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[Pasquale1234]

But I get your meaning:  when going into battle, one should wear the appropriate gear, not sexy club outfits.  However, I think some of this judgment is based on a bit of ignorance.  For example, it's fairly standard practice in science fiction for space explorers, or what have you, to wear a form fitting jumpsuit on board ships.  This clothing is (literally) a space age fabric, with some thermal properties, but more importantly, functions as an under armor layer.  When in a spaceship, the ability to quickly don spacesuits and armor would be imperative.  The snug, flexible, stretchy under armor worn as clothing would facilitate this.  Of course, one could wear clothes over the under armor layer, if one wishes.

Form-fitting is one thing, the apparently massively effective butt cheek separation technology that puts extreme wedgies on every character is ridiculous. Nobody in their right mind would go into combat with material tucked deeply between their cheeks.

Properly form-fitting under-armor may be snug, but should not be painted on, should not leave any skin exposed, and allow for the male package.
 

But yes, when Miranda goes into combat, she should be wearing full armor.  This is especially the case when they are in situations where there is no breathable air.  Miranda, Jack, Liara, etc. should have full environmental armored suits.

Indeed.

All that said, I don't imagine they would make any such changes in a re-release... although I would be much more likely to buy it again if they did.

[Wayning_Star]

actually, in the future the clothes will be sprayed on... we're talking millions of years in the future...

[sjsharp2011]

It's questionable, although likely, that we'll get a remaster at all. If we do, I doubt they'll change much at all, certainly not something like this that the fanbase is more or less going to be 50/50 on.

I'd much rather they spent the time and $$$ restoring cut dialogue and fixing bugs tbh.

I think the majority would Calista myself included especially the black blocks problem in ME1. I think the game is fine as it is and should o0nly fix and straighten out areas where there are known bugs rather than try to overhaul everything

[KotorEffect3]

People need to understand this right now.  A remaster isn't going to fundamentally change anything about the games.  What we have is what we are getting.  All a remaster is going to do is touch up the graphics and textures and hopefully clean up some technical things (such as the imported faces for ME 3) but you aren't getting anything more than improved visuals.  Nor should they spend time and money making major changes to games that are now 3, 5, and 7 years old.

[Linkenski]

I'd like to get reskins for all 3 games so that Ashley can consistently have long or short hair and plastic-surgery lips or not. Her ME3 redesign and sex amp-up goes against her character that was made by Chris L'Etoile. Pretty shameful.

[Drone223]

As for the Breather Mask it produce its own Mass Effect field or something whatevs. 

Expect its never stated or implied that have such a feature. Not to mention kinetic/biotic barriers offer no protection against toxins, radiation and extreme temperatures where's a fully sealed suit does. You don't want to put too much faith in the kinetic/biotic barriers since they'll be times where they'll be a liability.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

 

- Armour not being "armoury" - we all understand that a game needs to have a unique feeling, but spandex, latex or leather, these things do not protect against bullets, fire, ice. 

 

 

You calling it Latex doesn't actually make it Latex you know that right? your idea of what's an armor is outdated, Detectives were concealable vests for low profile half the time you can't even tell that they're wearing it, are you going to say it can't protect them because it doesn't look "armory"?

[wolfhowwl]

People need to understand this right now.  A remaster isn't going to fundamentally change anything about the games.  What we have is what we are getting.  All a remaster is going to do is touch up the graphics and textures and hopefully clean up some technical things (such as the imported faces for ME 3) but you aren't getting anything more than improved visuals.  Nor should they spend time and money making major changes to games that are now 3, 5, and 7 years old.

 

Yeah. Chances are that a remaster might not even be done by BioWare itself too.

[Malanek]

You could argue that when the majority of someone's protection come from shields and barriers, then mobility is also important.

 

Then you have artistic appeal and variety versus realism. I am perfectly happy for them to take some liberties if it makes the game look better.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

Expect its never stated or implied that have such a feature. Not to mention kinetic/biotic barriers offer no protection against toxins, radiation and extreme temperatures where's a fully sealed suit does. You don't want to put too much faith in the kinetic/biotic barriers since they'll be times where they'll be a liability.

Eh, Body Armor codex describes it as "A sealed Suit of nonporous ballistic cloth  provides kinetic and Environmental Protection, reinforced by a lightweight composite ceramic plates in areas that either don't need to flex or require additional coverage" 

Then Look at the Hahne-Kedar Legs, the Knees and Shins are covered but the rest is just a cloth-like material which is noticeable on most of his other armor pieces as well.

[Vazgen]

Eh, Body Armor codex describes it as "A sealed Suit of nonporous ballistic cloth  provides kinetic and Environmental Protection, reinforced by a lightweight composite ceramic plates in areas that either don't need to flex or require additional coverage" 

Then Look at the Hahne-Kedar Legs, the Knees and Shins are covered but the rest is just a cloth-like material which is noticeable on most of his other armor pieces as well.

