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[Serza]

As portrayed in the movie The Longest Day, Saving Ryan's Privates, and Band of Brothers.  

 

Precisely.

 

Also countless games, among which I remember the Call of Duty series (before they went crap, anyway - even in the first CoD, as the Airborne operations were a part of it), the Medal of Honor series (which included the infamous Omaha beach - kudos for that), Battlefield (I believe there was some of it, no?) and with mods, ArmA (sad look as he remembers the Invasion 1944 mod, and it's absolute silence in regards to an ArmA 3 version of the mod)

[LightningPoodle]

Poodle is correct. The landing I was referring to were the D-Day Landings on the 6th of June, 1944. A major victory for the Allies.

 

At the cost of over 4000 allied lives.

[Serza]

The things I knew.  Rather a bit history buff.  lol.  I just forgot about it because well, again ME, BSN.  

 

Well, I haven't met a person other than Aimi that might pull this out on BSN yet. I think.

[Serza]

At the cost of over 4000 allied lives.

 

You know what's the blackest thing?

 

The Allies had one of their trainings on the southern coast interrupted by a submarine. The casualties of that rose higher than the actual combat losses on Utah beach.

 

But of course, Omaha was the worst by far. I recall that one machinegunner killed a thousand Allies himself - they called him the "Monster of Omaha"

Actually had a good source for it, so I know it's a trustworthy piece of info...

[LightningPoodle]

You know what's the blackest thing?

 

The Allies had one of their trainings on the southern coast interrupted by a submarine. The casualties of that rose higher than the actual combat losses on Utah beach.

 

But of course, Omaha was the worst by far. I recall that one machinegunner killed a thousand Allies himself - they called him the "Monster of Omaha"

Actually had a good source for it, so I know it's a trustworthy piece of info...

 

Heinrich Severloh was his name.

[LightningPoodle]

Well, I haven't met a person other than Aimi that might pull this out on BSN yet. I think.

 

Aimi has a crazy knowledge on historical events.

[Serza]

Heinrich Severloh was his name.

 

Can't argue without research...

 

*does research*

 

Yes.

 

Aimi has a crazy knowledge on historical events.

 

Then again, Aimi has her Masters (?) unlike me, who crashed out of the first semester.

 

Don't worry, if I manage, I'll be the same (probably never)

[LightningPoodle]

Then again, Aimi has her Masters (?) unlike me, who crashed out of the first semester.

 

Don't worry, if I manage, I'll be the same (probably never)

 

History is her thing. It's good to have a thing. She helped me out a couple of times.

[Serza]

History is her thing. It's good to have a thing. She helped me out a couple of times.

 

Same.

[Dieb]

On such a lovely topic I chime in today, feel free to google "Operation Market Garden".

 

17,000 allied soldiers were killed slaughtered in a single, and probably the most fatally miscalculated in the entire war, operation.

[Al Foley]

On such a lovely topic I chime in today, feel free to google "Operation Market Garden".

 

17,000 allied soldiers were killed slaughtered in a single, and probably the most fatally miscalculated in the entire war, operation.

*drinks to salute the lost*

[Serza]

On such a lovely topic I chime in today, feel free to google "Operation Market Garden".

 

17,000 allied soldiers were killed slaughtered in a single, and probably the most fatally miscalculated in the entire war, operation.

 

Market-Garden...

 

You mean the British 6th Airborne up in Oosterbeek, right.

Well, they do say "A Bridge Too Far". I did very much enjoy the depiction of the Operation in Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, which is pretty much the most historically accurate FPS game out there, along with the previous Brothers in Arms titles. It just bummers me that I do not know whether the maps are made according to how the locations looked in real life, or if the locations are all there for the gameplay, and to provide a backdrop to a historical shooter.

[Al Foley]

Market Garden is another heavily documented event in games and movies.  Loved the levels in MOH Frontline involving them.  Up through Arnhem and the Nijmegen Bridge.  Granted the Arnhem level was pretty frickin difficult.  One of the more difficult levels in the game actually.  

[LightningPoodle]

On such a lovely topic I chime in today, feel free to google "Operation Market Garden".

 

17,000 allied soldiers were killed slaughtered in a single, and probably the most fatally miscalculated in the entire war, operation.

 

Christ. 10,000 British Airborne Soldiers and just over 2000 survived. F*ck...

 

That's not counting the 2 American Divisions, as well as the ground forces...

 

I believe that is the definition of FUBAR.

[Al Foley]

This topic is actually depressing me.  

[Dieb]

*drinks to salute the lost*

 

On both sides. What a senseless thing war is.

