Not like game changers, but you ought to be able to hover close to a fellow character still fighting and give them a small armor boost, or a slow-slow heal or something. At the very very least you should be able to signal for trouble.
Thoughts? I think there should be a proximity effect for a spirit hovering around a teammate. Also, why can't we see other dead people?
On the one hand, punishing the team for mistakes by removing players after 3 strikes makes sense. On the other, I do like the idea of having some incentive for Faded players to still participate and help out the team.
It would have to be something helpful but not open to abuse. Don't want an AW bringing along 3 lvl 1s to suicide on Perilous each providing +50% damage. Needs to be good enough to incentivize continued participation, but much worse than not having died in the first place.
You can signal for trouble by moving around the map and pressing the "over here" button (F4). So far I find that's good enough to help out.
You can signal for trouble by moving around the map and pressing the "over here" button (F4). So far I find that's good enough to help out.
That has never worked for me 
On the one hand, punishing the team for mistakes by removing players after 3 strikes makes sense. On the other, I do like the idea of having some incentive for Faded players to still participate and help out the team.
It would have to be something helpful but not open to abuse. Don't want an AW bringing along 3 lvl 1s to suicide on Perilous each providing +50% damage. Needs to be good enough to incentivize continued participation, but much worse than not having died in the first place.
Yeah but it doesn't have to be something so massive--and it definitely shouldn't stack. I was thinking like a small boost to cooldown or mana/stamina regen. Or armor.
This would make it more necessary to see other dead teammates. Which baffles me that we cannot.
That has never worked for me
Maybe it's a glitch. The option is there for when it does work, though. 
You can already help out, if I get stuck in the fade, I move about the map, I push target on assassins and such, as well as doing the over here thing on downed players or treasure rooms/pots, what they need to do is make it so you can either jump, or pass through certain objects.
Plus you can take the time to study the enemies by moving your marker over them - seeing what immunities they have, what elements they are weak against, how much health and armor they have. Might not help your teammates in that exact match, but can help you in the long run. I easily forget what kind of templar is weak against fire and what kind is weak against ice, who is immune to fear and so on 
I already thought there was benefits to being in the fade. Gives me some time to go make a coffee.
On a serious note, would be cool if you could actually do something productive and continue to contribute to the party if you die.
Have you tried not dieing?
Have you tried playing Khatari.... cause I haven't but I've heard things, awful things.
Have you tried playing Khatari.... cause I haven't but I've heard things, awful things.
Yea I played Katari. He bad. Depends what difficulty though. I have Sulevin blade. If you farming threatening he fine, can steamroll that pugging with average group. Hulk smash that ish. I don't bring him to perilous. Cuz... lol Katari. But, yea ..you get 3 deaths. Just don't die. And just don't bring a Katari into perilous.
I scout for my team.
With the drops I have and my totally crap gear the loss of team DPS is marginal and the scouting info probably outweighs my DPS 
Have you tried not dieing?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Anyone else think this is one of B00g13's alts?
Ah, of course the fade scrub would post in a thread about being in the fade.
Anyone else think this is one of B00g13's alts?
Uh no?
Have you tried not dieing?
Yes. And it's spelled "dying".
Plus you can take the time to study the enemies by moving your marker over them - seeing what immunities they have, what elements they are weak against, how much health and armor they have. Might not help your teammates in that exact match, but can help you in the long run. I easily forget what kind of templar is weak against fire and what kind is weak against ice, who is immune to fear and so on
True but kind of boring, I meant more interactively. 
You can already help out, if I get stuck in the fade, I move about the map, I push target on assassins and such, as well as doing the over here thing on downed players or treasure rooms/pots, what they need to do is make it so you can either jump, or pass through certain objects.
I've tried this before but it never seems to work for me. Of course sound and signals only work half the time anyway. But this is interesting I'll give it a shot, thanks.
Every game has quacks that think you should be rewarded for dying. No.
I read "quack". Then I saw your profile pic. I lol'ed.
In this case, I think it's less a matter of being "rewarded for dying" than introducing a mechanic that gives dead players a reason to still participate. Again, it would have to be something minor but helpful as an incentive to not just afk once you're down. I think that would be a good thing.
Every game has quacks that think you should be rewarded for dying. No.
For the record I'm usually the last man standing. It takes a lot to bring down my elementalist--usually. Doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy having something to do when I do bleed out. And dying can still be a massive loss for the team, doesn't mean you can't slightly balance this with some minor benefit.
Possessing animals would be fun...then you could force it to cough up that damn key 
(Anxiously awaiting the patch for consoles)
I would like some form of girls shower room that I can spy on from the fade.
I would like some form of girls shower room that I can spy on from the fade.
Okay...........
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