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Leliana the dirty slattern?


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Well I haven't actually romanced Josephine but the fact that something like that would have to be explained away/denied by Josephine is telling itself. (...)

'Cayse it's not like people like to jump to conclusions. Baseless gossip is just some fictional concept straight form Varricks's worst book, right? ;) 

The fact that you so eagerly pursue the idea of them being lovers despite them being sister-like good friends is basically the best explanation for why Scribbles needed to explicitly deny it :D 



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Sorry but I just don't find any of the explanations to be sufficient enough to explain away the heavily suggestive in game comments regarding Leliana and Josephine's relationship. Sure the writer who wrote the character/dialogue can say whatever after the fact but it just sounds like a last minute cop out to me but sure  we have to accept it anyway. I guess Cassandra was just way off too because she clearly seemed to think something was up between them.  

Well, yeah, something. Like a friendship going WAY back. Just not the kind of friendship you expect.



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Sorry but I just don't find any of the explanations to be sufficient enough to explain away the heavily suggestive in game comments regarding Leliana and Josephine's relationship. Sure the writer who wrote the character/dialogue can say whatever after the fact but it just sounds like a last minute cop out to me but sure  we have to accept it anyway. I guess Cassandra was just way off too because she clearly seemed to think something was up between them.


I'm not exactly sure what these "heavily suggestive in game comments" are supposed to be. The smallclothes pinned to the chantry board remark? That sounds more like drunken frat party pranks to me. Other than that... I have no idea.

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Does no one recall the early party banter dialogue between Verric and Cassandra  where Verric asks about Josephine and Leliana's relationship and Cassandra uncomfortably responds "They are.....friends" to which Verric gives a colorful "oh i see" type response? I've yet to hear even another bad explanation for that exchange. Could just be gossiping and totally unfounded assumptions i suppose. 



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What's the bet if it had been a dude character, it would be totally fine?  <_<



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You mean like Jacob cheating on femshep in "typical cheating black dude" fashion which i was highly irritated by?  :rolleyes:


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Does no one recall the early party banter dialogue between Verric and Cassandra  where Verric asks about Josephine and Leliana's relationship and Cassandra uncomfortably responds "They are.....friends" to which Verric gives a colorful "oh i see" type response? I've yet to hear even another bad explanation for that exchange. Could just be gossiping and totally unfounded assumptions i suppose. 

The reason she causes on friend is because in a previous banter with Varric she asks if he has heard from any of his associates and he retorts that he refers to associates as friends. So Cassandra was going to say Josephine and Leliana are associates but remembers what Varric said earlier and uses friends instead. 


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Does no one recall the early party banter dialogue between Verric and Cassandra  where Verric asks about Josephine and Leliana's relationship and Cassandra uncomfortably responds "They are.....friends" to which Verric gives a colorful "oh i see" type response? I've yet to hear even another bad explanation for that exchange. Could just be gossiping and totally unfounded assumptions i suppose. 

The line from Cassandra you quote does exist - I give you that. But Varrick never asks about their relationship and there is no "oh I see" type of response. Though with lots of bad will one could interpret Cassandra's answer like you do, I give you that.

The dialogue in question, behold, the Scribbles-Birdy romance exposed:

Varric: You know, Seeker, for someone with your tact and charisma, you assembled a pretty good little Inquisition.
Varric: I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you didn't drag them all here by force.
Cassandra: How kind of you.
Varric: I mean, you never know. You could have kidnapped Ruffles, and she'd be too polite to say anything.
Cassandra: Leliana recruited Josephine. They're... friends.
Varric: So there's a rational explanation after all. Just when I thought you had layers.


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Does no one recall the early party banter dialogue between Verric and Cassandra  where Verric asks about Josephine and Leliana's relationship and Cassandra uncomfortably responds "They are.....friends" to which Verric gives a colorful "oh i see" type response? I've yet to hear even another bad explanation for that exchange. Could just be gossiping and totally unfounded assumptions i suppose. 

 

Yah mean this one?

 

 

    Varric: You know, Seeker, for someone with your tact and charisma, you assembled a pretty good little Inquisition.
    Varric: I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you didn't drag them all here by force.
    Cassandra: How kind of you.
    Varric: I mean, you never know. You could have kidnapped Ruffles, and she'd be too polite to say anything.
    Cassandra: Leliana recruited Josephine. They're... friends.
    Varric: So there's a rational explanation after all. Just when I thought you had layers.

 

He also mocks Cass about her awkwardness with the idea of 'friends:'

 

 

Cassandra: Have you heard anything from your Kirkwall associates, Varric?
Varric: You're asking me? So you don't read my letters?
Cassandra: You're no longer my prisoner, much as you like to act like it.
Varric: Yet I still get all the suspicion.
Cassandra: I am not without sympathy, especially given recent events.
Varric: Why, seeker, I would never accuse you of having sympathy!
Varric: By the way, I tend to refer to my "associates" as "friends." Maybe you're not familiar with the concept.
Cassandra: (sighs)

 

But yes. Hot scissor sex. Only reasonable conclusion. Totes. If anyone has a youtube link of Leliana scolding the Inquisitor for asking whether she and the Divine knew each other in the Biblical sense that'd be so applicable right now. You just can't be a attractive, bisexual, ginger female without your every other acquaintances having to be a shag partner I swear.
 


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Well...

 

At least this troll thread is funny.

 

So creds to you, particularly for using the word "slattern" and the "drunken scissor fights." :lol:

 

Although... it would've been more effective if you made a graph, OP.



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But yes. Hot scissor sex. Only reasonable conclusion. Totes. If anyone has a youtube link of Leliana scolding the Inquisitor for asking whether she and the Divine knew each other in the Biblical sense that'd be so applicable right now. You just can't be a attractive, bisexual, ginger female without your every other acquaintances having to be a shag partner I swear.

 

I was not convinved, but when you mention this... You know, I still remember how in Origins she tried her pick up lines on Morrigan, of all people :P 



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Although... it would've been more effective if you made a graph, OP.

 

I'd prefer if he drew us a diagram.



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Well the devine was an old lady so that would be odd on a few different levels. 



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Some things you'll just never know for sure....

 

But by all means, fanfiction it. I'm sure some "slattern" out there has written one about it. ;)



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Well for now I'll have to continue playing the game but assuming it was't an just an abandoned plot point that was partially left in by accident I'll say it was definitely at the very least a deliberate red herring. I'm not convinced of that yet but we'll see



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Screw the diagrams, I call Rule 34; pics or it didn't happen.

 

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Well... if you think you'll get a threesome or something....

 

You're gonna be majorly disappointed. BW decided to chuck that out of the game, along with desire demons (sexy ones, not this Imshael crap) and brothels. ;)



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Came in this thread and...

 

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There are two things that spark interest in the human mind, both consciously and sub-consciously.

 

1. Sex (sexual references)

2. Violence.



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Leli and Josie are too busy getting worked up for their next drunken scissor fight to care.

 

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#46
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Hanging someone's smallcothes at an orlesian party is like doodling someone's face while he's drunk asleep. It's fun.


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Yeah, this is what happens when a writer insists on bringing back a character for only a vaguely related role in later games.

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Came in this thread and...

 

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I expected laughter.

 

I got exactly that. I'm a happy fella.



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And we are done here.