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Regarding Corypheus ability, the Architect and the "others".


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This is about Corypheus ability to transfer his life-force into any tainted being, and the implications
that has for the Architect and the other blighted magisters.
 
We could simply think that yes, this is an ablity they all have, simple as that.
 
However since it was stated that this ability was tied to his dragon, i wonder if any of the others
might even have this power.
 
The connection to his "red lyrium dragon" was stated to be because he had transferred a part of his being into it.
 
If this is indeed needed for this ability to work, then that indicates that this dragon was
around before he was imprisoned by the wardens,considering that he was able to transfer himself into
Larius/janeka in DA2 legacy.
 
I am somewhat saddened if this is the case, cause i was hoping to see the Architect again,regardless of our choice
to kill him.
I was hoping as a consequense of our choice he would either be our ally or our opponent,atleast for a time.
 
it could be that all the blighted magisters made their own blighted dragons,but then more of them should be around
now.
 
The "talking darkspawn" codex said that three talking darkspawn argued,one ate the other,and the third ran away.
So that's atleast one blighted magister that never got a chance to do this to a dragon.
 
Cory creating his dragon AFTER he was imprisoned could still work, since we saw him look at Larius/janeka and
smirk, followed by that warden shaking just before cory died.
This could mean that he can transfer himself before he dies if he wills it.
 
In any case, i hope the Architect has this ability and will show up as either an enemy or ally depending on
our choice(even if he can only be our ally temporarily)!
 


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How could he transfer some of his being into that dragon? I was under the impression that it wasn't an archdemon, and therefore can't be a tainted dragon?



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I wouldn't mind seeing the Architect again.

 

But you do raise a point that I had not considered. Where did Cory's dragon come from? Was it blighted--more blighted red lyrium frankenstein like version of the arch demons.

 

Idk, somehow I had always thought that Cory's dragon was some kinda magical construct that Cory created...actually I didn't really think about it.

 

Was it any dragon like in the wilds and Cory just severely corrupted it? Or was it like the dragon's sleeping in the deep roads--not  the ones above ground nesting.



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What if Cory's dragon wasn't a dragon? Morrigan is not a dragon... perhaps Cory was just controlling, via red lyrium, an advanced shapeshifter.

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Who can say, it was confirmed that the architect was the same type of character as Corypheus but his fate is rather up in the air and the rest of the magisters at least the ones who haven't eaten each other are apparently lurking in the deep roads but I do wonder where he found the dragon and how he corrupted it in the first place.



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This could be answered in several possible ways. Due keep in mind that Cory has shown the ability to regenerate himself into any rained creature before he even had a dragon pet
- Cory being the high priest of the strongest Old God, he likely got the worst of the taint. He also was the reason behind the attempt to enter the Golden City
- The Architect is also alive but after being killed by The Warden decided not to regenerate on him rather somewhere else. It would be in character because he had several chances to kill the Warden but never did
- plot hole that later they will try and answer

Yes, it's possible Cory did create a dragon prior to that but there is no hinting that. I really doubt it

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How could he transfer some of his being into that dragon? I was under the impression that it wasn't an archdemon, and therefore can't be a tainted dragon?

An Archdemon isn't just a corrupted dragon but something else entirely.


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I don't think they said that the dragon was the reason he could be immortal. That was just because he has the ability that archdemons have. To me it looked like he had transferred part of himself into the dragon for extra power, but in doing so he created that window of opportunity for the inquisitor to kill him by killing the dragon (who was not immortal).


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As others have pointed out, I don't believe his regenerative abilities are tied to the dragon. It seems logical to assume The Architect would possess the same ability, perhaps he's even linked to the trouble at Weisshaupt mentioned in the epilogue.



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What if Cory's dragon wasn't a dragon? Morrigan is not a dragon... perhaps Cory was just controlling, via red lyrium, an advanced shapeshifter.

 

 

That's an interesting thought.



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In Emprise Du Leon Imshael and red templars were experimenting with using redd lyrium on animals. And were red templars trying to catch high drangons in the Hissing Wastes?

 

It may be possible that the Red Lyrium Dragon could very well have been with Corypheus for over 1000yrs. Kinda like when the inquisitor did that mind merge with the Ancient dragon?



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I don't think they said that the dragon was the reason he could be immortal. That was just because he has the ability that archdemons have. To me it looked like he had transferred part of himself into the dragon for extra power, but in doing so he created that window of opportunity for the inquisitor to kill him by killing the dragon (who was not immortal).

