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[Lord Raijin]

I'm just disappointed I didn't get to see Mother Giselle's boobs...

Wait. Scratch that. I can... just gotta empty two wine casks.

 

I was disappointed that I didn't get to see Divine Justinia V's boobs right before she perished.

[Little Princess Peach]

Third, did morrigan develop breast cancer between dragon age I and III? In Origins, she was a well shaped woman without social inhibitions, or social stigmas. She was unabashedly and unashamedly intelligent, attractive, and manipulative. You should change this character's name and model and just be done with it. She was a selfish immodest thing in the first dragon age, and you've completely flipped everything about her personality. And yes, the model change does bother me. Why can't she have breasts? I could find you thousands of examples of female human beings that have lumps of fatty flesh on their chest. It is not that uncommon. Iron Bull has larger breasts than she does

 

 

obvious OP you have no idea what it's like being a woman after giving birth our bodies change they wont be the same as they used to be

[Terodil]

Oh good grief VickVeel, you make some good points (imo at least, I know some people disagree) and then shoot yourself in the foot over and over again. Yes, I can imagine that some of the design choices were indeed political. Like any other management decision actually, so yes, it wasn't just lazy. I wouldn't pin it on a 'gay agenda' (hey, Dorian was one of the far too few high points of DA:I imo!) but more on a 'shitstorm avoidance agenda'. They have neutered DA in many respects so as not to offend. Understandable, yes, but if you take out anything and everything that can invite discussion, debate, and yes, potential for being offensive, you end up with a bland potato mush of a game, exactly what DA:I ended up becoming.

 

Said it before about Morrigan: She has got older. She has raised a kid for 5 years, I find it quite plausible that her behaviour would not be quite as eccentric as in DA:O where she was barely out of her teens and didn't have a care in the world. This does not mean I don't miss it, DA:I is sorely missing a Jack or an old-school Morrigan or an old-school Varric or an Alistair-Wynne combo or an Isabela or... -- but at least the change in Morrigan's personality is logical and welcome from my point of view. She also had one of the few memorable moments of DA:I, I don't think I'll ever forget her fighting and pleading for her son. Still makes me upset.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

This game was designed for women, gay men and to appease feminists who don't even play PC or console games.  I was a long time fan of Bioware, but there is no way I'm buying Bioware products anymore after this huge insult. Spread the word that straight men aren't going to tolerate the gay agenda for much longer. There will be a reckoning.

 

At this point, you can't not be a troll.

[Roamingmachine]

This game was designed for women, gay men and to appease feminists who don't even play PC or console games.  I was a long time fan of Bioware, but there is no way I'm buying Bioware products anymore after this huge insult. Spread the word that straight men aren't going to tolerate the gay agenda for much longer. There will be a reckoning.

 

 

 

That is all.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Third, did morrigan develop breast cancer between dragon age I and III? In Origins, she was a well shaped woman without social inhibitions, or social stigmas. She was unabashedly and unashamedly intelligent, attractive, and manipulative. You should change this character's name and model and just be done with it. She was a selfish immodest thing in the first dragon age, and you've completely flipped everything about her personality. And yes, the model change does bother me. Why can't she have breasts? I could find you thousands of examples of female human beings that have lumps of fatty flesh on their chest. It is not that uncommon. Iron Bull has larger breasts than she does

 

 

obvious OP you have no idea what it's like being a woman after giving birth our bodies change they wont be the same as they used to be

But tbh I've never seen in my whole 25 y.o. life a single woman with lesser breasts after giving birth to a child.
Deformed? Yes, I've seen that. But in most cases there was a cup increase, at least 1 size+

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

While I consider homosexuality a light form of a psychological disorder (one that doesn't decline sanity) I can also understand those people. They have their right to be attracted to whatever person he or she desires. Same for dressing other people decide 'gay', 'weird', 'butchy', etc. 

But the lack of beaty in Inquisition isn't because Bioware sees to make gay people happy. I'd say it's because Bioware tries to make senseless kids happy these days, ones that are not capable to embrace what beauty is. Underage buttonmashers, living in a basement.

[KaiserShep]

I wander back into this thread, and now I know how Biff feels.

 

[turuzzusapatuttu]

While I consider homosexuality a light form of a psychological disorder (one that doesn't decline sanity) I can also understand those people.

 

English isn't my native language, so maybe I'm completely misinterpreting you, but I would like to understand you.

 

Have you just said that you believe homosexuality is a psychological disorder? 

 

'Cause I'm a medical student who wants to become a psychiatrist and I would like to explain you a couple of things.

[berelinde]

While I consider homosexuality a light form of a psychological disorder (one that doesn't decline sanity) I can also understand those people. They have their right to be attracted to whatever person he or she desires. Same for dressing other people decide 'gay', 'weird', 'butchy', etc. 

But the lack of beaty in Inquisition isn't because Bioware sees to make gay people happy. I'd say it's because Bioware tries to make senseless kids happy these days, ones that are not capable to embrace what beauty is. Underage buttonmashers, living in a basement.

