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[KaiserShep]

This. 

Does anyone STILL think that killing all of the Old Gods will stop the blights from happening? I'm worried what happens when the remaining two Old Gods are dead. Does anyone ever think about that? 

 

 

On a meta level? Probably not. BioWare wouldn't write a character that bellyached about it being total madness if they didn't have something in store for all that stuff, but from the perspective of, say, the Inquisitor? Sure. The Old Gods seem like nothing but trouble, and snuffing them out in their sleep before the darkspawn can get their blighty claws on them seems like as good a plan as any, provided it can actually be done. 
 

[Aren]

On a meta level? Probably not. BioWare wouldn't write a character that bellyached about it being total madness if they didn't have something in store for all that stuff, but from the perspective of, say, the Inquisitor? Sure. The Old Gods seem like nothing but trouble, and snuffing them out in their sleep before the darkspawn can get their blighty claws on them seems like as good a plan as any, provided it can actually be done. 
 

 The architect has managed to reach one of them (first intelligent creature who preceded the darkspawn horde) and to saw one of them Uncorrupted,too bad that he was his acolyte,to save the darkspawn he said?

i'm more willingly to believe that it was to worship his beloved.

[KaiserShep]

Well, whatever their reasons, if the game allows, I intend to end all these ancient whatevers. 

[Qun00]

That's why I had a normal baby with Morrigan instead.

So... which choice results into Old God!Kieran and which one leads to normal Kieran?

[Lazarillo]

So... which choice results into Old God!Kieran and which one leads to normal Kieran?

 

Romance her, but refuse the ritual, and she'll have a normal baby.

[KaiserShep]

Here's a fun fact I just learned: the voice of Kieran is actually Claudia Black's son. 

[Br3admax]

A Win-win scenario does not exist in rpg games, because it could simply mean "It's the way i like the story the most"
I have seen in this thread people who are enthusiastic about a world state with an Ultimate sacrifice warden and with Loghain alive as well, which is a rare scenario, just to write in their story of Inquisition a small part for Loghain sadness, remorse and atonement.
If the story is not a rainbow happy ending this does not mean that is less valuable, this is not diminished in any way because has nothing to do with "meta knowledge" who in the end is a word that means nothing for a story driven game.
To Op the best choice is the one that you liked the most for your story.

What was the point in responding to me, when it's just a rephrasing of what I said? I already explained why I did it, back before DA:I was even released for me to know it wouldn't backfire.

[RobRam10]

Dark Ritual, you get to save one of the Great Ones and Kieran becomes the vessel of beautiful Uthermiel.

[Aren]

Dark Ritual, you get to save one of the Great Ones and Kieran becomes the vessel of beautiful Uthermiel.

Dark ritual is useful if you deliberately wish to save the Archdemon like Morrigan, because is the only way, is not needed however if you play well your strategies to spare 1 warden.

 

[Aren]

 

 

 

I have always seen the Dark ritual more as a cop out rather than an interesting element for the plot

Super cop out

[Aren]

What was the point in responding to me, when it's just a rephrasing of what I said? I already explained why I did it, back before DA:I was even released for me to know it wouldn't backfire.

I do not see any rephrasing in the previous post,mainly because our approach to the game is vastly different.

To me the word backfire doesn't make any sense,because

The DR is treated just as s cop out,the fact that "wouldn't backfire" because is nullificated is what makes that plot line underwelming and shallow

[GGGenesis]

I would have gone with ultimate sacrifice since my Warden is a gay male and Alistair hates Morrigan, but then Morrigan said "Do you really think having a child with me is worse than death?" (something to that effect) and it really made me think. Because when it comes to it, that's basically it. Have sex with Morrigan or die. Heroic deaths never appealed to me if there is a cop out, because it just seems narcissistic in a way. Pretty sure Thedas still needs the Warden around to kill the remaining darkspawn and help restore order and such...

[dsl08002]

the DR is the best storyline in my opinion.

So yes dark ritual

[Dai Grepher]

I've always wondered if the Dark Ritual would allow anyone to slay an archdemon. Meaning, a Warden would not have to slay it. Anyone could. Or if the archdemon dies through like... falling damage or something, then the soul would still seek out the child like a beacon.

 

If this is the case, then that could be virtually any Warden's rationale for approving the Dark Ritual.

 

Anyway, my male Cousland refused it on moral grounds, plus he planned for Loghain to make the sacrifice if Riordan could not.

 

My male human bloodmage had been intimate with Morrigan numerous times already, and he was fine with such magic.

