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#80126
akbogert

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I like to think more thought out stories in games is starting to make a come back. We shall see, it's only a few new games focusing on it now, hopefully more to come as the new year looms.

 

I'm putting together (and hopefully launching within the next couple months) a website that will deal with what I'm right now calling "narrative media," (e.g., games, comics, films, etc.) and this is something that I mull over a lot. You used the word "focus" and I think that's key, because ultimately games are not designed to tell stories. On one hand, games can be tools for players to tell their own stories. On the other hand, games can be vessels for the creators to tell a story. But autonomy is the tension between these two potentials. If the creator is intent on telling a specific story, little control can be given to the player -- but at some point this subverts the purpose of the medium and suggests the story belongs in something other than a game. Conversely, the draw of a game may be its mechanics and player freedom. These are antithetical to structured narrative, which will put off narrative-driven players but will often garner the highest praises from "gamers." 

 

I've tended to see this dynamic, in many ways, as the reason some people prefer, say, The Witcher or Skyrim. That's facile, perhaps, but then as I said it's something I think about a lot. 


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#80127
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Ugh, the ****** pink bows on Florianne's gown. It would have been perfect avante garde, Orlesian attire if not for those god forsaken bows!
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#80128
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Ugh, the ****** pink bows on Florianne's gown. It would have been perfect avante garde, Orlesian attire if not for those god forsaken bows!

 

I had to pull up an old pic of Dis dancing with her.  I confess I never even noticed those little bows before, assuming you're referring to those two little ones below waist level, which I hope are what you're referring to as I see no others.

 

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ETA:  Ah crap, they're on her shoulder too.



#80129
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I had to pull up an old pic of Dis dancing with her. I confess I never even noticed those little bows before, assuming you're referring to those two little ones below waist level, which I hope are what you're referring to as I see no others.

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ETA: Ah crap, they're on her shoulder too.

Yes, all the stupid little bows on all the gowns.

Who let them decorate with little pink bows?!

#80130
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stormqueen, get an avatar.. it just isn't right. :D

 

 

 

I haven't played Old Republic.. almost did once.. maybe for a rainy day. Or week. I don't know how long it takes to progress.


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#80131
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I'm putting together (and hopefully launching within the next couple months) a website that will deal with what I'm right now calling "narrative media," (e.g., games, comics, films, etc.) and this is something that I mull over a lot. You used the word "focus" and I think that's key, because ultimately games are not designed to tell stories. On one hand, games can be tools for players to tell their own stories. On the other hand, games can be vessels for the creators to tell a story. But autonomy is the tension between these two potentials. If the creator is intent on telling a specific story, little control can be given to the player -- but at some point this subverts the purpose of the medium and suggests the story belongs in something other than a game. Conversely, the draw of a game may be its mechanics and player freedom. These are antithetical to structured narrative, which will put off narrative-driven players but will often garner the highest praises from "gamers." 

 

I've tended to see this dynamic, in many ways, as the reason some people prefer, say, The Witcher or Skyrim. That's facile, perhaps, but then as I said it's something I think about a lot. 

 

I torn between both.. but when push comes to shove, I'm a book/story/narrative junky. And I'd prefer just sitting at someone's feet, much like at a campfire tale.. than put up with nonsense. It's gotta be pretty damn fun nonsense for it to work at least. And few games pull that off.

 

In TES' case, it often is fun nonsense to me. Skyrim was the first I tried taking seriously, but usually I'm just some psycho.


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#80132
Beren Von Ostwick

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Who let them decorate with little pink bows?!

 

You probably don't want to know.

 

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*Beren drinks something tropical*


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#80133
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You probably don't want to know.

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*Beren drinks something tropical*

They just ruin what could have been some truly lovely gowns, and saved themselves some work.

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stormqueen, get an avatar.. it just isn't right. :D

 

I haven't played Old Republic.. almost did once.. maybe for a rainy day. Or week. I don't know how long it takes to progress.