Well, that sentence itself implies that the cloth-like material does not provide adequate protection and needs to be reinforced to protect vital organs. And another thing is that combat hardsuits in ME universe have built-in computer that provides target assistance, disperses medi-gel, provides communications. Combat hardsuits are also sealable against extremes of temperature and atmosphere. 

None of this works with Jack's leather belt. Don't get me wrong, I like her outfit (ME3 version more) but it seems to be as more suitable for off-duty than for combat situations on different planets. 

[Sirzechs_Krios]

Well, that sentence itself implies that the cloth-like material does not provide adequate protection and needs to be reinforced to protect vital organs. And another thing is that combat hardsuits in ME universe have built-in computer that provides target assistance, disperses medi-gel, provides communications. Combat hardsuits are also sealable against extremes of temperature and atmosphere. 

None of this works with Jack's leather belt. Don't get me wrong, I like her outfit (ME3 version more) but it seems to be as more suitable for off-duty than for combat situations on different planets. 

 

Well Jack suit is actually a Prisoner's suit tied around her waist in ME2

[ShadyKat]

Why are people such prudes these days? Let's get rid of all sexuality and romance while we are at it.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

Also I think most people are failing to understand the context and situation of the story, while every character is indeed playable on missions for game purposes, certain characters wouldn't be in those situations storywise, for instance Shepard certainly wouldn't take Mordin and Kasumi into battles more suited for combat ready characters like Garrus, Jacob and Grunt.

[Vazgen]

I'm fine with sexuality as long as it makes sense in the universe. Seeing Miranda in a breather mask on the heretic station is neither sexual nor romantic, it's, well, dumb IMO.

[Vazgen]

Also I think most people are failing to understand the context and situation of the story, while every character is indeed playable on missions for game purposes, certain characters wouldn't be in those situations storywise, for instance Shepard certainly wouldn't take Mordin and Kasumi into battles more suited for combat ready characters like Garrus, Jacob and Grunt.

I would also not take anyone who actually has a job on the ship. Meaning I'm left with Zaeed, Thane, Jack, Samara, Grunt, Legion (if activated) in ME2 and James, Javik, Kaidan/Ashley in ME3. 

It doesn't really matter though. The game gives you an option to take them, so it has to be accounted for

[Drone223]

Eh, Body Armor codex describes it as "A sealed Suit of nonporous ballistic cloth  provides kinetic and Environmental Protection, reinforced by a lightweight composite ceramic plates in areas that either don't need to flex or require additional coverage" 

Then Look at the Hahne-Kedar Legs, the Knees and Shins are covered but the rest is just a cloth-like material which is noticeable on most of his other armor pieces as well.

That 'cloth-like' is actually undersuit component of the armor which serves a the environmental seal for it. The actual armor pecies is what provides protection from gun fire, small explosions and the other benefits that Vazgen mentioned.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

I would also not take anyone who actually has a job on the ship. Meaning I'm left with Zaeed, Thane, Jack, Samara, Grunt, Legion (if activated) in ME2 and James, Javik, Kaidan/Ashley in ME3. 

It doesn't really matter though. The game gives you an option to take them, so it has to be accounted for

Missing the point.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

Even ME2 ending proves that certain characters are better suited for different situations,

 

Are you going to send a non tech specialist into the vent because you can?

Are you going to make any Biotic hold up the biotic bubble because you can?

How about letting Tali or kasumi lead the fire team?

[goishen]

It's likely all they'll be doing is tweaking the coding so it's compatible for Ps4/XB1 and fixing any graphical glitches such as what happens to the newer 8 core AMD processors that end up turning characters and objects into black blocks nothing more than that. Would be nice if they did more but I'm not counting on it.

By black blocks I mean things like this bug just to let people know

http://gyazo.com/19a...5ee7fbe4df0cbf2

 

Yah, also happens on Ilos to a much bigger extent.  :-/

[rapscallioness]

Before we do all this BS, Bioware need to actually learn how to design some proper club outfits first. You go into Purgatory and people are wearing those ugly ass colonial outfits and floor length dresses 

 

lol!

 

*they're canadian, man. their jeans be tight.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I don't get why people make such a big deal out of this. Bioware has always been about diversity in their games. Like it or not, in real life some people are comfortable with their bodies enough that they want to show it off. So given they try to represent the real world diversity as much as possible when it comes to characteristics, race, genders, sexual orientation, etc. Why is there an outcry when it comes to personal wardrobe? Just because you wouldn't dress like that, doesn't mean that others won't or that it demeans them in any way. Samara, Jack, Miranda, and Ashley may have wore cleavage/tight fitting clothes but that isn't what they are defined by, its their character and its something that the writers have done a good job conveying. You are essentially judging a book by its cover. You wouldn't (I hope) do it in real life, so why here?

[SNascimento]

That would be a ridiculous waste of resource. 

[Finlandiaprkl]

This BS again?

 

/Thread.

 

This has already been discussed. Can we just drop it?