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[akbogert]

Aww, thanks Adam, that's very sweet of you to say.

I haven't yet died, so that makes me happy. Although I'm playing on easy mode, so that probably doesn't say much.

 

I guess it's just become something that annoys me. I love video games and have been fortunate to have grown up playing them, and specifically the kinds of games that demand a great deal of simultaneous coordination. I can compete in fast-paced games like CoD or Halo and do well, even after months or years away from them. A brand new game? No problem -- the muscle memory is mainly already there for years of having played similar titles. And that's all it is. Put me in front of a PC and throw me into Counterstrike or Team Fortress 2 and I'd be completely helpless. For that matter, put me in front of any fighting game, console or arcade, and I will mash buttons and die. We are good at the kinds of games we have experience playing, and the ones we haven't, we tend to struggle with or find completely forbidding. 

 

So my dad has an Xbox One now and every once in a while he will do something I thought I'd never see: he'll try to play Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed. But in ten or twenty minutes he gives up and does something else because it's too complicated for him. And the knowledge that the very mechanics of games are keeping massive swathes of people from experiencing the amazing characters and stories therein bothers me greatly, coming as I do from a literary background. So whenever I see people fighting their way through, just trying to enjoy a game (especially one I personally love), it makes me very happy, but also sad that the struggle even exists. I may personally enjoy platinuming my way through some games (I have the Brass Balls achievement for Bioshock, for example). But I wish there were a more touristy option for folks who don't or can't enjoy that challenge. 

 

/rant

 

This guy puts a funnier spin on it

[straykat]

You can take your time in an FPS story.. just get used to it. Don't worry. Multiplayer is another matter. Getting good means knowing the maps and all the powerup/health points. And no one has patience for you.

[Lady Luminous]

I guess it's just become something that annoys me. I love video games and have been fortunate to have grown up playing them, and specifically the kinds of games that demand a great deal of simultaneous coordination. I can compete in fast-paced games like CoD or Halo and do well, even after months or years away from them. A brand new game? No problem -- the muscle memory is mainly already there for years of having played similar titles. And that's all it is. Put me in front of a PC and throw me into Counterstrike or Team Fortress 2 and I'd be completely helpless. For that matter, put me in front of any fighting game, console or arcade, and I will mash buttons and die. We are good at the kinds of games we have experience playing, and the ones we haven't, we tend to struggle with or find completely forbidding. 
 
So my dad has an Xbox One now and every once in a while he will do something I thought I'd never see: he'll try to play Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed. But in ten or twenty minutes he gives up and does something else because it's too complicated for him. And the knowledge that the very mechanics of games are keeping massive swathes of people from experiencing the amazing characters and stories therein bothers me greatly, coming as I do from a literary background. So whenever I see people fighting their way through, just trying to enjoy a game (especially one I personally love), it makes me very happy, but also sad that the struggle even exists. I may personally enjoy platinuming my way through some games (I have the Brass Balls achievement for Bioshock, for example). But I wish there were a more touristy option for folks who don't or can't enjoy that challenge. 
 
/rant
 
This guy puts a funnier spin on it

Definitely fair. I can rock out most melee games because I'm used to playing a dual daggers rogue or axe carrying warrior. The second I'm forced to play a mage, my eyebrows go up because I have to figure out the mechanics, but even that is easier for me than playing games that require mice. I have terrible, terrible aim; hence why I like melee, just stab them a billion times.

[Lady Luminous]

You can take your time in an FPS story.. just get used to it. Don't worry. Multiplayer is another matter. Getting good means knowing the maps and all the powerup/health points. And no one has patience for you.

I have zero interest in MP; I'm a pure story gamer. I refuse to even boot up MP because it holds no interest for me.

[straykat]

I have zero interest in MP; I'm a pure story gamer. I refuse to even boot up MP because it holds no interest for me.

 

I'm the same way.. but I do it from time to time. But I guess that's kind of the name of the game. I'd probably play more if it was just real friends.

