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[Chiramu]

I don't really care for the Mass Effect series, the story and the world doesn't do it for me. Not too mention I could never feel any similarities with Shepard, so I don't care about Shepards' story.

[Noelemahc]

I think Hanako wants a story driven Gundam RPG style...

 

And the idea itself is actually... amazing.

Sort of like this?

 

 

ME4 where all the indoctrination theorists were right

 

i'd die laughing 

And BioWare wouldn't be able to sell it to anyone except a couple of the people that bought ME3 because it was marketed as a "perfect jumping-on point". Wonderful.

[Johnsen1972]

I still hope we get a story based game without the annyoing, time consuming, collecting and filler quests. Im not going to preorder Bioware games anyway. Too many bugs. I will wait at least 6 month before I buy them. 

[GhostXl]

More fetch guests and no more cutscenes.

[Johnsen1972]

More fetch guests and no more cutscenes.

omg... that will completley destroy my faith in Bioware.....

[Shelidon]

Why in god's name is the subject of this in all caps?

No idea here, but I find it hilarious that this thread is sitting next to the "Wait, why are we yelling!?" one...

[ioannisdenton]

I haven't played Mass Effect at all. I don't have the time to get into it.

 

Based on what I've seen online, I'm not interested in fighting a space war that involves alien races. We're already getting a new Star Wars film to enjoy.

 

Personally I'd rather see try something that's similar to the Honor Harrington novels, or Gundam, where it's just humanity warring against itself in outer space.

your loss. a big one. seriously.

[ioannisdenton]

bioware pull your .... together.
I loved Da:I BUT:
Give us more main story
No open world crap anymore, too many games are open world, as it sacrifices strong narrative
Give us a nightmare or insanity worthy of the title
No more OVERLEVELING DAMN IT!!!!
No crafted items at all OR if you include them at least pout some level requirements in them unlike DaI (they broke the game)

[Wargaron]

24 slightly different bald hairstyles for both male and female

[9TailsFox]

Really the story of ME3 was pretty bad and with the stellar handling of Characters "Jacob/Thane" there was 2 and I mean only 2 good parts and that was Tuchanka & Rannoch everything else was bad.
With Casey Hudson gone now all they need to do is keep Mac Walters away from the Script and then maybe I'll get ME4 but only if Mac Walters isn't writing it.

Casey Hudson not making ME4? Thank the Maker. And we should replace Mac Walters with Patrick Weekes. And we have no horrible story maybe have even good one.

[BobZilla84]

Casey Hudson not making ME4? Thank the Maker. And we should replace Mac Walters with Patrick Weekes. And we have no horrible story maybe have even good one.

Dont get me wrong I am sure alot of people loved ME3 and I really wanted to but 2 quality sections out of a whole game is unacceptable combined with Mac Walters personal prefrences leaking into the final script "Liara being involved in everything".

Seriously B-Ware its not good game design when you put your own prefrences over everything else."Liara over Everyone else"

[Scofield]

Casey Hudson not making ME4? Thank the Maker. And we should replace Mac Walters with Patrick Weekes. And we have no horrible story maybe have even good one.

You make me laugh, seriously you do, why? because you have no clue, it is ppl like you that make gaming forums what they are and that is legit places legit fans do not want to ever visit, so 10 minutes of your "game" never turned out the way you wanted it, big deal, you do realize that without them 3 you just touted there would nigh never have been a ME in a form that you "love" you do understand this yes? but what am i saying you cant, your perfection personified, you do 100% work at work/school an never once fall below the grade.

 

Pathetic

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I have to ask you two things: what would you expect it to have, and why do none of the currently existing Bandai-made games satisfy you? They seem to put them out by the dozen these last few decades, and quite a lot of them are pretty damn good.

I never said none of the other games satisfied me. I just love the thought of Bioware and Sunrise working together on a Gundam game. 

[Kondorr]

Casey Hudson not making ME4? Thank the Maker. And we should replace Mac Walters with Patrick Weekes. And we have no horrible story maybe have even good one.

 

I think the guy got a lot of unjustified hate, even from me (but off-this-forum). He was responsible for Mass Effect and his Bosses... those with the E and the A (that is supposed to stand for Art) cut it all down.

The game was postponed and it still did not contain everything... they not only butchered the Rachni but also the ending... at least they managed to somewhat salvage the ending and smooth things over with the Citadel DLC.... but in the end it was EA.
Those guys you mentioned... I believe those and Drew K. are what made the ME universe so great, sleek and stylish.

And the ME games never had bad story. The third one had a very bad ending, the second one had a hilariously bad end boss, but that's it... the rest is great. Talking with the Thorian, Vigil, Leviathan, the Shadowbroker...

I think when you watch the Casey Hudson reviews today, the one's where he actually says, that the endings or not really definable as A,B or C,  he does not really look that happy and confident in those (enthusiastic)...I think that is the point where the business side of EA hit those guys so hard...

I hope EA will see now... that a longer development period, and more content will sell a BioWare game better, than a streamlined DA2 expirience... or a butchered almost masterpiece ME3

I hope BioWare will return the A to EA... I am just sad, that those original guys are not there anymore...

