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[Fearsome1]

I didn't hate Fiona! I would have enjoyed romancing that pixie.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I didn't hate Fiona! I would have enjoyed romancing that pixie.

While I see the attraction (looks only) I don't think "pixie" adequately describes a woman her age.

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Fiona is not so bad as she seems and i agree she committed serious mistakes,but the verbal beatdown given by her own son almost make me feel bad, though
Also she is the main reason why i choose the mages almost every time,killing her makes me feel sick

[Dean_the_Young]

While I see the attraction (looks only) I don't think "pixie" adequately describes a woman her age.

 

I thought that was a typo for 'pixel' myself.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I thought that was a typo for 'pixel' myself.

Possible.

[TK514]

I saved the Templars but always had sympathy for Fiona.
 
One of the things that bugged me a lot is how Fiona did not get her due respect when you fight/kill her. She just shows up as a mini-boss in the middle of the fight with no intro (She was nearly dead when I even noticed that I was fighting a elite enemy called "Fiona"). She deserved a cut scene when she shows up and also one as she dies. Her death is hardly acknowledged for such an important character.

Just another example of how, even with the longer development cycle, DA:I still feels rushed.

[Gervaise]

I didn't hate Fiona so much as hate the fact that I couldn't replace her as de facto leader of the rebel mages.    The only way you could really do that was by siding with the Templars and killing her.    If you conscript the mages you should have been able to remove her from her position of influence.    What I would have liked to have done was be able to judge her, with one of the options being to allow the other mages to decide her fate (just as you could with the Templar officer).     Given that the majority we spoke to were highly unhappy with what she had done, at the very least I would have thought they would have called for her to no longer to be recognised as their spokesperson.  

 

Alistair/Anora are quite justified in the verbal battering they give.   Alistair doesn't know she is his mother.    If Anora is on the throne alone, the codex says that she persuaded her own people to accept the sanctuary she was offering the mages six months previously and that they wholeheartedly supported her because they trusted her judgement.  However, in the aftermath of the mages betrayal in aligning themselves to a hostile foreign power, Anora's position is far less secure because it has undermined the faith her people have in her and weakens her reputation in the wider world as well.   There doesn't seem to be a similar codex for Alistair but people seem more forgiving of him because of his father and his general likeability.   Nevertheless it doesn't make him look good to have his trust betrayed in that way.   Something that even the politically naïve Alistair would realise.

[Sifr]

While I see the attraction (looks only) I don't think "pixie" adequately describes a woman her age.

 

I enjoy her looks and personality, she's a definite Mage I'd Like to Free...

 

[MisterJB]

Alistair and Anora trusted Fiona and she betrayed them. Fiona trusted Alexius and he betrayed her. Alexius trusted Corypheus and he betrayed him.

Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

[Lumix19]

Alistair and Anora trusted Fiona and she betrayed them. Fiona betrayed Alexius and he betrayed her. Alexius trusted Corypheus and he betrayed him.
Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

Never trust anybody in Thedas. Isn't that the lesson we learned in Halamshiral?

[Sifr]

Alistair and Anora trusted Fiona and she betrayed them. Fiona betrayed Alexius and he betrayed her. Alexius trusted Corypheus and he betrayed him.

Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

 

But Fiona didn't betray them, she was pressured by the other mages in Redcliffe to accept Tevinter help, so it's not like the blame was squarely on her?

 

And how did she betray Alexius?

 

Assuming that you mean the invitation in Val Royeaux, it's not that much of a betrayal if we do assume that there is indeed a time paradox at work, since the timeline where she went to give the offer means she's probably not yet committed to the Venatori offer? Having discovered this, Alexius would have naturally gone back to arrive earlier, altering events to force her to agree to his offer, long before the Inquisition was even called?

 

This would indeed fit with how Alexius is said to have shown up two days after the Conclave explosion with his offer, which is several days before the Inquisition came into existence? With the indeterminate amount of time that the Inquisitor was unconscious after escaping the Fade and the further three days they were unconscious after stabilising the Breach, that gave Alexius enough time to push the offer before the Inquisition even became a blip on the radar and option for the Mage Rebellion to seek aid from?

