i'm thinking... the only evidence for his existence really is the old gods being sealed underground, and there's several other explanations for that as well.
The Tevinter/Neromenians worshiped a creator God before they switched to the Old Gods. There is also some overlap with the Sun of Elven mythology and the Maker.
In the end what matter is that we have no proof that the mages are responsible for every demon that exists like the OP is claiming
In the end what matter is that we have no proof that the mages are responsible for every demon that exists like the OP is claiming
yep
I'm glad the templars were more sympathetic this time around. DAO and DA2, I felt, had more of a pro-mage feel. Until DAI, I tended to always side with the mages. In my first run, I went templar with no problem. It was really great.
The Harrowing process in an atrocity to be honest. When people know you're a mage, you essencially have no rights as a human being.
I have absolutely no sympathy for templars
I am very much sympathetic ... to the competent ones.
Sadly, it seems that for every one mage we can trust there are 10 Jowan types.
spirits were around before the maker was a gleam in andraste's eye
Andraste didn't dream up the Maker, he was a preexisting deity that the Neromenians and the later Tevinter imperium belived created the world and who's belief preexisted the belief in the old gods. She most likely learned of him as a Tevinter slave.
DA2 was terrible with the m v t because
ever
single
elf
mage
was a ****** blood mage
orsino summoned a harvester for no ****** reason
I wish there was this option...
I feel sympathy for the pool fools trying to live an let live in this crazy war
Heck, even Justinia knew the war was going no where fast, the freakin Inquisition was her back up plan
talk about the dangerous genre saavy trope
You must have missed the dialogue from the chantry outside of Haven where one of them spoke about the Templars abusing the mages. 
And you missed the Codex from the Templar admitting to the abuse.
Theres fault on BOTH sides but the fact remains Templars did ABUSE their power and some of you pro Templar people need face that truth
The Harrowing process in an atrocity to be honest. When people know you're a mage, you essencially have no rights as a human being.
I have absolutely no sympathy for templars
All my characters have been Mages. By doing this you see just how badly they are treated and why they would end up going to extreme measures. How feared they are and the fact that even Cullen - someone who actually cared about a Mage wouldn't budge on following through with his feelings. Yep, I've always felt sorry for the Mages.
You must have missed the dialogue from the chantry outside of Haven where one of them spoke about the Templars abusing the mages.
Theres fault on BOTH sides but the fact remains Templars did ABUSE their power and some of you pro Templar people need face that truth
Some Templars abused their powers. Just like some mages abused theirs.
You must have missed the dialogue from the chantry outside of Haven where one of them spoke about the Templars abusing the mages.
Theres fault on BOTH sides but the fact remains Templars did ABUSE their power and some of you pro Templar people need face that truth
true
but many more mages abused demons and blood magic
mages are more to blame than templars
No.
I followed the Mages through all the games, yes Mages can become Demons, but all templars are monsters and Prison guards.
I will not follow religious fanatics.
I wish there was this option...
That option is never in game when needed.
That option is never in game when needed.
If it was, the breach would never be sealed and Corypheus gets two armies.
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My opinions of Mages, Templars and Wardens didn't really change while playing through all 3 DA games. But, I tend to look at everything with a lot of grey area and don't allow the actions of a few to negatively impact my view of a larger group. It's really easy in both video games and real life to paint an entire group with the same brush based on the actions of a few with in a certain group. That's why people need to remember, just because it's easy does not mean it's right.
If it was, the breach would never be sealed and Corypheus gets two armies.
Hawke,Varric and Solas have a pleasure of dealing with whole Coryfish thing,because afterall he is their's mess!
Some Templars abused their powers. Just like some mages abused theirs.
If a mage is suspected of abusing his or her powers, he or she is made Tranquil or executed immediately with no possibility of appeal. Sometimes as a prophylactic measure before the actual abuse of power takes place.
If a templar is proven to have abused his or her powers, often repeatedly... nothing happens. We have yet to see a templar be publicly or privately disciplined for even the most heinous abuse.
There is blame on both sides, but there is no parity.
Objection just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean that they always get away with it without punishment from either the Templar hierarchy, or the seekers who pointedly do hunt down bad Templars. Your making assumptions from what little evidence we get into the workings of the Templars and the seekers that over see them which isn't helped as you only see it from the outside and not within either the seekers or the Templars.
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