[BobZilla84]

I think the guy got a lot of unjustified hate, even from me (but off-this-forum). He was responsible for Mass Effect and his Bosses... those with the E and the A (that is supposed to stand for Art) cut it all down.
The game was postponed and it still did not contain everything... they not only butchered the Rachni but also the ending... at least they managed to somewhat salvage the ending and smooth things over with the Citadel DLC.... but in the end it was EA.
Those guys you mentioned... I believe those and Drew K. are what made the ME universe so great, sleek and stylish.
And the ME games never had bad story. The third one had a very bad ending, the second one had a hilariously bad end boss, but that's it... the rest is great. Talking with the Thorian, Vigil, Leviathan, the Shadowbroker...
I think when you watch the Casey Hudson reviews today, the once where he actually says, that the endings or not really definable as A,B or C, he does not really look that happy and confident in those...I think that is the point where the business side of EA hit those guys so hard...
I hope EA will see now... that a longer development period, and more content will sell a BioWare game better, than a streamlined DA2 expirience... or a butchered almost masterpiece ME3
I hope BioWare will return the A to EA... I am just sad, that those original guys are not there anymore...

Dont get me wrong I do blame EA for B-Ware's F-Ups "DA2,ME3".

Now DAI being mostly filler content is all on B-Ware though not EA and EA didnt push Liara on us B-Ware did I love how we had alot of LI's but if you romanced anyone from ME2 you were screwed.

[Swordfishtrombone]

And the ending? It got fixed. I am so angry to see people constantly discrediting ME3, otherwise a perfect game, for a no-happy ending, which for the first time in the gaming history, got amended.

 

No, it really did not get fixed. The EC addressed only the minor complaints with the ending, which, for me, were never that much of an issue to begin with. There WERE people who complained about the things the extended cut gave more illumination to, but there were deeper, more fundamental flaws with the whole logic of the ending, that simply weren't fixable, without scrapping at least the last ten minutes of the game, and starting over.

 

There are a number of problems that really make the ending one that you'd better not think about too closely.

 

*mass effect series spoilers ahead*

 

Spoiler

One of the problems with the ending is that it invalidates mass effect 1's plot entirely. If the catalyst was always the space boy in the Citadel, who was in control of the reapers, then why would he need someone else to breach the citadel and manually activate the conduit? He's in control of the citadel, and the reapers already, does he really need someone to manually push a button? Really?

 

The second major problem is a bizarre break with story precedent. UNIFORMLY, in the mass effect series, contact with the reapers has lead only to indoctrination - never has there been an occasion where someone made a deal with a reaper that didn't end up with them becoming a tool of the reapers.

 

Now consider that Shepard knows this better than anyone. The LAST thing Shepard would do is trust anything that the reapers promise. So, in the ending, Shepard sees an apparition that takes it's form from the memories of Shepard - thus proving to Shepard that the reapers are already in her head. This apparition then goes on to explain the bizarre scenario he tries to convince you of, and you, as a player, don't even have the option to express skepticism that the apparition is what he says he is, and that he could do what he claims to be able to do, OR that he WOULD do what you wanted.

 

So contrary to what all her prior experience has conditioned her to do, she becomes totally gullible, and accepts what the entity claiming to be in control of the mind-dominating reapers says at face value.

 

And even more bizarrely, what the space boy tells you is, supposedly, actually true. The reapers who thus far have not done anything truthfully, in their dealings with any other intelligence, honestly, and without deceit, place their fate totally in Shepard's hands. This strains credulity to far, far beyond braking point. It is not consistent with the rest of the story. It is a jarring break from anything that came before.

 

There more problems of this kind than I have the time or patience to write about here, but one more that I have to mention involves a total break from the GENRE of the mass effect series. And that is the "synthesis" option given to you; it's pure fantasy. There's no even pseudo-scientific-bable explanation that would work to make it plausible that all organic life suddenly sprouts electronic parts, as a response to some wave of energy. Good science fiction requires that even fantastic events are given some plausible mechanism. If you can't do that, then you are not writing science fiction, you are writing fantasy.

 

Finally, it is well known that the "deus ex machina" solution to a story is a lazy way out, when a writer has written himself into a corner, and can't think of a way out. This was a total "deus ex machina" ending.

 

Perhaps the ending could have been salvaged if they changed the space boy into the "last temptation" instead of a solution - where doing anything but rejecting all that the space boy offers (in an attempt to deceive you), would result in the reapers successfully indoctrinating you, and using you to defeat your former allies. Rejecting the space boy would have triggered a continuation that ended in the successful destruction of the reapers.

 

But the above are the major problems with the ending, that the EC didn't address at all. It's just abysmally bad writing, the worst to come out of Bioware, ever, I think.

[roadrunnerNM]

Nothing. No, sorry, the Mass Effect universe is dead to me after the horror that was ME3. Too bad -- it's a great universe, but I ME3 really was that bad, IMO. And I adore Liara. Plus she's useful. Well, she would be if I could ever bring myself to play the ME series again. Not likely.

[luckybaer]

Maybe ME4 will have something to do with that planet upon which some of the survivors landed upon.

 

It has the potential for a brand new start and storyline.  It could be a good point for gamers new to ME to jump on in.  

 

I'll be on the lookout for any information pertaining to ME4.  I am really curious to see in which direction the franchise will be taken.

[DirkJake]

Hopefully, ME4 will include exploration of areas as large as in DAI but with more content in it and with slightly more connection to the main story. 

 

I wish they move away from Shepard story. As much as I love Shepard trilogy, including ME 3 endings, I think it is time to move on.