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[Bleachrude]

Not having love is one thing. Having a total lack of sexual attraction extending very possibly into outright revulsion is another.

 

again, this assumes that heterosexual people can not feel revulsion to a person...and it still doesn't excuse his selfishness since his not having a heir means the end of the House. Really, I don't see how people can defend this since the game males clear that other than having a child, there's no reason why Dorian has to actually sleep with the woman more than once.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Yes, but how is this any different from any heterosexual marriage among nobles?.He's part of the nobility and a marriage based on love is a rarity...sure, love and respect can be expected to grow but World of Thedas makes quite clear that marraige at the nobility level is first and foremost about alliances.and strengthening your house.

We have no information that heterosexual, romantic, paramour relationships don't exist in Tevinter the way they do in most of Thedas.

 

False comparison.

[Ieldra]

This is more about Dorian than Calpernia, but I agree that Dorian's character quest does not explain why "Just get the girl with child and find your pleasure elsewhere" wasn't an option for him, given how these things usually work in the ruling classes of Thedas. I suspect it is yet another case of "drama insufficiently grounded in the lore" or "the writer wrote from the view of his own culture". Like so often in Bioware's latest games, the story works on a thematic and an emotional level but collapses if you start to actually think about things. Fortunately that's comparably rare in DAI, but it's still annoying.

[KaiserShep]

This is my main problem as well...I'm still unsure as to what exactly the big deal with Dorian's quest is supposed to be....again, the game itself notes that there's nothing wrong with being a sidepiece (ee Vivienne and Leliana) so what exactly was Dorian's excuse?

 

Perhaps being a sidepiece is actually bullshit for some people, though. Sure, for an icy super-pragmatist like Vivienne, who's willing to forgive any "defects" for power and station, and revels in the Orlesians' ridiculous Game and will play pretend until she dies, perhaps that sort of thing might be grand (putting aside for a moment that she has no other option, being a mage in Orlais), but Dorian doesn't strike me as the type to give a snoufleur's bubble butt about that.

 

 

again, this assumes that heterosexual people can not feel revulsion to a person...and it still doesn't excuse his selfishness since his not having a heir means the end of the House. Really, I don't see how people can defend this since the game males clear that other than having a child, there's no reason why Dorian has to actually sleep with the woman more than once.

 

From what I've gathered in his banter, this also comes with the prospect of living out a life of marriage with someone he doesn't want, presumably until one or both of them kick the bucket. I guess he didn't have someone like the Warden to pull his arm into hitching up in that arrangement like what happened to Alistair. I can only assume that his basic response was "F*ck 'em", which I can dig.

 

Anyway, back to Calpernia. This lady's pretty much the single reason why I'm truly torn over the Templar path. People talked up Barris, but I don't really care about that guy. This character's more interesting than Samson overall.

[Ieldra]

Anyway, back to Calpernia. This lady's pretty much the single reason why I'm truly torn over the Templar path. People talked up Barris, but I don't really care about that guy. This character's more interesting than Samson overall.

Yeah, me too. I'd probably never play the templar path except for "I want to see this once", were it not for Calpernia. Even so, I'll give it only one second run since I couldn't connect with my dwarf Inquisitor. 

 

it probably says something about me that the templars leave me completely cold, even where my being hostile to the order's ideological orientation doesn't come into play. Meanwhile, my appreciation of mage-like characters had been a constant for 35 years.

[Rundy Bundles]

Anyway, back to Calpernia. This lady's pretty much the single reason why I'm truly torn over the Templar path. People talked up Barris, but I don't really care about that guy. This character's more interesting than Samson overall.

Yeah, she's an interesting character. Makes for a good anti-villain. I mean, she's no innocent, that's for sure. Though it makes me wonder: despite her being free, at least, physically from slavery, would she be a slave to her own anger and/or vengeance? Metaphorically, she's still in chains, bound by her anger, impatience to build a new Tevinter, and revenge. Things that keep her from becoming a more 'whole' person. But, perhaps that's an odd way of looking at things - I often like to paint characters I like as tragic (or more so, if already.) 
 
Speaking of slavery and chains, here's a more positive image of her with her chains broken.

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[Mystical Mirage]

I'm a ProMage person think and thin personally.  In order for my to even play Champions of the Just I have to think to myself "This doesn't mean I'm Pro Mage, It just means that I don't think that the Mages are any danger since Fiona seems normal, meanwhile the Lord Seeker lost his marbles let's see what's happening".

 

I do care a little about Templars, but only when they're supposed to do what they need to do.  Protect the people and all.

 

All for Calpernia.  The Envy demon creeps me out too much.  And my own head. 

[Boost32]

The only one bringing hope to Tevinter is this fine looking lady over here. 
 

I must admit, for someone who wasnt born as a woman, she is quite attractive.

[Rundy Bundles]

On another note, I wonder what would be Calpernia's greatest fear? In Here Lies the Abyss, you learn about your companion's fears, so it's only a guess what hers is.