 

True, Alexius betrayed her because he was always going to do so, but I disagree that Alexius trusted Corypheus, the only reason he seemed to be doing anything was because Cory likely promised to cure his son from ghoulification, if he managed to erase the Inquisitor entirely from history? Factor in that Alexius likely has heard about how Fiona was a Warden but is now free from the taint and that it was most likely the Architect who created the trinklets that could manipulate the taint in her during The Calling, you can imagine that he'd figure Corypheus would be capable of doing the same for Felix?

[Hurbster]

Bioware made her an idiot because she was a special snowflake in the books. They backtracked harder on her than they have on any group - apart from the Grey Wardens maybe.

[Don Lionheart]

 

And how did she betray Alexius?

 

 

I just thought the guy made a typo, haha.

[Sifr]

I just thought the guy made a typo, haha.

 

Could be, I might have been overthinking things again then?

[In Exile]

Just another example of how, even with the longer development cycle, DA:I still feels rushed.

I've always had mixed feelings on these "freeze the battle, let's have a conversation!" scenes.

[Herr Uhl]

 

One of the things that bugged me a lot is how Fiona did not get her due respect when you fight/kill her. She just shows up as a mini-boss in the middle of the fight with no intro (She was nearly dead when I even noticed that I was fighting a elite enemy called "Fiona"). She deserved a cut scene when she shows up and also one as she dies. Her death is hardly acknowledged for such an important character.

 

I kind of enjoy how realistic it is.

 

Reminds me of Cailan dying, though that was in a short cutscene. He just gets picked up and squished. There was no glory in the death, just death.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Reminds me of Cailan dying, though that was in a short cutscene. He just gets picked up and squished. There was no glory in the death, just death.

What use does Cailan have for glory where he's going? 

[MisterJB]

I believe I have found the most perfect summary of this mage rebellion under Fiona.

 

[Boost32]

Just another example of how, even with the longer development cycle, DA:I still feels rushed.

I disagree with you, Fiona was there leading the rebel mages to attack you, there is no need for any kind of dialogue, you are running against the time, why you would try to talk to her?
She got what she deserved, to be forgotten and left buried under the snow.

[o Ventus]

Alistair and Anora trusted Fiona and she betrayed them. Fiona trusted Alexius and he betrayed her. Alexius trusted Corypheus and he betrayed him.

Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

We all know those lazy mages like to steal and eat chicken.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

It's comments like these that don't make me want to be pro-templar

[MisterJB]

It's comments like these that don't make me want to be pro-templar

See this, good people of Thedas?

The Archdemon in on the side of the mages, how long until the darkspawn march side by side with them?
 

Are you going to stand idly by while they burn women and rape chantries? Join the Templars today!

[Giantdeathrobot]

I'd personally have forgiven Fiona for her mistakes, had she shown some backbone and called the alliance off when Alexius blatantly and unilateraly changed the terms of their arrangement when he stated the children would be used for war. This was an obvious indicator that he could not be truated at all, and did not have the interests of the mages at heart one bit. Like Clarel did, this was Fiona's cue to realize her mistake and kick out the 'vints. But she just stood there moping like the waste of space she is, so she gets no respect or sympathy from me.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Alistair and Anora trusted Fiona and she betrayed them. Fiona trusted Alexius and he betrayed her. Alexius trusted Corypheus and he betrayed him.

Lesson of the day, never trust a mage.

 

On top of that, let's remember these wise words from Gimli.

 

All mages are treacherous, elf mages doubly so! 

 

It's comments like these that don't make me want to be pro-templar

 

You need to take things less seriously at times.

[Aimi]

I've always had mixed feelings on these "freeze the battle, let's have a conversation!" scenes.

Mine aren't mixed. I hate them. Similarly, I think that "important enemy NPC surviving battle in gameplay in order to have a cutscene" is incredibly obnoxious and stupid.