of an empire of slaves deserve only the obliteration, take all the risks for one life with all the if and maybe, when you can simply burn on ashes the archdemon once and for all is lunacy.Give his soul to a misanthrope like Morrigan and Flemeth or worse Solas is even more folly.
Yes, never mind that all the old gods being destroyed could have (strongly hinted) unforeseen consequences. Let's just do that and hope nothing bad happens due to your extremely idiotic shortsightedness in thinking that every ancient god dying can't POSSIBLY result in anything bad, there's absolutely NO WAY that could bite you in the ass.
Ugh... I'm done responding to your posts. They annoy me and have too much ignorance to be worth the effort in typing a reply to them
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#63
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 01:55
Dark Ritual, obviously. I have Aveline's way of thinking (it's about what Aveline thinks of the one she was named after):
"Her glory lies in tragedy, but the living Aveline doesn't revere sacrifice: a principled death is still a death."
Like that, except it's for my Warden. Grey Warden's glory does very much lie in tragedy and sacrifice, but my Warden's think that dying when you have a way to avoid it is just plain stupid.
While I myself do not have a compelling enough reason to deny the dark ritual, because, well, f*ck sacrifice when there's a clear out where everyone gets to go home, it's simple enough to conjure up a good one for a particular character you have in mind. Like, my city elf was made mostly for a laugh, but I did often make him a serious character that hated magic, trusted no mage and loathed even the idea of the old gods with every fiber of his being, and wanted nothing to do with anything that would preserve even a shred of it, so told her to gets the steppin', and Loghain took one for the team. Thinking back on a character like Fenris, I can see him denying the dark ritual for very similar reasons. The setting gives a pretty good basis for that kind of mindset, especially if you buy into the story of how the Blight began.
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#64
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 02:01
While I myself do not have a compelling enough reason to deny the dark ritual, because, well, f*ck sacrifice when there's a clear out where everyone gets to go home, it's simple enough to conjure up a good one for a particular character you have in mind. Like, my city elf was made mostly for a laugh, but I did often make him a serious character that hated magic, trusted no mage and loathed even the idea of the old gods with every fiber of his being, and wanted nothing to do with anything that would preserve even a shred of it, so told her to gets the steppin', and Loghain took one for the team. Thinking back on a character like Fenris, I can see him denying the dark ritual for very similar reasons. The setting gives a pretty good basis for that kind of mindset, especially if you buy into the Chantry's tale of how the blight began.
That is a fine reason. The reasons given by the one I was arguing with... Not so much.
#65
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 02:03
Yes, never mind that all the old gods being destroyed could have (strongly hinted) unforeseen consequences. Let's just do that and hope nothing bad happens due to your extremely idiotic shortsightedness in thinking that every ancient god dying can't POSSIBLY result in anything bad, there's absolutely NO WAY that could bite you in the ass.
Ugh... I'm done responding to your posts. They annoy me and have too much ignorance to be worth the effort in typing a reply to them
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Is Solas who has told to you this? Well good luck to believe him(another) liar Thedas can certainly live well even without the elven gods/old gods.
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#66
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 02:04
but Thedas can certainly live well even without the elven gods/old gods.
You assume.
#67
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 02:25
You assume.
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#68
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 02:30
You assume.
While it's certainly an assumption, for lack of more compelling evidence to the contrary, the idea of preemptively wiping out these dormant entities isn't a particularly bad one. The Wardens' demon summoning to destroy the old gods was foolhardy, but I feel only because of the demon binding part and being dupes for a Venatori mage. If there was a way they could forge through the deep roads and successfully kill the old gods before the darkspawn had a chance to corrupt them without slitting each others' throats in crazy blood rituals, I'd probably be pretty on board with that plan, Solas be damned. Now, if he actually spelled out a good reason why this would be bad, then I'd be all ears, but "It could be worse" is insufficient.
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#69
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 03:35
That's why I had a normal baby with Morrigan instead.
That's my current ply-thru: Dead Warden, human (well, half-dwarf) baby, Loghain as a Grey Warden.
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#70
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 05:03
That's my current ply-thru: Dead Warden, human (well, half-dwarf) baby, Loghain as a Grey Warden.
I always approve of half-dwarf Kieran.
#71
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 05:31
I always approve of half-dwarf Kieran.
is he the first example of half-dwarf in the series?
#72
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 05:43
is he the first example of half-dwarf in the series?
I believe so. I mean, it's said that they're possible, so presumably there are others out there... somewhere.
Luthias Dwarfson was apparently human despite the name (and being shorter and stronger than the average human), and he married a dwarf but I don't know if they had any kids.
So, yeah. Kieran it is.
#73
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 05:52
is he the first example of half-dwarf in the series?
The first confirmed case. It's speculated that Sandal might be half human or elven. Half-dwarves are supposed to be extremely rare.
#74
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 06:11
No, it's a win win based completely meta game knowledge. There is literally no reason to not do it outside of rping which is what I said.
Again,everything is a win win if it is the player decison including the Ultimate sacrifice.
#75
Posté 15 mai 2015 - 06:18
The first confirmed case. It's speculated that Sandal might be half human or elven. Half-dwarves are supposed to be extremely rare





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