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[AresKeith]

The problem is first time through a game we don't know if not asking that question might lock out a quest or  change the story somehow. The thing with that line in Leliana is it comes out of left field. She's told us that the HoF was her soul mate and that she admired the Divine on religious and personal grounds. It's like, if your comforting a widow right after the funeral of her husband and his co worker comes over and gives the wife a hug and you nudge her in the ribs, "You and him doing it?" You know, if they had added a fourth option in dialogue so we could play some kind of socially clueless inky who said those kind of things all the time I'd love it. "So Alexius, your kids gonna kick the bucket soon huh."

 

How is asking if she and another person were lovers might lock out a quest?

[MikeJW]

How is asking if she and another person were lovers might lock out a quest?

How does not stopping her from killing a double agent the second time you talk to her lock her into crazy Leliana mode? First time through you have no idea what the options open up. Maybe if I ask she says they were and mentions a locket and later I find that locket...

[Aesir26]

Like that stops crazy fans to believe it anyway.

 

Fandoms also assumes that hate/dislike = sexual tension

 

That is definitely true. The whole Anders/Fenris thing in the fandom still baffles me.

[GeorgiegGirl]

I think every hero has the ability to be a douche lol

[KaiserShep]

I think every hero has the ability to be a douche lol

 

It's our Developer-given right. The Warden should knife that rotten merchant in Lothering, and kill Brother Genitivi. Hawke should definitely give Fenris to Danarius, and by Athame's prothean head ridges, Shepard should shoot Mordin in the back!

[l7986]

Like that stops crazy fans to believe it anyway.

 

Fandoms also assumes that hate/dislike = sexual tension

So your saying Fenris and Anders don't secretly want to bone...

[Chuvvy]

No one can come close to shepard in the lack of tact department.

[Orian Tabris]

No one can come close to shepard in the lack of tact department.

 

Um... you don't happen to be referring to "We'll bang ok?"?

 

You can't mean "I should go." because Quizzy says that, too.

[KaiserShep]

No one can come close to shepard in the lack of tact department.

Whatchu talkin' 'bout Chuvvy? Shepard's got so much swagger that tact can't even handle it right now.

 

A bullet to the head solves everything.

 

You big stupid jellyfish!

 

I'm p*ssed off, and when I'm p*ssed off I shoot things! Find me more bugs!

 

Hey everyone! This store discriminates against the poor!

[SabreTastic]

Like that stops crazy fans to believe it anyway.

 

Fandoms also assumes that hate/dislike = sexual tension

 

"Just because two people dislike each other doesn't mean they're about to kiss, Sparkler."

 

 

The OP examples are how the recipient takes the inquiry, not necessarily how it was always asked.

eg. Quizzy askes Leliana how close was she to the Divine, Leliana then immediately takes that as innuendo. Quizzy phrased it in a way that Leliana could have just said she was like a mother to her. The fault is with Leliana's perception.

 

I am aware that I am not the sharpest tool in the wit/banter/innuendo/flirt(?) shed at all times.

 

But I remember those three instances particularly well because, at the time, I felt like that was exactly what was going on. Sometimes it makes me think that elcor have something going for them. Wouldn't things be easier if they were prefaced by 'Genuine Query. You and the Divine were close, weren't you?' [heated response] 'Aghast murmur. I simply wished to offer my sympathies.'

 

But now that I've had more time to think on it and gotten to know Dorian better, I've decided that those three do have legitimate reasons for jumping the gun and being defensive on those respective issues. So it's not necessarily that the Inquisitor asked a 'bad' question, but that those are just hot-button topics for those three and they're hard-wired, to some extent, to hear 'YOU WERE HAVING THE SEX, YES?' or 'YOU ARE A BAD MAN!' Though I thought that Dorian handled it well. I didn't feel scolded for a moment of innocent (from my perspective), friendly inquiry but I was made to understand rather effectively that that was not a topic he approved of discussing.