 

My male city elf hates humans and certainly doesn't want to die defending a human city. So he has Alistair do it with Morrigan because he hates them both and knows they hate each other. He doesn't care what happens to their human child. He stabs Morrigan at the eluvian.

[Qun00]

Simple. I saw the Calling trailer before the game was released, and was floored -- that sort of heroic last stand, in the dark, alone but unflinching, really struck a note with me, and I hoped the game would offer me something similar. When Riordan revealed the grim price for killing an archdemon, I knew for a fact that he would try but fail since he's not the protagonist, so it'd be up to Alistair or myself. And while the Calling trailer was awesome, being one of only five people to ever end a Blight was an even better way to say goodbye to my Warden. She was, in a way, always meant to die even before I knew that the game would allow it. So I threw her at the archdemon and didn't regret it for a moment. There's no other ending I could ever choose.

Also, I loathe the thought of letting a friend (Alistair) die in my place. I like playing "heroic" characters, and what hero hides behind another's death? Sparing Loghain was never even an option for me. Similarly, I utterly despise Morrigan like few other characters ever, saw not a single redeeming feature in her through the game, and thus would never have listened to her -- much less gambled for the safety of the world on her say-so.

What do you mean, another's death?

The ritual removes the need to sacrifice a Grey Warden, right?

But I must admit... that trailer makes a really good case for the heroic death route.

https://youtu.be/TnXX4DZOH7Y

[Aren]

the DR is the best storyline in my opinion.

So yes dark ritual

No it is not, because it lead exactly to the same outcome

[Qun00]

Depends on what you mean by outcome.

It's the only way to have a happy family of sorts with Morrigan.

And you can bet the Old God kid will lead to something interesting related to Flemeth.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

Depends on what you mean by outcome.

It's the only way to have a happy family of sorts with Morrigan.

And you can bet the Old God kid will lead to something interesting related to Flemeth.

Even though she takes the soul, doesn't he have the memories to convey to his mother?

[thats1evildude]

I say romance Alistair, then sacrifice yourself, and then sacrifice Alistair in the Fade.

 

THEN YOU WILL BE TOGETHER IN DEATH

[Dai Grepher]

I say romance Alistair, then sacrifice yourself, and then sacrifice Alistair in the Fade.

 

THEN YOU WILL BE TOGETHER IN DEATH

 

Nope. Ultimate Sacrifice results in the Hero's soul being destroyed.

[JadeDragon]

Well i guess you also have consider who do you want to find the cure for the calling your HoF or the Warden Commander, because Awakening events is canon and did happen. So no matter what somebody is gonna look for the cure and I would rather it just be another accolade to the hero I am connected with(HoF) then bioware's premade hero.

[Secret Rare]

And you can bet the Old God kid will lead to something interesting related to Flemeth.

The Old God soul isn't going to be important going forward any more than any other imported consequence has any chance of being important going forward. At most it might provide some flavor dialogue or some slight variation on a scene but no meaningfully significant narrative variation.

 

BioWare has proven time and time again that they don't do much with any variable consequences/world states, especially going from game to game. At this point with AAA development, I think its just way too costly to do too much of that and BioWare has never done much of it.

[Akiza]

I chose the ritual with all but one of my Wardens. Reasons (differently weighted for different Wardens):
 

(1) The DR outcome is plainly more interesting than the sacrifice

(2) I am somewhat allergic against the heroic sacrifice trope since it's all too often used for heavy-handed moralizing.

(3) I find it fundamentally desirable that a human takes ownership of some powers formerly reserved for the gods. Too bad about the reversal.

(4) It is what Morrigan wants.

(1) Impossible,the outcome is the same and the two different scenes share pretty much the same dialogues conversations,due to the fact that the DR bring us to a nullification.

(2) Is not the case of an heavy handed moralizing, GW are not meant to be heroes, the Ultimate sacrifice is just a weapon to eliminate the essence of the Old God, the sacrifice is there for people who do not despise responsability as GW not for "heroes".

(3) Aside from the fact that we discover that Kieran gain little if nothing from the AD,due to the fact that they are two separate entities,Urthemiel is Urthemiel and he is just using the boy as a vessel,

he do not even thinking twice before to abandon him and reach a more powerful host,the old god never grant his power to the boy until the very end in which he travel across  the eluvian,he just share some of his knowledge.

(4) I couldn't care less of what Morrigan want.

[Akiza]

Lastly it is Stroud(who I never care much for) that get left to party with the demons.

Yes great benefit here,Hawke vs Stroud is not even a choice.