[Master Warder Z_]

Should have of used a funny gif. Their far more effective at expressing dislike towards a fictional character.

I wasn't bothering with being funny, just expressing my opinion.

[The Baconer]

Sure defend revulsion at the sight of a person that let a child die within line of sight and call it some inane phobia.
 

Your label is incorrect and your assumption childish.

 

This is strange, as you're a fan of multiple characters who have done much worse.

[Ranadiel Marius]

On another note, I wonder what would be Calpernia's greatest fear? In Here Lies the Abyss, you learn about your companion's fears, so it's only a guess what hers is.

Easy answer would enslavement. More complex answer would be wasting her potential. So I'm going with spiders....because arachnophobia is hilarious?

[Ieldra]

On another note, I wonder what would be Calpernia's greatest fear? In Here Lies the Abyss, you learn about your companion's fears, so it's only a guess what hers is.

That's a hard question, since we know so little about her. However, I think what Corypheus planned for her would rank pretty high on the list - completely losing the ability to act while being completely clear in her head. I'd imagine in a land where blood magic is widely used it isn't exactly something that would never occur to you. 

[raging_monkey]

This is strange, as you're a fan of multiple characters who have done much worse.

they arent mages

[Master Warder Z_]

This is strange, as you're a fan of multiple characters who have done much worse.

This is true.

[Ieldra]

Does anyone have a screenshot of Calpernia's first appearance? I'm always surprised how short that scene is, and I haven't managed to take a good shot yesterday when I played In Your Heart Shall Burn with my Dalish Rogue.

[Arlee]

Does anyone have a screenshot of Calpernia's first appearance? I'm always surprised how short that scene is, and I haven't managed to take a good shot yesterday when I played In Your Heart Shall Burn with my Dalish Rogue.

 

I don't think she's particularly short, it's just she is standing next to Corypants and he's ridiculously tall.

[JadeDragon]

To me she makes a much better right hand man to cory then samson. i feel cory just sees samson as the fool resistant enough to red lyrium to carry out his plan. While calpernia being a fellow mage and teiventer who wants glory for her country she at least has a common goal with her master so the respect between the two seem higher. If anything since at one point both samson and calpernia worked for cory at the same time I am sure within cory's circle calpernia was above samson at least in favor even though they were both equally his generals. if she returns i would like the entire story on how there relationship came to be and how she feels knowing the truth. Is she andrastian or does she believe in old gods or no god thanks to cory.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Does anyone have a screenshot of Calpernia's first appearance? I'm always surprised how short that scene is, and I haven't managed to take a good shot yesterday when I played In Your Heart Shall Burn with my Dalish Rogue.

 

Ask and you shall receive. 

[Ieldra]

LOL. I said a screenshot, not a thumbnail. I could've gotten that off the wiki.

[SmilesJA]

LOL. I said a screenshot, not a thumbnail. I could've gotten that off the wiki.

 

Hey he did his best! No need for that! 

[Ieldra]

Uh...sorry if that came across wrong. I meant it as a joke.

 

Meanwhile, I was sent a bigger version:

 

[TheLastArchivist]

Calpernia has the many qualities of leadership. She's a diplomat, a commander of troops, a principled warrior and a strategist.

In personality, she's level-headed, rational, open to dialog and disciplined. 

 

Considering all the strong women in the franchise, I admire her more than Anora and Cassandra. The first is too ambitious and manipulative to the core, capable of turning even aginst family to reach her goals. She admires nothing but power and prestige. The second is, although brave and quick in her decision making, too much of an idealist. She has a unilateral view of human nature, departing from the assumption that even the smallest lie necessarily implies having a bad character. 

 

My Inquisitor never kills her and admires her foe, and hopes the Inquisition can help her rebel group break the shackles of slavery someday.

[Ieldra]

Calpernia has the many qualities of leadership. She's a diplomat, a commander of troops, a principled warrior and a strategist.

In personality, she's level-headed, rational, open to dialog and disciplined. 

 

Considering all the strong women in the franchise, I admire her more than Anora and Cassandra. The first is too ambitious and manipulative to the core, capable of turning even aginst family to reach her goals. She admires nothing but power and prestige. The second is, although brave and quick in her decision making, too much of an idealist. She has a unilateral view of human nature, departing from the assumption that even the smallest lie necessarily implies having a bad character. 

 

My Inquisitor never kills her and admires her foe, and hopes the Inquisition can help her rebel group break the shackles of slavery someday.

I do not subscribe to such a binary conception of human nature. Things are more complex than just "good" or "bad", as someone who appreciates Calpernia should be able to see rather clearly. 

[Elfyoth]

Calpernia for DA4 companion!....since I don't believe we have confirmation of her death in any version of events. Closest thing is jumping into a chasm.

Pepole will be mad and say "Hey another choice that didint matter" sadly I dont see this happening :/