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[Orian Tabris]

Well, the mark is largely benign. It doesn't turn the Inquisitor into a supergod or something, it may never come off, and it glows then disappears - during which, tricky sh!t happens, only the PC can do.

 

I have no problems with the PC being holier-than-thou, though, as long as we can try to deny it, and aren't actually at the level of godhood. Though it would be more fun to go back to being a nobody from nowheresville, and working your way up to a more heroic figure, rather than a godsend. I liked the idea of us being big and important.

[Majestic Jazz]

DAI is nothing but an exaggertion of the DA2 criticisms.

People hated thd closed in urban DA2 world.....so they make many large unique worlds full of mmo style quest.

People hated the smaller more personable story of Hawke and said it wasnt epic enough....so they make you a borderline religious prophet in DAI who saves the world from doom!!!

People hated how everyone was bi sexual in DAI......so they now make romances sex gated and race gated.

Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

[Orian Tabris]

We should all remember that BioWare can't please everyone.

[Kimberly]

I think the premise for this game was interesting. I like how it was proved inky wasn't the herald of Andraste. But I agree with your post. This game felt too big to me. More story and less open world. I hope they get the balance of the next game right,

[Ravenfeeder]

I must admit I would have liked to have seen various consequences of the Inquisitors reaction to the mark. If he embraced the "Herald of Andraste" moniker or denied it, especially after the revelations later in the plot. I have no problem with epic scope, it's what Bioware seem to do best, I'd just like to see more exploration of people's reaction to the protagonist taking this role. We got some of it from Cass and Varric, but I'd have liked to have seen more. As always MORE, MORE, MORE.

 

People hated thd closed in urban DA2 world.....so they make many large unique worlds full of mmo style quest.

People hated the smaller more personable story of Hawke and said it wasnt epic enough....so they make you a borderline religious prophet in DAI who saves the world from doom!!!

When they were advertising this for DA2 I was really interested in these, but the implementation did not give them to us. The urban world was more a series of spots for thugs to attack you, it never felt like a realised urban environment. But worse was the 'personal' story, which wasn't. Hawke was just a side-show in someone else's story, it was never about his life, it was about the shittiness of the Mage-Templar conflict, something that the writers could never get me to want to be involved with.

[Majestic Jazz]

It was about Hawke and his or her rise to become Champion by being part of my events.

[Ravenfeeder]

I never felt any connection to the story. To the point that half-way through Act 3 I decided that Hawke had had enough and went off to sea with Isabella never to return to somewhere that had nothing for him. I never finished the game. Yes the shitty combat and unlikeable companions had something to do with it, but at the core it was the disconnect from the plot that turned me off completely.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Why stop a winning formula?

[Raoni Luna]

Laughed when I read the thread title...

 

However, it isn't so much that you're the Jesus 2.0 (because in game, you actually have the choice of denying the outrage of being some religious chosen one, or you can be a believer) it's more about the fact that everybody else believes it and... I suppose, still believes whether you deny it or not.

 

Which is why after Here Lies the Abyss I wanted to party.

 

I like to see it as a good reflection on human nature, expressed into this game.

I got the topic idea but Jesus didn't have an army. He also was so unimportant that there is not registers of his life besides the Bible and some late documents. Jesus was in fact a no one. For your Inquisitor to be Jesus he would have be ignored for decades and then the chantry use him as a fable to conquer other people.

 

I'm a believer, I'm a christian, so don't take me wrong. but I'm also fan of facts and if you go by facts the Inquisitor have absolutely NOTHING in common with Jesus, neither did Andraste (except for the myth). They do however bear simmilarities with the messiah that the jews waited, that was promised for them in the Old Testament, which some people belive to be Jesus and most jews don't.

