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[Lynroy: Final Edition]

Holmes. My favorite fictional character of all time.

 

ToP: I tried to land on Solas from the Rookery. Missed him by that much.

[Al Foley]

You know its a shame that Livus Erimond couldn't have been Corypheus's second in commabd.  

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

*sits on hands, humming*

[Dieb]

Holmes. My favorite fictional character of all time.

 

As is mine. Indiana Jones is my favourite movie (-character), but overall it's Holmes.

 

And I still urge you to watch the interpretation of Jeremy Brett (I won't let this go) of Granada's TV adaption!

 

 

Even the brilliant Cumberbatch admitted he took lots of inspiration from his performance. He kind of introduced the overly energetic, eccentric Holmes. I also love how they used the same set for Baker Street & the apartment in both series - it felt like legitimate time travel when I first watched BBC's Sherlock.

 

 

P.S.: "Did I really do remarkably badly?" -"Yes!" still gets me everytime...

[Al Foley]

You know it took me about ten secods to find my favorite fictional character of all time.  Probably Captain/President John Sheridan.  

[Dieb]

You know it took me about ten secods to find my favorite fictional character of all time.  Probably Captain/President John Sheridan.  

 

You know, I have never watched Babylon 5. How would you sell it to me?

 

(This is only partially because listening to people talk about their favourite things makes me happy just like that)

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

As is mine. Indiana Jones is my favourite movie (-character), but overall it's Holmes.

 

And I still urge you to watch the interpretation of Jeremy Brett (I won't let this go) of Granada's TV adaption!

*snip*

 

Even the brilliant Cumberbatch admitted he took lots of inspiration from his performance. He kind of introduced the overly energetic, eccentric Holmes. I also love how they used the same set for Baker Street & the apartment in both series - it felt like legitimate time travel when I first watched BBC's Sherlock.

 

 

P.S.: "Did I really do remarkably badly?" -"Yes!" still gets me everytime...

I do plan on it if I can ever find them all to binge watch. I can never have enough Holmes.

[Al Foley]

You know, I have never watched Babylon 5. How would you sell it to me?

 

(This is only partially because listening to people talk about their favourite things makes me happy just like that)

*blinks* Blimey.  

 

Well the thing is I find it hard time not to gush about something without spoiling it...or making comparisons which may or may not be effective.  However I do think it is the best written, or one of the best written science fiction/ any series I have ever seen.  Only Game of Thrones has threatened that title in the round about 14 years I first saw the show all the way through.  And, since getting the DVDs for myself I have watched it about a year ever since...plan on doing another rewatch son actually.  

[Dieb]

I do plan on it if I can ever find them all to binge watch. I can never have enough Holmes.

 

There you go, if you ever were so inclined.

 

I think BC is the only other actor besids JB who has an as captivating mere presence as just a person, and their style is very similar. I loved Cumberbatch's performance in the pilot episode, which was based on A Study In Scarlett, specifically his stand off with the murderer. It shouldn't be too alien to you, despite all the even-more-Britishness of course. I just think because of the strict & posh Victorian era backdrop, Holmes' persona stands out even more.

 

The legal situation is shaky, and lots of involved parties no longer exist, so basically all 5 seasons are avalible on YT without too much trouble.

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

There you go, if you ever were so inclined.

 

The legal situation is shaky, and lots of involved parties no longer exist, so basically all 5 seasons are avalible on YT without too much trouble.

Except it's not available in 'Murica.   What the Hell. Gon have to hunt around YT and watch it in 10 min increments it seems.

[Al Foley]

Probably Sheridan's greatest moment...speech...thing...ever.  Watch at your own risk Dieb but its awesome.  Big spoilers. 

[Roamingmachine]

You know, I have never watched Babylon 5. How would you sell it to me?
 
(This is only partially because listening to people talk about their favourite things makes me happy just like that)

It is a series that takes a look at people and the society in a large scale. Ideologies, practicalities and the hard choices needed and what they do to people. It's got some of the best written characters of all time. Its 5 seasons a few movies long and can go from this:



To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJaQtZty5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZdiSeulZ8s

Flowing very naturally. I highly recommend it.

[Al Foley]

It is a series that takes a look at people and the society in a large scale. Ideologies, practicalities and the hard choices needed and what they do to people. It's got some of the best written characters of all time. Its 5 seasons a few movies long and can go from this:



To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJaQtZty5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZdiSeulZ8s

Flowing very naturally. I highly recommend it.

Indeed and one of the first shows, maybe that is why such stories appeal to me...about small people and small lives and characters getting caught up in larger and larger events.  Its a very epic show but its characters are so very grounded and human.  

 

And while sex, nudity, grim dark, and constant death I can appreciate being a part of mature storytelling I can appreciate that B5 was a very mature story without going to those places.  

[Al Foley]

In watching those clips I am not sure how useful it is to use a clip from the B5 prequel movie.  I mean granted its what you can expect of the quality of the show and writing, but its not actually the show.  

[Dieb]

Except it's not available in 'Murica.   What the Hell. Gon have to hunt around YT and watch it in 10 min increments it seems.

 

Wow, I've never had this. Usually it's the absolute other way around for Europeans! I hope you can make it work somehow, the "pressure" is playfulness, of course. I just don't run into many Holmes-fans who don't simply share the global nerd-crush on Cumberbatch alone.

 

I'm just saying, the creators of BBC Sherlock were obviously fans of the Granda Holmes, so as a recent convert to the new series, it's like finally more of what I was used to for me. The most congenial thing about the BBC series is that they really "just" advanced the calendar. My favourite detail is how thanks to our wonderful political situation, 100 years later, Dr. Watson is an Afghanistan campaign veteran... again.

