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[samb]

There are a lot of similarities don't you think?

[o Ventus]

... No?

[thesuperdarkone2]

DA needs another similar race to be like Warhammer. Like the Necrons. DA needs its own version of Necrons:

 

[Ashagar]

No Nercons just Necromancers in Navarra who bring to the table whole armies of undead for Navarra's wars... which admittedly if the exulted plans show anything is super effective against Orlaisians.

[Merlik]

They may share some similar themes, but Warhammer is way darker. 

[earl of the north]

No not really, there are similarities but the same similarities exist in most similiar fantasy settings.......elves, dwarfs, humans etc and really Warhammer 'borrows' so much from other works that its inevitable that you would get some similarities.

[samb]

The fade (DA) is basically the warp (WH40k)

Psykers get possessed by daemons (WH40k) while mages get possessed by demons (DA)

Both have a dead or absent god on a golden throne

a blight is a wwaaggghhh!

 

The list goes on and on.  I suppose BW could have lifted ideas from Games Workshop, but that's fine.  WH40k is awesome.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Just wait until we find a group of ancient elves that lived in the eluvians and later find them to still continue the slavery and terrible practices of Arlathan. Bam, DA dark elves.

[DrBlingzle]

I... No. I really don't see it. Out of curiosity what are the similarities you see OP?

[samb]

I... No. I really don't see it. Out of curiosity what are the similarities you see OP?

The biggest one is the fade and the warp.  Both are psychoreactive (ie a reflection of people's psyche) and both psykers and mages tap into to use their powers.  Both mages and psykers run the risk of being possessed by demons.

[Anvos]

There are some similarities as is always given in fantasy genere with traditional fantasy races but over all I don't see that much between either the medevil version of 40k.

[DrBlingzle]

The fade (DA) is basically the warp (WH40k)

Okay that's a fair point, I can certainly see the parallels. Not an exact copy, but the Fade is similar to the warp.

Psykers get possessed by daemons (WH40k) while mages get possessed by demons (DA)

While possession is a fairly major thing in DA it's less so in 40K. There the biggest risk for psychics is spontaneously blowing up. Also possesion is fairly common amongst fantasy setting so it's hardly remarkable that both these 2 universes have it.

Both have a dead or absent god on a golden throne

Well in DA the "god" is absent while, in 40k the Emperor's there and exists he just has the minor handicap of being a skeleton. Also unlike the Maker the Emperor actually still helps his subjects by using his psychic mind to allow humans to use warp travel.

a blight is a wwaaggghhh!

That one, no, I don't really see it at all. The only similarity is that they are a huge destructive horde and there are dozens of fantasy settings with something like that. It's like saying DA is basically Magic the Gathering because it has mages.

 

Overall I don't really see how they are "basically the same" I'll give you the fade/warp comparison but outside of that I don't really see it. Warhammer is Sci-Fi, has loads of races, their constantly at war and it is much darker than DA. These are both two giant universes and a few connections from just a few of their aspects is not enough to convince me that DA is basically Warhammer.

 

I apologise if I'm sounding really patronising or anything. I was just trying to give you my opinion on the matter, I'm not calling you an idiot or anything for your opinion.

[Atelon]

Ha! Dragon Age wishes it was half as good at using what it has in potential as Warhammer. They take the tropes from 40k and FB, yes, but don't bring them to their logical conclusion, chickening out at the first opportunity.

 

Everyone is equal, tolerant of others, being what basically amounts to an eldar (elf in this case) in charge of a group of religious zealots and fanatics, no option to do something at least remotely dark with your newfound power, you can actually cure irreversible condition of being tranquil, etc.

 

It's a "let's not offend anyone and their mom" mentality. And though I love DA, I wish it was a bit more bold in their use of presented opportunities to develop its world.

[earl of the north]

Are we talking about 40K (fantasy sci-fi) or Warhammer (Fantasy) since their are similarities to both, but as I wrote earlier Games Workshop 'borrowed' extensively in the creation of their settings and it would be hard to create a fantasy world that didn't have similarities.

[Ashagar]

Yes that is true both setting borrow heavily from other settings and put their own twist on it. The Necrons trying to kill all life was done in the long running Berserkers series started in the 1950s for instance, a concept also heavily borrowed by Bioware in the form of the reapers.

[Dominari]

I don't see it. And you notice my forum avatar? Yeah, I still don't see it.

Warp and Fade? To be fair, they do have a connection but then again psych-reactive planes are not all that unique. Heck, even the Matrix is all about another plane that can be modified on a thought. DnD planes are also reactive to the whim of the gods that own them, some more chaotically than other I grant you but extra-planer dream realms are not that uncommon.

[o Ventus]

 

Overall I don't really see how they are "basically the same" I'll give you the fade/warp comparison but outside of that I don't really see it. Warhammer is Sci-Fi, has loads of races, their constantly at war and it is much darker than DA. These are both two giant universes and a few connections from just a few of their aspects is not enough to convince me that DA is basically Warhammer.

 

I apologise if I'm sounding really patronising or anything. I was just trying to give you my opinion on the matter, I'm not calling you an idiot or anything for your opinion.

Warhammer 40k is sci-fi, as opposed to Warhammer (no suffix), which is a more traditional magic-and-elves fantasy series.

 

Granted, 40k effectively IS just Warhammer (fantasy), but if everyone had guns instead of swords, and 40k barely qualifies as 'science' fiction (can you really call yourself 'science fiction' when Star Wars has better science than you?).

[thesuperdarkone2]

I find it funny that Envy's Inquisition would pretty much fit right in Warhammer 40k. YOU ARE GUILTY OF HERESY! 

[JumboWheat01]

I never played any Warhammer games.  I should really remedy that one of these days.