[In Exile]

How does not stopping her from killing a double agent the second time you talk to her lock her into crazy Leliana mode? First time through you have no idea what the options open up. Maybe if I ask she says they were and mentions a locket and later I find that locket...

 

She's not crazy. Just ruthless. That's very different. 

[Chiramu]

"What's going on here?" ~ Inquisitor talking to the Divine and Corypheus.

 

What an awful line. If you see someone like that attacking an innocent woman you do not ask such a stupid question. You attack the offender instead of ask, it is quite obvious who is in the wrong and who is in the right in that situation. 

[Qun00]

Those are optional, you know.

[Ieldra]

While I fully understand how hard it can be to not use a conversation option because you're afraid you might miss something interesting...

 

...those queries are optional, and even the paraphrases - oh miracle of miracles - are clear enough to indicate where the conversation will be going.

[Sifr]

While the question about various characters being lovers is a tad tactless, the Inquisitor does say it in a slightly halting way, as though they are trying not to be rude when they ask, realising it's a rather loaded question?

 

Still, I think probably the most untactful moment in the game comes when you have the option during the Charger's meet and greet to ask about Krem being transgendered, with at least two of the three options coming off as incredible blunt and insensitive to ask, especially since it's done in front of all of his friends.

[Orian Tabris]

While the question about various characters being lovers is a tad tactless, the Inquisitor does say it in a slightly halting way, as though they are trying not to be rude when they ask, realising it's a rather loaded question?

 

Still, I think probably the most untactful moment in the game comes when you have the option during the Charger's meet and greet to ask about Krem being transgendered, with at least two of the three options coming off as incredible blunt and insensitive to ask, especially since it's done in front of all of his friends.

 

I have to agree with this. I feel liking it would be disrespectful to the sentiment, so I won't.

[Kulyok]

Blackwall was a criminal, Leliana did seem to be a touch too close with the former Divine, and Dorian-Felix screamed "pairing" in my game. So, pretty obvious questions to ask.

 

Most of all, I still wonder whether Dalish from the Iron Bull's Chargers is male or female. Because that was totally male voice in every line.

[berelinde]

^^ It's a bow!

 

Sorry, wrong staff.

[Nefla]

But in my playthrough it went:

 

Blackwall: "I heard you were in the Carta, does that mean you were a CRIMINAL?"

[Lingvort]

Honestly, the first option annoyed me slightly. No, that's not what I implied by "more than friends"!

[Solbranthius]

Neither does Cassandra but we adore her. 

 

She's blunt in a different way though. She doesn't come across as stupid, just very direct and driven. The Inquistor on the other hand...

[leaguer of one]

Um... you don't happen to be referring to "We'll bang ok?"?

 

You can't mean "I should go." because Quizzy says that, too.

ME1.

 

Shepard: What happen to your race is the same thing that happened to mine.

 

Wrex: ......Human what is wrong with you.

[Dayze]

Wait.....maybe I misinterpreted it but I thought Leliana admitted to having a relationship with the divine?

 

I remember her getting po'd but basically saying, yeah we had a relationship like that.

[Han Shot First]

Wait.....maybe I misinterpreted it but I thought Leliana admitted to having a relationship with the divine?

 

I remember her getting po'd but basically saying, yeah we had a relationship like that.

 

She gets offended at the suggestion, but not because they were lovers. She gets offended because Justinia was a mother figure for her. 

[Neon Rising Winter]

"What's going on here?" ~ Inquisitor talking to the Divine and Corypheus.

 

What an awful line. If you see someone like that attacking an innocent woman you do not ask such a stupid question. You attack the offender instead of ask, it is quite obvious who is in the wrong and who is in the right in that situation. 

 

Oh yes that, that one is awful. It's not the line itself, so much as the delivery of it. It's done with the air of someone who's just come in from work to find everyone in the kitchen and is asking them what they're up to. I guess the context was mislaid when it was recorded.