[ravenesse]

I have zero interest in MP; I'm a pure story gamer. I refuse to even boot up MP because it holds no interest for me.

So much OOL THIS!

[ravenesse]

They gave me Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded as the "mystery game" for $3. And it's 4.4gb. What could make Larry 4 gigs. I played the original when I was like 8. It was probably a few megabytes then.

All the voice acting, I suppose.

[akbogert]

I have still not experienced DAIMP. It sounds like it's cooperative in nature? I could be down for that, with the right people.

 

That's my feeling towards multiplayer in general, though. If you're not one of those people who is naturally competitive (in other words, if you don't view a game as you view a sport: something to practice until you excel and can outperform everyone else), then multiplayer tends to be a drag at best and a nightmare at worst. But getting a group of people you know together to play can often be a lot of fun. 

 

Like Borderlands is a fun game, but it is way more fun with friends. 

[straykat]

All the voice acting, I suppose.

 

Ah.. forgot about that.

 

I remember the original where I had to actually type in commands. I got a kick out of that.. I was a naughty kid.

[straykat]

I have still not experienced DAIMP. It sounds like it's cooperative in nature? I could be down for that, with the right people.

 

That's my feeling towards multiplayer in general, though. If you're not one of those people who is naturally competitive (in other words, if you don't view a game as you view a sport: something to practice until you excel and can outperform everyone else), then multiplayer tends to be a drag at best and a nightmare at worst. But getting a group of people you know together to play can often be a lot of fun. 

 

Like Borderlands is a fun game, but it is way more fun with friends. 

 

I'm competitive enough.. I used to play basketball. But I'd also kick your ass if you talked **** or cheated. Or if I didn't like you, you woudn't stick around for long in the first place

[akbogert]

I'm competitive enough.. I used to play basketball. But I'd also kick your ass if you talked **** or cheated. Or if I didn't like you, you woudn't stick around for long in the first place

 

Happily, they've gotten better at including block/mute functions in most games. 

 

Though Xbox Live is a far quieter place once you've accounted for all the bigoted prepubescents. 

[straykat]

Happily, they've gotten better at including block/mute functions in most games. 

 

Though Xbox Live is a far quieter place once you've accounted for all the bigoted prepubescents. 

 

To be fair, I had some fun with ME3 for a little bit. I didn't talk to anyone. It's like everyone was in their own space.. yet somehow worked well together. I don't know about DAI... I'm more annoyed by the whole idea of DAI's multiplayer and it's class of characters. I guess I'm shunning it for pure geeky lore reasons

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Holy Fen'Heral!  I missed 3200 by a country mile!  Hope everyone had a good time, at least.

 

By the way, FWIW I would have never thought anything neferious of Poodle's spunk comment had it not been for the ensuing reactions.  When first read, I assumed it was some UK specific beverage.

 

Also... 

 

  You really are the Carol of DQ, Paragon!  That line reminded me so much of "Look at the flowers, Lizzie, look at the flowers" right before Carol pumped her full of lead.

[Duelist]

I'm competitive enough.. I used to play basketball. But I'd also kick your ass if you talked **** or cheated. Or if I didn't like you, you woudn't stick around for long in the first place

You would hate playing against me at anything then lol.

While I'm generally really quiet, I talk s*** and cheat like crazy when I'm competing.

[Paragonslustre]

I have still not experienced DAIMP. It sounds like it's cooperative in nature? I could be down for that, with the right people.

 

That's my feeling towards multiplayer in general, though. If you're not one of those people who is naturally competitive (in other words, if you don't view a game as you view a sport: something to practice until you excel and can outperform everyone else), then multiplayer tends to be a drag at best and a nightmare at worst. But getting a group of people you know together to play can often be a lot of fun. 

 

Like Borderlands is a fun game, but it is way more fun with friends. 

