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The last disciple of Andraste was charged with the duty to protect the prophet's ashes until Tevinter crumbled into the sea.
I say that would be a vast improvement to Thedas
What's with the o...o?
I was saying there are Codex entries from people in Tevinter that confirm every negative thing we hear about it as being real things and not propaganda.
Propaganda sort of ceases to be relevant when the greatest charge against that society is true.
Agreed. It stops being propaganda and becomes simply fact.
Nobody denies that the Magisters practice blood sacifice. That, as I said, is the ruling elite. Little is known of the rest of Tevinter, and that fact I attribute at least in part to propaganda. Southern Andrasteanism is too invested in Tevinter as a bogeyman, of course they'd exaggerate things. I'd say it is a pretty safe bet that most of the people of Tevinter are not so different from people elsewhere, and that includes being, as a rule, horrified at the idea of human sacrifice - which is, btw., still illegal and must stay hidden.Agreed. It stops being propaganda and becomes simply fact.
Right. Dorian said the blood magic stays hidden for appearances sake. But it still goes on behind closed doors.
Well not even closed doors as they they pretty much openly use blood magic and human sacrifice during their parties
Calpernia's old flame, Marius, is gonna be one of the protagonists in an upcoming comic series. At the moment, we know that it will start shortly before the events of Inquisition, tracking the rise of the Venatori, before running parallel with the timeline of the game.
Will Calpernia's survival be revealed in a super dramatic climatic arc?
Probably.
Calpernia's old flame, Marius, is gonna be one of the protagonists in an upcoming comic series. At the moment, we know that it will start shortly before the events of Inquisition, tracking the rise of the Venatori, before running parallel with the timeline of the game.
Will Calpernia's survival be revealed in a super dramatic climatic arc?
Probably.
Her old flame is Boba Fett
The first thing that popped into my mind when I read about the comic was this scenario: Marius is contracted to kill Calpernia without being aware it's her. Sort of stereotypical, but it would make for an interesting encounter.Calpernia's old flame, Marius, is gonna be one of the protagonists in an upcoming comic series. At the moment, we know that it will start shortly before the events of Inquisition, tracking the rise of the Venatori, before running parallel with the timeline of the game.
Will Calpernia's survival be revealed in a super dramatic climatic arc?
Probably.
Why? All I can see is that he didn't go through the fire yet, hasn't experienced the kind of adverse circumstances Calpernia went through, but that's not his fault.
To start off with, I do not think much of Dorian's decision to flee Tevinter when he had the status in its society to rise to power and work to bring some changes. If he did not care about his homeland and just wanted a happier life for himself, running away would be okay, but since he claims to want things to change there for the better, I think he threw away an opportunity.
But never mind that.
Where Dorian really lost some points with me is how he reacts to the Inquisitor if he/she made Alexius tranquil. I never did that, myself, but I saw it on YouTube and it kind of disappointed me about him. He greatly disapproves, but does not offer much to contest your decision other than "I wish you hadn't," and that just made him come across to me as really, really weak -- a great injustice is committed against a man whom he had great respect for and his reaction was as potent as a passing sigh. Is this the guy whom we believe will bring positive change to a nation that is corrupt to high heaven? Even Alistair had more spine than that.
I like Dorian well enough. At this time, though, I do not see him going on to do great things. That will require a fire that I did not see in him at any point in Inquisition.
To start off with, I do not think much of Dorian's decision to flee Tevinter when he had the status in its society to rise to power and work to bring some changes. If he did not care about his homeland and just wanted a happier life for himself, running away would be okay, but since he claims to want things to change there for the better, I think he threw away an opportunity.
But never mind that.
Where Dorian really lost some points with me is how he reacts to the Inquisitor if he/she made Alexius tranquil. I never did that, myself, but I saw it on YouTube and it kind of disappointed me about him. He greatly disapproves of the decision, but he is remarkably passive about it when you talk to him, and that just made him come across to me as really, really weak -- a great injustice is committed against a man whom he had great respect for and he just casually sidesteps it in conversation about it. Is this the guy whom we believe will bring positive change to a nation that is corrupt to high heaven? Even Alistair had more spine than that.
I like Dorian well enough. At this time, though, I do not see him going on to do great things. That will require a fire that I did not see in him at any point in Inquisition.
Dorian explains that the political method of implementing change through raising up in the ranks in Tevinter high society has always failed in the past on account of the progressives always suddenly becoming friendless and then ironically enough getting accused of being a maleficar. I'd guess that Dorian figured that fighting a cult of insane cultists was far more easily then changing the hearts and minds of the Magisterium. Sadly he'd be right. That said, I think your right. Dorian is way to much of a good guy to seriously be able to do all the bloody work that's required in changing Tevinter. He's no hardened Leliana or Solas, that's for sure. Worse yet, he really never mentions a step-by-step plan on how he's going redeem his country. It's basically;
1. Stop Elder One
2. Return home
3. ???
4. Tevinter Redeemed.
Anyhow, if Dorian really wanted change the way things are in his country I'd think he'd be would asking the Inquisitor if he could borrow their army.
Anyhow, if Dorian really wanted change the way things are in his country I'd think he'd be would asking the Inquisitor if he could borrow their army.