 

Even though my grandfather is said to have died in that particular battle; imagine among those 5,000 dead Nazis, probably less than a quarter wholeheartedly believed in that godforsaken agenda themselves. You grow up in a land clutched by evil, and are raised to hate, without a chance. And you must believe in that hate to be righteous, how else would you live with yourself? Indoctrinating children with a mindset that guarantees they can never coexist with anyone but their own, is such a cowardly, lowly thing to do.

 

The exact same thing is what's happening in the middle east right now. You can only eradicate an entire people off the face of the earth with more bombs, for every dead terrorists spawns another minor, zealous avenger.

[Al Foley]

On both sides. What a senseless thing war is.

 

Even though my grandfather is said to have died in that particular battle; imagine among those 5,000 dead Nazis, probably less than a quarter wholeheartedly believed in that godforsaken agenda themselves. You grow up in a land clutched by evil, and are raised to hate, without a chance. And you must believe in that hate to be righteous, how else would you live with yourself? Indoctrinating children with a mindset that guarantees they can never coexist with anyone but their own, is such a cowardly, lowly thing to do.

Play on fear and anger instead of hope and compassion.  Not to change the subject too drastically...but lets just say there are certain politicians today that are worrying me for those same reasons.  On both sides.  Not sure they can ever rise to the depravity of Adolph and the Nazis, but the rhetoric again...worries me.  

[LightningPoodle]

Play on fear and anger instead of hope and compassion.  Not to change the subject too drastically...but lets just say there are certain politicians today that are worrying me for those same reasons.  On both sides.  Not sure they can ever rise to the depravity of Adolph and the Nazis, but the rhetoric again...worries me.  

 

Adolf*

[Al Foley]

Adolf*

Whoops.  THank you Poodle.  It is important to call evil by its name. 

[Dieb]

People forget awfully fast.

 

The habit I despise the most, is that in a time of crisis, people will literally jump onto any bandwagon which differs from the current one. The only reason extremist parties in our diplomatic western nations, are getting so much influx, is because the moderate ones haven't done the job. So instead of diagnosing the problem, you change the course, because it guarantees some change, any change.

[Al Foley]

People forget awfully fast.

 

The habit I despise the most, is that in a time of crisis, people will literally jump onto any bandwagon which differs from the current one. The only reason extremist parties in our diplomatic western nations, are getting so much influx, is because the moderate ones haven't done the job. So instead of diagnosing the problem, you change the course, because it guarantees some change, any change.

The irony is both 'extremes' right now is mere two ends of the same pole.  Imagine our political system as a Y.  On one branch you have one extremist party who wants to use the government to micro manage us, on the other end you have yet another party wanting to do the same, where most people are caught on the other extreme 'tail' end, wanting to be left alone but not quite sure how to go about it so they get pulled into the dichtonomy.  

[Serza]

Christ. 10,000 British Airborne Soldiers and just over 2000 survived. F*ck...

 

That's not counting the 2 American Divisions, as well as the ground forces...

 

I believe that is the definition of FUBAR.

 

It indeed is.

 

Also, a Polish Brigade deployed along with the British up north, I believe.

 

This topic is actually depressing me.  

 

No wonder...

 

On both sides. What a senseless thing war is.

 

Even though my grandfather is said to have died in that particular battle; imagine among those 5,000 dead Nazis, probably less than a quarter wholeheartedly believed in that godforsaken agenda themselves. You grow up in a land clutched by evil, and are raised to hate, without a chance. And you must believe in that hate to be righteous, how else would you live with yourself? Indoctrinating children with a mindset that guarantees they can never coexist with anyone but their own, is such a cowardly, lowly thing to do.

 

The exact same thing is what's happening in the middle east right now. You can only eradicate an entire people off the face of the earth with more bombs, for every dead terrorists spawns another minor, zealous avenger.

 

There are always bad eggs, but... they're mostly few and far between.

 

It's likely that most of them just wanted to go back home.

 

Whoops.  THank you Poodle.  It is important to call evil by its name. 

 

Indeed.

 

Drinks?

[Dieb]

Indeed.

 

Drinks?

 

Not for me, thanks. Still anti-alcoholic.

 

 

But you cats go nuts.

[Al Foley]

It indeed is.

 

Also, a Polish Brigade deployed along with the British up north, I believe.

 

 

No wonder...

 

 

There are always bad eggs, but... they're mostly few and far between.

 

It's likely that most of them just wanted to go back home.

 

 

Indeed.

 

Drinks?

I don't drink either.  

[Dieb]

Splendid! Tea for two it is then.