The poor spelling and grammar make this post difficult to understand, but you appear to be stating that BioWare's failure to meet your aesthetic standards in some way suggests that they're targeting a less sophisticated demographic which values engaging character interaction and innovative character design over the more prurient models mature intellectuals favor.

 

Um... yeah. Good luck with that.

[ColGali]

Third, did morrigan develop breast cancer between dragon age I and III? In Origins, she was a well shaped woman without social inhibitions, or social stigmas. She was unabashedly and unashamedly intelligent, attractive, and manipulative. You should change this character's name and model and just be done with it. She was a selfish immodest thing in the first dragon age, and you've completely flipped everything about her personality. And yes, the model change does bother me. Why can't she have breasts? I could find you thousands of examples of female human beings that have lumps of fatty flesh on their chest. It is not that uncommon. Iron Bull has larger breasts than she does.

 

The inconsistencies with this character are so abhorrent, so jarring, that I couldn't get past it. It actually puts more light on the fact that every other woman in the game lacks any feminine qualities whatsoever. There are dozens of cases of men being portrayed, not just discussed, but portrayed as flamboyant or permiscuous, several instances of having overly sexualized  models or attitudes, but no one woman in this entire game is feminine. Seriously? What kind of double standard is this? Hell, they've even removed the desire demons from the game completely, probably for the same reason. The sequences with desire demons in origins were interesting because of the situations that they put the character in. They are mature situations with extreme consequences and definite moral choices. It allowed players to give in to temptation in more than one way (example, learning blood magic). If anything, I think that this is the ultimate example of the removal of moral ambiguity from the game as a whole. 

 

Morrigan's change of personality is part of the story. I'm ok with it.

 

Her outlook? Well. It's just being "politically correct" with the poor women who feel less feminine. And yes, men's opinion don't matter, they are disgusting evil creatures anyway. (Except the overly sexualized ones in the game of course.)

 

Double standard? Oh nooo! They are just being correct!

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

English isn't my native language, so maybe I'm completely misinterpreting you, but I would like to understand you.

 

Have you just said that you believe homosexuality is a psychological disorder? 

 

'Cause I'm a medical student who wants to become a psychiatrist and I would like to explain you a couple of things.

Yes, sure. I'm a graduated teacher of history, which includes some peripheral psychology knowledge. Please be advised, that psychology is a complicated science that has a lot of POVs on most matters, and we may not be able to agree on some terms. Btw, I highly recommend you to read a short book Entartung, 1892 (Degeneration, by Nordau) before we start discussing. Best if we use e-mails for that, I suppose.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

The poor spelling and grammar make this post difficult to understand, but you appear to be stating that BioWare's failure to meet your aesthetic standards in some way suggests that they're targeting a less sophisticated demographic which values engaging character interaction and innovative character design over the more prurient models mature intellectuals favor.

 

Um... yeah. Good luck with that.

No need for interaction after the highlighted part, thank you. Please ignore my future posts/topics.

[TaHol]

While I consider homosexuality a light form of a psychological disorder (one that doesn't decline sanity) I can also understand those people.

I'm not gay, and I'm insulted of this. This insults me in every level. If I have to explain to you why it insults me I'm even more disappointed.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

I'm not gay, and I'm insulted of this. This insults me in every level. If I have to explain to you why it insults me I'm even more disappointed.

I have a right to think so just like you have your right to think otherwise. Both POV have some psychological research to back it up. 
If you feel like arguing, please contact me via email or in PMs.

[MaxQuartiroli]

I am not bored at all by the reduction of Morrigan's breast size (and by the way I had a friend that had a D cup before getting pregnant and now, after the maternity has a B cup, so I can assure you that sometimes this is possible, even if it does not happen very often). On the contrary, I liked how they shaped her body in DA:I.

 

Still, I'd like to point out that Morrigan didn't gave birth to a child for everyone, not in my playtrough at least.

[Amne YA]

The Op  is complaining about things missing in the game while he didn"t fisinish/explore tha game to find the things he think are missing .
1-  There is choices and people die  with your choices ....   charger bull / people in dreadnuth /   stroud or hawk in the fade / judging people ( death sentence ...)
2- morigan have been pregenant and gived birth and was parenting a baby that is now a young boy , women loose whight  after giving birth so it s normal her  ******  are smaller , the women ****** go smaller  after they stop  productiong milk when the baby reach 1 / 2 years 

3- their is actually a desire demon in emprise the lion  , he will propose you a deal , you can except it or  deal with the demon 

[Terodil]

1-  There is choices and people die  with your choices ....   charger bull / people in dreadnuth /   stroud or hawk in the fade / judging people ( death sentence ...)

Yeah... but it doesn't make a difference at all if they live or die, most don't even get any additional convos.
 

3- their is actually a desire demon in emprise the lion  , he will propose you a deal , you can except it or  deal with the demon

A desire demon that looks like a run-of-the-mill male NPC that completely fails to evoke the temptation, the moral dilemma desire demons cooked up in previous installations.