That probably wouldn't end well for anyone.
That probably wouldn't end well for anyone.
How so? Dorian gets army. Dorian gives army fancy new uniforms. Tevinter surrenders due to the dapper awesomeness of Dorian's fashionable army.
What could possibly go wrong?
The only way I can think of Tevinter changing is if the Qunari manage to breach their defenses and their forced to seek help from other Thedosian Nations
It does seem that the Qunari aren't really taking the "war" with Tevinter too seriously ... meanwhile the people responsible for maintaining the 3 giant golems are using that money to fund their parties
To start off with, I do not think much of Dorian's decision to flee Tevinter when he had the status in its society to rise to power and work to bring some changes. If he did not care about his homeland and just wanted a happier life for himself, running away would be okay, but since he claims to want things to change there for the better, I think he threw away an opportunity.
But never mind that.
Where Dorian really lost some points with me is how he reacts to the Inquisitor if he/she made Alexius tranquil. I never did that, myself, but I saw it on YouTube and it kind of disappointed me about him. He greatly disapproves, but does not offer much to contest your decision other than "I wish you hadn't," and that just made him come across to me as really, really weak -- a great injustice is committed against a man whom he had great respect for and his reaction was as potent as a passing sigh. Is this the guy whom we believe will bring positive change to a nation that is corrupt to high heaven? Even Alistair had more spine than that.
I like Dorian well enough. At this time, though, I do not see him going on to do great things. That will require a fire that I did not see in him at any point in Inquisition.
In all fairness, Dorian may have seen the logic in making Alexius tranquil, it just made him sad to see it. First off, Alexius deserved far worse. Second, Alexius was an emotional wreck and was deeply hurt by the loss of Felix. So tranquility would take that pain away at least. So I think Dorian is conflicted on that one.
As for Dorian's actions in Inquisition, I think people are being a bit unfair to him. He didn't run away from Tevinter, he traveled south to help close the breach. He wanted to show that someone from Tevinter cared about the rest of the world enough to try and help it.
After the Temple of Mythal, he admits that he mostly just complains about what's wrong with Tevinter, but doesn't do anything to change it. So he commits to doing that, and he says the Inquisitor was his inspiration for his new resolve.
How so? Dorian gets army. Dorian gives army fancy new uniforms. Tevinter surrenders due to the dapper awesomeness of Dorian's fashionable army.
What could possibly go wrong?
I am pretty sure Inquisition does not have the army to defeat Tevinter. Dorian´s journey to the gallows would just take few days more.
Anyhow, if Dorian really wanted change the way things are in his country I'd think he'd be would asking the Inquisitor if he could borrow their army.
You won't change Tevinter with an invading army. Any revolution will inevitably be violent, but the impulse must come from within, else everyone in the Imperium will rally against the invaders, and that will only strengthen the ruling system. That's assuming the Inquisition's army is strong enough to pose a serious threat to Tevinter in the first place, which I very much doubt.
You won't change Tevinter with an invading army. Any revolution will inevitably be violent, but the impulse must come from within, else everyone in the Imperium will rally against the invaders, and that will only strengthen the ruling system. That's assuming the Inquisition's army is strong enough to pose a serious threat to Tevinter in the first place, which I very much doubt.
An excellent piece of rhetoric to get revolutionaries and reformers to pipe down is, "Do you hate our country? Why are you trying to divide our people when there are barbarians at the gates?" Or, if it doesn't get them to stop pushing, a lot of their target audience will be focused on not being pillaged by passing armies or conscripted, rather than governmental reform.
And the Inquisition 'might' be able to invade a small kingdom, like Navarra. Not Nevarra, though. Definitely not the Imperium.
Nevarra is not a small kingdom and I doubt Tevinter have a stronger army than Nevarra. Even Orlais, the most powerful kingdom doesn't want to go to was against Nevarra to get back their list territory.An excellent piece of rhetoric to get revolutionaries and reformers to pipe down is, "Do you hate our country? Why are you trying to divide our people when there are barbarians at the gates?" Or, if it doesn't get them to stop pushing, a lot of their target audience will be focused on not being pillaged by passing armies or conscripted, rather than governmental reform.
And the Inquisition 'might' be able to invade a small kingdom, like Navarra. Not Nevarra, though.
Nevarra is not a small kingdom and I doubt Tevinter have a stronger army than Nevarra. Even Orlais, the most powerful kingdom doesn't want to go to was against Nevarra to get back their list territory.
Sorry, I was making a joke. 
Nevarra is indeed not a small kingdom. But Navarra was.
https://en.wikipedia...gdom_of_Navarre
Nevarra is not a small kingdom and I doubt Tevinter have a stronger army than Nevarra. Even Orlais, the most powerful kingdom doesn't want to go to was against Nevarra to get back their list territory.
*snorts* Celene didn't.
That's hardly indicative they couldn't.
Orlais and Nevarra seem like two evenly matched Great Powers. Rather than occupying each other, they fight over the strategic bits in between them. And it seems like Celene's plan to incorporate Ferelden into the Empire through a marriage with Cailan was partially meant to provide more manpower against the Nevarrans. If I'm remembering the timeline correctly, Perendale and the mines have exchanged hands several times. I think the Nevarrans won the last round. 
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