 

I shall boycott avatars!

*sulks at her table*

 

I've been playing Swtor for the past few weeks straight. the Shadow of Revan and Knights ofthe Fallen Empire expansions are glorious prodding to focus on your character's personal story rather then the more mmo-style of one of each class existing at all times so the stories are mixed and have references to stuff from other class' stories.


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#80135
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stormqueen, get an avatar.. it just isn't right. :D

 

 

 

I haven't played Old Republic.. almost did once.. maybe for a rainy day. Or week. I don't know how long it takes to progress.

 

These days gearing and leveling is pretty easy. They've streamlined it A LOT.

Protip: Smuggler storyline is full of lulz :P


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#80136
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I shall boycott avatars!

*sulks at her table*

 

Don't sulk, sis!  If you want to be a mystery, that's your by Maker right.  Sweet dreams :)  *hugs*

 

Alrighty, I'm outta here.  Bedtime for Ber.   XXX OOO DQ.

 

*Ber walks out the door...*

 

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Oof.  That's gonna leave a mark...


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#80137
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These days gearing and leveling is pretty easy. They've streamlined it A LOT.

Protip: Smuggler storyline is full of lulz :P

 

I'll keep that in mind then. I don't want to play a Jedi at least. Something very different from Kotor would be nice.



#80138
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I'll keep that in mind then. I don't want to play a Jedi at least. Something very different from Kotor would be nice.

 

Smuggler story was awesome, I still love my smuggler the most! Agent story is amazing, in my opinion. Not a fan of the trooper one and haven't played a bounty hunter yet. Those are the 4 non-force using classes. My sith Warrior is my second fav class, Jedi consular close up there too but it is more a generic sort of story for a jedi. Sith are more fun to play then jedi...


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#80139
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I'll keep that in mind then. I don't want to play a Jedi at least. Something very different from Kotor would be nice.

 

I really think that SWTOR contains some of the best player-character development that BW has created. To give an example, my Twi'lek smuggler started out as pretty much as this guy:

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(Only blue. And female :P)

 

And the story allowed me to develop her in a believable and logical fashion in to, well, her:

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(My smugglers lekku are more glorious, though :P)

 

It really felt like 'my' story. I can't really recall any game that has managed that to the degree that this game does.


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#80140
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That's encouraging. And since you like Jade Empire, I won't write you off. :P



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^ I'm with Roaming on that. it's not just one class/character story I got that feeling from either, only one caused disinterest in me.. trooper.. but my bf loved that one so it is still personal tastes.



#80142
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I like the bounty hunter storyline too. And i'm sure it has nothing to with how you can become a mandalorian during it :P

Haven't progressed very far in the trooper storyline yet but i like it so far. Very military. Voiced by Jennifer Hale, my trooper is basically Shepard with with horns (she's Iridonian :P ).


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#80143
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I want a keg of peach brandy I can fit my hole head in! Lucky Sera gets some; we need a keg here DQ!
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#80144
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Yes, all the stupid little bows on all the gowns.
Who let them decorate with little pink bows?!


The same person(s) who designed the majority of the other in-game outfits, usable or not.
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#80145
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I want a keg of peach brandy I can fit my hole head in! Lucky Sera gets some; we need a keg here DQ!

 

You rang?

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#80146
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The same person(s) who designed the majority of the other in-game outfits, usable or not.

Been saying for years they need to hire a stylist...
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#80147
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You rang?
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Well done sir!

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*zombie walks into the tavern*directly heads to the vending machine*gets her beloved xxl mug full with cherry grogTM*
*mumbles*
Something feels wrong.
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#80149
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Er .... Raven, you have a little something stuck to your face .... *hands Raven a mirror*
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#80150
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Er .... Raven, you have a little something stuck to your face .... *hands Raven a mirror*

Hmmmmm?
*takes a look*panics*shakes Poodle off*
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