 

I tried that (3 months subscription).  It didn't really work for me.  I think I could have enjoyed it and I was OK mooching around on my own but suddenly I was joined by a bunch of people who went flying off (some much higher level than me) and all I could do was keep up and cast barrier on everyone - who probably didn't need it anyway  I mean no-one was nasty to me and if I fell, they revived me but it wasn't the team experience I was expecting.  My expectations were probably too high.

[straykat]

You would hate playing against me at anything then lol.

While I'm generally really quiet, I talk s*** and cheat like crazy when I'm competing.

 

At basketball? lol.. yeah, I'd hate that.

 

Some things have less rules. You're a fighter. I wouldn't put it past you to kick me in the balls or something. Maybe gouge my eyes?

[ravenesse]

Holy Fen'Heral!  I missed 3200 by a country mile!  Hope everyone had a good time, at least.
 
By the way, FWIW I would have never thought anything neferious of Poodle's spunk comment had it not been for the ensuing reactions.  When first read, I assumed it was some UK specific beverage.
 
Also... 

 
  You really are the Carol of DQ, Paragon!  That line reminded me so much of "Look at the flowers, Lizzie, look at the flowers" right before Carol pumped her full of lead.

UK spefific beverage!
Damn... Beren... never change!

[Paragonslustre]

Holy Fen'Heral!  I missed 3200 by a country mile!  Hope everyone had a good time, at least.

 

By the way, FWIW I would have never thought anything neferious of Poodle's spunk comment had it not been for the ensuing reactions.  When first read, I assumed it was some UK specific beverage.

 

Also... 

 

  You really are the Carol of DQ, Paragon!  That line reminded me so much of "Look at the flowers, Lizzie, look at the flowers" right before Carol pumped her full of lead.

 

In real life I'm soft as marshmallow  Who eeeeez deeeeeez Carol, Ber?

[akbogert]

Yeah, that sounds a bit like my limited experience in Destiny too: people help, but it's clear they're babysitting you rather than really working alongside you.

 

One game you should definitely never play with strangers until/unless you are good at it? League of Legends. 

[straykat]

I had the Destiny beta and instantly hated it just because it reminded me of MMO's and killstealing... encroaching on my missions and immersion. Bunnyhopping around like some ****** in a comedy movie. I didn't do any competing. I signed up for a cool sci-fi experience. Not that.

 

I'm just too introverted for all of this social **** tbh.

[Beren Von Ostwick]

UK spefific beverage!
Damn... Beren... never change!

I don't think you'll see much changing at this point in my life.

 

In real life I'm soft as marshmallow  Who eeeeez deeeeeez Carol, Ber?

 

This image I just found seems to sum it up nicely.  She's the one character on the zombie show The Walking Dead that I absolutely think will survive all the way.

 

[Paragonslustre]

It is ....... (a UK beverage)

 

 

 

WHAT THE HELL DID YOU THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT?!!!

 

Spoiler

[Lady Luminous]

It is ....... (a UK beverage)
 

 
 
WHAT THE HELL DID YOU THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT?!!!
 

Spoiler

Yep... I'm not drinking that thanks.

[Duelist]

At basketball? lol.. yeah, I'd hate that.

Some things have less rules. You're a fighter. I wouldn't put it past you to kick me in the balls or something. Maybe gouge my eyes?

In my defense, I'm the youngest and smallest (I'm 6'0, the biggest is 6'7) of four brothers so playing dirty became a necessity to avoid losing or being beaten up.

Hell, my older brother still bitches about the time I goaded him into getting sent off during a rugby league game lol.

[straykat]

Ugh. I probably sound like an *******.

 

I actually think gaming is moving away from people like me though.. The lone story based types. So many things have a social element. And more games are even releasing as pure multiplayer. It's like more gamers are using the medium as an outlet for friends. And don't even get me started on the mobile trend. Konami had a success with MGS and now they're gonna trash it for the sake of phone games. lol

 

This is why I hope the industry wakes up to things like the Witcher.. and partly Bioware. But I think the latter is sort of losing it.