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#76
Vilio1

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Did play it once, probably won't do it again. I found Calpernia to be a better antagonist than Samson, but I thought the mage questline was much better.

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It's interesting you say that becuse I found Calpernia to be by far the most underwhelming part of the quest. Not that it wasn't good - just that the praise on the forum was so overwhelming that I think I built it up too much. I liked Calpernia when I eventually met her. I just found her quest a bit underwhelming, particularly the temple of Dumat.

 

Interesting, my impression was the opposite. :) She sounded more interesting than she turned out to be in the very brief personal confrontation. I also almost immediately regretted my choice to let her go, given all the atrocities she helped commit for Corypheus LITERALLY right until the moment we meet her, without any hesitation. Torture, mutilation, warmongering, slaughter of countless innocents? No sweat, no regret. My lord and god lied to me? AN OUTRAGE, HOW DARE HE!

 

Next time, I'll likely just kill her.



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Yes though with Calpernia I found her motivations to be the interesting thing in that her drive in helping Corypheus isn't him but that she believes that by aiding him she can save and reform Tevinter. More interestingly to me is Corypheus has genuine respect for her, implying in his own journals that potential such as her's wouldn't have been wasted and ignored in the Tevinter of his day because of her background and that such wouldn't happen in his new Tevinter. He also regrets what he feels he has to do after she drinks from the well and becomes bond to mythal's will.



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I liked the Templar quest better actually. Both were fine though.



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This post reminds of of the thread where the OP asked if he should choose Celene or Gaspard and all the Gaspard supporters made their typical arguments as though they were fact and the OP essentially went "I don't really care about that" or "Why would I care or know about that?" Gaspard supporters getting owned made me LOL.

 

Link to that thread?



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I found the Templar side much more enjoyable 



#82
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Alexius managed to beat a hall full of Inquisition soldiers, plus two companions and Leliana, all by himself?

Time magic and panic says hi. ;)



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Interesting, my impression was the opposite. :) She sounded more interesting than she turned out to be in the very brief personal confrontation. I also almost immediately regretted my choice to let her go, given all the atrocities she helped commit for Corypheus LITERALLY right until the moment we meet her, without any hesitation. Torture, mutilation, warmongering, slaughter of countless innocents? No sweat, no regret. My lord and god lied to me? AN OUTRAGE, HOW DARE HE!

 

Next time, I'll likely just kill her.

You forget that he was his slave. What choice did she have?



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Interesting, my impression was the opposite. :) She sounded more interesting than she turned out to be in the very brief personal confrontation. I also almost immediately regretted my choice to let her go, given all the atrocities she helped commit for Corypheus LITERALLY right until the moment we meet her, without any hesitation. Torture, mutilation, warmongering, slaughter of countless innocents? No sweat, no regret. My lord and god lied to me? AN OUTRAGE, HOW DARE HE!

 

Next time, I'll likely just kill her.

 

I don't mean I liked her as a person - she did horrid things. I mean I liked the character. 



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I like them both. I prefer to take the Templars though cause... Calpernia.



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I liked both but I was very satisfied with the Templar one. The templar version of Dumat was way more interesting and gave some nice insight to Corypheus. 

 

Also wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey stuff vs Barris. Plus Fiona the special flower. Although to be fair they did their best to strip her off her book 'special snowflake may sue authors pet status' as quick and as brutally as they could. Honestly we should have had the option to have her stand in the corner of Skyhold with a dunces cap on.


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Never tried it at all and never will. I did watch my sister play it through and lost even the last shreds of interest I might have had towards it. No, I side with the mages, every time.



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Personally, I find the whole "time magic" thing a little hokey. I don't overly care for time travel as a plot device, and it feels especially out of place in this setting.

The templar storyline is more engaging because Envy is targeting you personally. It has a much stronger horror feel and I quite like the interactions with Cole over Dorian.

Also, the templar route involves saving innocent people from being turned into monsters. The Redcliffe mages are, in essence, willing slaves to the Venatori. I have little patience for saving people set on subjugating themselves to Tevinter cultists.
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To those dissatisfied with the Mage mission: would it have been batter if half of it was you, Fiona, and the Rebe Mages fighting the Venatori inside Redcliff Castle and the other half was being sent into the future?