 

Even if you believe completely in the Bible still Inquisitor is nothing like Jesus, Jesus didn't build anything neither he ordered his followers to build anything, the concept of church in the bible never was an organization or an institution, it was just the idea of christians sharing a life-style and a belief. It was more like a religious-comunism. For the Inquisitor to be Jesus he would have to restrain all his power, surrender himself to Corypheus and then die sharing his power (the holy spirit) with everybody, so that anyone could close breaches and by joining their forces they could defeat Corypheus. Jesus left it up to us. The Inquisitor is the exact opposite, he is the one doing things, he is the hero, he is a savior, in fact. Jesus, unless you believe his godhood, was nothing but a schizo (serious, dude had megalomania among other sympthoms too technical for me to go into) teacher with some good teachings and others not that good. Despite the myth claiming Jesus was son of god and ruler of all the universe in this material world (aka out of the Fade) he was but a guy who died for challenging the powers of both the jew and the roman leaders.

[Gerula81]

Nicely said.

 

Jesus did not pick elfroot either!

[Riven326]

exactly its like Bioware doesn't have their own vision for the DA games I mean its good to listen to fan criticism but to go overboard like this?

very lame and I expected more from Bioware

I don't think they do. Just look at all the revisions that have been made in the sequels in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age, especially Dragon Age. It's obvious to me that the company makes it up as they go along and relies on broad concepts rather than a vision of what something should be and sticking to it.

[HK-90210]

 

I liked the storyline in DA:I, and I'd be fine with a repeat in DA4. With some minor adjustments, of course. And more Cassandra.

[Phoe77]

To me, Origins treats the protagonist in the same way, except there's no reason given as to why he's in charge.  Both protagonists lead an army and both protagonists stop the world from being torn apart.  Origins even allows us the possibility of giving our lives to stop the archdemon.  If you do that, your character is giving their lives to get rid of an archdemon, one of the clearest embodiments of mortal sin in Thedas.  That's not very different from the Inquisitor, except they can't die doing it and people in the setting believe that there's some divine plan.  

 

Anyway, I though it was a neat direction.  It's interesting to see the parallels between Andraste's legends, and it gives your character some interesting things to consider and respond to. 

[uzivatel]

Chances are the DA4 protagonist is going to lead slave revolt in Tevinter and to save the world by overthrowing some evil magisters. Or something like that.

[Jawzzus]

Because no other RPG does the saving the world thing..no wait wait..they all do.

[Riven326]

Chances are the DA4 protagonist is going to lead slave revolt in Tevinter and to save the world by overthrowing some evil magisters. Or something like that.

No, they'll kill the Inquisitor in the first ten minutes of the game and bring him back.

[uzivatel]

Because no other RPG does the saving the world thing..no wait wait..they all do.

All the successful do.

[Cyonan]

I'd like to see them take another shot at DA2's style where we were nothing special until half way through the game, and even then it was because of personal ability rather than something else.

 

Even in Origins, the Warden is mainly special because of your treaties and darkspawn blood drinking. You basically show up at people's door/forest and say "Hi, you're contractually obligated to help me".

[Vox Draco]

Well, considering that our Quizzy enters teh stage during a most holy crisis of faith (death of the conclave) that shatters the minds of maybe the whole of chantry-Thedas? It makes perfect sense for her to be viewed as some kind of prophet, messiah, herald of a god. I am perfectly fien here with that

 

(I was way more annoyed by the aftermath of ME3 with The Shepard and all that nonsense, THAt was truly stupid beyond reasoning...^^)

 

Yet I will agree that DA4 should please, pretty please, avoid such stuff. I have no problems with a young hero growing into the saviour-role over the course of the story/game. But pelase start it slow, and don't overdo it. And please NO CHOSEN ONE! I hate chosen ones...

 

Just a normal guy/gal thrown into the frying pan, confronted with impossible odds and growing to be strong and capable (though NOT from zero to hero!)

[Riven326]

I'd like to see them take another shot at DA2's style where we were nothing special until half way through the game, and even then it was because of personal ability rather than something else.

 

Even in Origins, the Warden is mainly special because of your treaties and darkspawn blood drinking. You basically show up at people's door/forest and say "Hi, you're contractually obligated to help me".

You have to wonder, though, who would enforce the obligation if they turned the Warden down?

[Spankatola]

Yeah, give me a game where I'm somebody's ******, where I either have to do as I'm told or the game ends. That sounds awesome. Turns out I live that RPG every day.