 

They kinda did. Morrigan said that because he had invested part of his being into the dragon he could not be killed as long as it was alive.



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How could he transfer some of his being into that dragon? I was under the impression that it wasn't an archdemon, and therefore can't be a tainted dragon?

 

He invested a part of his being into it, probably a piece of his soul(remember that red glowing energy that
went into Cory once the dragon was dead), i think it was tainted along with this.
 
An archdemon is a high dragon with the soul of an old god that becomes tainted, not a regular high dragon. Lol regular, as if they're common. :P


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What if Cory's dragon wasn't a dragon? Morrigan is not a dragon... perhaps Cory was just controlling, via red lyrium, an advanced shapeshifter.

 

That would be disturbing...and interesting!

Morrigan did say that it was a dragon that he had corrupted though.



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Who can say, it was confirmed that the architect was the same type of character as Corypheus but his fate is rather up in the air and the rest of the magisters at least the ones who haven't eaten each other are apparently lurking in the deep roads but I do wonder where he found the dragon and how he corrupted it in the first place.

 

Maybe the Architect killed the other magisters, and was unable to kill Cory because the Wardens got to him first and captured him!



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In Emprise Du Leon Imshael and red templars were experimenting with using redd lyrium on animals. And were red templars trying to catch high drangons in the Hissing Wastes?

 

It may be possible that the Red Lyrium Dragon could very well have been with Corypheus for over 1000yrs. Kinda like when the inquisitor did that mind merge with the Ancient dragon?

 

It could be that his dragon has been sleeping all these years, since Cory was immortal as long as it lives it would be understandable that he hid it once the wardens came for him.

 

Though i do find it somewhat unlikely that it has just been waiting for a 1000years.



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It might be Bioware got lost somewhere between explaining Elven lore and Tevinter lore, mixed the Elven Pantheon with the Old Gods and now they don't know how to fix the mess.

Take Mythal, for instance. First, she was a dragon. Then, people speculated she was an OGB. Now, she is neither, but an elven godess. But wait - don't elven gods have NOTHING to do with dragons? It's like the rules change after each game!  :blink:

 

Body jumping, shapeshifting, everything goes. So long as you keep people confused as to who the real gods are, all can be validated by the clause: but they have the power of the gods! (Player: wtf are those gods? Elves?Mages? Elven mages? Dragons? dafuk)

 

 

Who else believes DA4 will only keep pushing this explanation further and further until they can't ignore it anymore and then come up with a weak excuse to force it all to make sense?  :wizard:



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The Maker returns as has been prophesized back in origins and sends the gods to their rooms.



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Maybe the Architect killed the other magisters, and was unable to kill Cory because the Wardens got to him first and captured him!

 

Or maybe other way around cause the Architect don't realise he's magister unlike Cory, hmm..



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Or maybe other way around cause the Architect don't realise he's magister unlike Cory, hmm..

 

I don't think so since Cory said he wonders what happened to the other magisters that entered the
fade with him.
 
The Arcitect could have been lying about not knowing what he is,or he could simply have forgotten.
I mean he spent a 1000 years wandering around as a darkspawn, and his life before then might have been
what, 40-50 years? It's understandable that he'd forget.

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How can one magister remember his past and the other simply forget?

 

This doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

Plus, the Architect's an emissary...(read DA: The Calling, by David Gaider).



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How can one magister remember his past and the other simply forget?

 

This doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

Plus, the Architect's an emissary...(read DA: The Calling, by David Gaider).

 

Cory has been sleeping for almost a 1000 years, he only remembers what happened before.

While the Architect wandered around fully aware for a 1000 years. You can imagine the effect this has on ones mental state.

 

No, he's a blighted magister.



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How can one magister remember his past and the other simply forget?

 

This doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

Plus, the Architect's an emissary...(read DA: The Calling, by David Gaider).

The same guy also said in an interview that they are the same type



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The same guy also said in an interview that they are the same type

 

Yeah, just for all those people who where strangely confused about this.
 
I mean all we have to do is look at Cory and the Architect to see that there is a connection.
They are both darkspawn-like creatures that appear to have their clothes and armors merged with
their bodies. Twisted together with their skin and flesh.


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Does anyone have a link to the David Gaider interview? I didn't realise it had been confirmed that the Architect was a magister.