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To those dissatisfied with the Mage mission: would it have been batter if half of it was you, Fiona, and the Rebe Mages fighting the Venatori inside Redcliff Castle and the other half was being sent into the future?


It would've been better if they had just skipped on the whole time travel thing. Made me cring to be honest.
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To those dissatisfied with the Mage mission: would it have been batter if half of it was you, Fiona, and the Rebe Mages fighting the Venatori inside Redcliff Castle and the other half was being sent into the future?

maybe, but then it would just been a retread of the Templar mission for the present section


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To those of you who had Barris die, what was Knight-Captain Fletcher like? I can't seem to find any online videos of him at the end of the quest.



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I am unsure I always conscripted the Templars if Barris dies as Barris both shows potential during champions of the just and was Cellan's contact inside the Templars while the other guy just comes across as some random and unknown Templar.



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Did anyone else find the "story" when siding with the templars to be less satisfying, or even less urgent, as opposed to the mages?

Siding with the mages you're sent forward into time to literally see what would happen if you fail at your task in stopping Cory. Where as the templars, it just shows your reputation as Inquisitor being destroyed, and you being corrupted, as a demon has taken your identity.

I understand that both of these negative situations would ultimately result in the same outcome, but the mages made it seem SO much more of a serious, urgent, situation. I felt more "pumped" to beat the game siding with the mages.

Or maybe that's just me.

Yeah the mage one is better in my opinion. But I did like how they introduced Cole in the Templar mission...a shame it's so random the other way around.  Plus it seems a bit weird to do the templar mission after visiting Red Cliff and seeing the problem. Do you lose Red Cliff if you side with the templars?



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Yeah the mage one is better in my opinion. But I did like how they introduced Cole in the Templar mission...a shame it's so random the other way around.  Plus it seems a bit weird to do the templar mission after visiting Red Cliff and seeing the problem. Do you lose Red Cliff if you side with the templars?

what do you mean?



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Yeah the mage one is better in my opinion. But I did like how they introduced Cole in the Templar mission...a shame it's so random the other way around.  Plus it seems a bit weird to do the templar mission after visiting Red Cliff and seeing the problem. Do you lose Red Cliff if you side with the templars?

 

No



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Plus it seems a bit weird to do the templar mission after visiting Red Cliff and seeing the problem.


Sure, but you don't need to visit Redcliffe.

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 Going forward in time and seeing the future was definitely awesome, and the replay value goes up given your ability to see companions in this future as well, though the dungeon-crawl aspect of it did take away some of the fun. Alexius is also more compelling than Envy, and keeps you from get "Mouse" vibes with Cole.

 

However, the only "feel-good" ending for me was recruiting the Templars with the Inquisition to rebuild (as a Circle mage, even more so).

 

To say nothing Sir Badass as an ally and Calpornia as an antagonist.



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Calpernia was pleasantly not as black and white as Samson. She was a slave who still saw worth in Tevinter and dreamed of making it better. She also had a mean streak on anyone who mistreated slaves. 

 

 

Samson was... kinda dumb. His reasoning for his actions was beyond facepalm. 'the chantry betrayed us so im gonna make the templars go out in a blaze of glory and also hated and despised by pretty much everyone! All i know is pain!"

 

 

at least calpernia has the cojones to stand up to Corypheus at the end. She saw herself as Tevinter's champion, not his.


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#100
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Yea, did one playthrough siding with the templars, not gonna do it anymore. Not only did it feel boring and kinda...rushed? (I've read that Templars mission was supposed to be different and more creepy originally), but also all around wrong because I was leaving clearly endangered mages to their fate. I felt very comfortable siding with the mages, that mission was much more interesting. 

And I don't know why some ppl dislike time travel, I think it's awesome. As for Barris and Calpernia - I don't know why some ppl are so fascinated with them, just some minor characters with minor stories. Personally, I prefer Alexius to Calpernia, and Samson shows how badly the templar can fall, while Barris is just your typical goody two-shoes character. All in all, I think choosing the templars just because of these metagaming preferences is lame, because as the Inquisitor you're supposed to make a choice right here and now based on what info you have, not some meta knowledge.


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