[Dieb]

I appreciate the effort -and I don't mean that as the platitude it usually is- and ironically, your words have actually made me not watch the attached YT vids. If it ever gets on European Netflix, since they regularly add classics just as well, I will give it the shot it apparently well deserves.

 

Just as a heads up, I did watch the Battlestar Galactica pilot, and it didn't urge me to continue watching it. There was... I don't know, no one I really "wanted to follow", I suppose.

[Al Foley]

Anyways coincedentally my favorite female characters in fiction are probably a three way tie between Sam Carter/ Hermione Granger/ and Cassandra Pentaghast...

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What exactly these women have in common only the Maker knows.  

[Al Foley]

I appreciate the effort -and I don't mean that as the platitude it usually is- and ironically, your words have actually made me not watch the attached YT vids.

 

If it ever gets on European Netflix, since they regularly add classics just as well, I will give it the shot it apparently well deserves.

Yeah Loreunner/ Archengia is going to do a rumination series on them soon ™ hopefully and I will be rewatching it with him.  His ruminations on Voyager and some of his other comments of trek has made me actually look at Trek in a whole new light and I think I am appreciating it a lot more actually.  

[Dieb]

Check my edit on the "heads up". I don't know how similarly these shows function, obviously.

 

Just added it, because I understand it also is a geekdom scifi-standard.

[Al Foley]

Check my edit on the "heads up". I don't know how similarly these shows function, obviously.

 

Just added it, because I understand it also is a geekdom scifi-standard.

Do you mean the mini series?  

 

First off on BSG and assuming you are taling about the mini series.  I could not agree more.  Really.  The Miniseris was...not that great.  In all honesty.  BSG gets much better and honestly since I am doing a rewatch of it right now I wonder if execs back at Corporate were trying to demand RDM do X and he did not want to do X so there was this fight between the two.  The show did find its legs almost like corporate laid off and let things proceed a lot more naturally.  Still nowhere good as B5...and...

 

The two are completly different shows.  In tone.  In subject matter.  In characters.  And how it handles them.  The only thing I will caution you against is that B5, like most of the shows that I love, took a while to click for me.  I can't point to a single episode like I can with Who, TWD, Game of Thrones, or SG-1, but B5's first season was...a bit of a build up where...scratch that I think one of the final episodes of season 1 was its clicker too.  

 

I would kind of say that BSG is not fit to shine B5s shoes but that might be a little too tough on BSG.  

[Roamingmachine]

In watching those clips I am not sure how useful it is to use a clip from the B5 prequel movie.  I mean granted its what you can expect of the quality of the show and writing, but its not actually the show.

To showcase the style.

[Al Foley]

As an analogy BSG I did not like because, again Dieb speaks to something, most of the characters in the show were horrible horrible people.  And then the rest of the show spent years trying to put them back together and have them 'grow' again.  Which is good and all, but there was nothing to hook you in.  B5 these are good people but then they **** up along the way somewhere and then have to be put back together again.  That way when something bad happened to these characters or when they did **** up you genuine cared about them and were rooting for them to try and make them get better instead of saying 'good riddance'.  

[Dieb]

Those who got enough depth and screentime in the pilot I did not like, and those who seemed alright, also seemed of lesser importance. I remember vividly how after 30 minutes, I resigned to just sit there and actively think "come on, give me someone whose experience I want to follow for weeks"

 

To steer the conversation to a more general direction again, actually let me expand on that particular line of thinking: I always do that, emphasizing with a particular character. It is mostly not the main character, because as a younger brother, I suffer from self-diagnosed Lancer-disorder.

 

Who's my favourite Star Wars character? Han Solo. Star Trek? Riker. Super Mario? Luigi. Dragon Age? Alistair, Varric, Blackwall. Metal Gear? Grey Fox. Splinter Cell? Biggs. Batman? Nightwing. Robin Hood? William Scarlett. The guy who's just as good, yet slightly different and less recognized for it, that's usually right up my psychological alley.

 

Sadly however, Lancers are the first ones to die, so that's why I have a hard time with shows like GoT in general, and well, most movies. My favourite people are usually the ones who are dramaturgically best used as a sacrifice for tension. "If the just-as-capable-guy died, what will happen to the hero??" is such a pleasant question for most writers, it's become the bane of my entertainment existence.

[Al Foley]

Those who got enough depth and screentime in the pilot I did not like, and those who seemed alright, also seemed of lesser importance. I remember vividly how after 30 minutes, I resigned to just sit there and actively think "come on, give me someone whose experience I want to follow for weeks"

 

To steer the conversation to a more general direction again, actually let me expand on that particular line of thinking: I always do that, emphasizing with a particular character. It is mostly not the main character, because as a younger brother, I suffer from self-diagnosed Lancer-disorder.

 

Who's my favourite Star Wars character? Han Solo. Star Trek? Riker. Super Mario? Luigi. Dragon Age? Alistair, Varric, Blackwall. Metal Gear? Grey Fox. Splinter Cell? Biggs. Batman? Nightwing. Robin Hood? William Scarlett. The guy who's just as good, yet slightly different and less recognized for it, that's usually right up my psychological alley.

 

Sadly however, Lancers are the first ones to die, so that's why I have a hard time with shows like GoT in general, and well, most movies. My favourite people are usually the ones who are dramaturgically best used as a sacrifice for tension. "If the just-as-capable-guy died, what will happen to the hero??" is such a pleasant question for most writers, it's become the bane of my entertainment existence.

IDK about...that...but favorite characters are often not the leads in any given franchise, I think this is even intentional.  The only 'leads' that I would say are my favorite characters are Janeway, Sisko, Rick, John Sheridan...coincidentally.  Tyrion Lannister.  

[Ashaantha]

*sits there fidgeting*

I have no idea what we're talking about anymore