[M_Helder]

It was originally intended as an MMO-RPG in DA setting (for whoever thought that was a good idea...), so I guess that kinda explains all the emptiness and boredom of grinding through endless hordes of enemies and general inconsistencies.

 

Sloppy, lazy, unfinished, rushed, you name it.

[JeffKaos]

For every nut case screaming "I won't buy another BioWare game because of 'gays' and small boobies" there's at least 1,000 more (myself included) who are going to buy them. Because BioWare's cool.That's why these game sell millions of copies despite the goofy misogynistic rage.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

everytime someone reads "game sux cuz i cannot make evil decisions" as "game sux cuz gays and small boobies" a puppy dies.

[MissMayhem96]

So, as I was playing through dragon age: inquisition, there were many good aspects about the game to keep things going. The combat system was somewhat decent, though it annoyed me how limited my choices of active spells seemed to be. The music was wonderful. But something was missing.

 

I wasn't quite sure what it was until about the time I stopped the assassination, and then it became abundantly clear, I was playing Barney and Friends Explore Thedas, Not a bioware game.

 

The first thing that bothered me, the removal of blood magic. In previous games, every art discussed within the game was pretty much available, regardless of it's moral consequences. It was more or less up to the player to determine the morality of themselves. Now, blood magic has been portrayed as this ultimate evil that can never been forgiven. It used to be something that was a tool that was often used for evil.

 

Letting this little nitpick slide, I continue on with the game. As I complete the chargers side quest, the next one hit. None of my choices are really choices. Do I save a group of people who have fought by my side for a time, or do I keep my alliance with the qun? Both choices are morally good choices, either the good of the few or good of the many kind of choice. Where was my choice to steal the dreadnought and discover it's secrets? 

 

Third, did morrigan develop breast cancer between dragon age I and III? In Origins, she was a well shaped woman without social inhibitions, or social stigmas. She was unabashedly and unashamedly intelligent, attractive, and manipulative. You should change this character's name and model and just be done with it. She was a selfish immodest thing in the first dragon age, and you've completely flipped everything about her personality. And yes, the model change does bother me. Why can't she have breasts? I could find you thousands of examples of female human beings that have lumps of fatty flesh on their chest. It is not that uncommon. Iron Bull has larger breasts than she does.

 

The inconsistencies with this character are so abhorrent, so jarring, that I couldn't get past it. It actually puts more light on the fact that every other woman in the game lacks any feminine qualities whatsoever. There are dozens of cases of men being portrayed, not just discussed, but portrayed as flamboyant or permiscuous, several instances of having overly sexualized  models or attitudes, but no one woman in this entire game is feminine. Seriously? What kind of double standard is this? Hell, they've even removed the desire demons from the game completely, probably for the same reason. The sequences with desire demons in origins were interesting because of the situations that they put the character in. They are mature situations with extreme consequences and definite moral choices. It allowed players to give in to temptation in more than one way (example, learning blood magic). If anything, I think that this is the ultimate example of the removal of moral ambiguity from the game as a whole. 

 

I made it halfway through the game before I realized this, but you can't make an evil choice in this game. Ordinarily I am a relatively moral individual when I play through the game, and tend to appreciate being able to see the option for something cruel or terrible, but then not taking it. Those options don't exist here. The story is sloppily put together. The enemies are bland, and the allies are all bumbling idiots. The grey wardens commit mass murder of themselves because they fall for a trick that they shouldn't have. Duncan would have been ashamed. I can see one group of people falling for this follow the leader bull, but the leader of every major power in the game? all at once? Convenient plot twist is convenient. It's too sloppy. I don't like it.

 

 

 

 

At any rate, that's why I won't finish the game. I've uninstalled it and origin (never liked origin anyhow). Bioware, Not sure if you take feedback well or not, but this is my feedback. Do what you will with it. I'm not going to be purchasing your games anymore. 

 

 

You were doing well till you got Morrigan's breast size and then I just stopped reading.

[berelinde]

For every nut case screaming "I won't buy another BioWare game because of 'gays' and small boobies" there's at least 1,000 more (myself included) who are going to buy them. Because BioWare's cool.That's why these game sell millions of copies despite the goofy misogynistic rage.

Yeah, you kinda have to laugh at all the demands for MOAR BEWBS, as if somehow, it equates with narrative depth or morally ambiguous decisions.

 

You sound as if you've played more than one BioWare game, JeffKaos. At the very least, you seem aware of the fact that BioWare games were always heroic and tended to focus on defeating some evil force, even if the decisions required to get there weren't all that straight-forward. Not that there's anything evil (or good) about cleavage. It's just something that happens to 50% of the population to varying degrees. BioWare games sold and continue to sell because strong, well-developed characters bring the story to life.

 

Regardless, I don't think BioWare (or EA) is going to weep because a few people are complaining that they didn't get the side-boob they expected.They're going to continue to make the games they want to make, and those games will sell. I wouldn't be surprised if the next installment did feature more female companions and/or more romance options for straight male protagonists, but if it does, it will be because the character design team was inspired, not because they were afraid of losing all their fans.