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[Hair Serious Business]

...I would rather have personally someone as him as my military advisor rather then Cullen. Don't take me wrong no hate for Cullen but someone like Michel makes more sense and logic as having as military advisor...Cullen just fits more to be simple companion then someone sharing advices as even Varric said "Curly? Nah they keep him in there to just look pretty." which is true even Leliana jokes once on war table saying to Cullen "You don't have to do anything,you just need to stand and look pretty"...once again Cullen is far better of as simple companion then someone leading Inquisiton's soldiers and making tactics it is just so off. It would be same as if HoF made Zevran new Fereldan's military strategy commander,because Zevran is mabye good in assassinating people and intrigue but he would be off as someone who would lead Fereldan's forces because then he Zevran would be just someone who looks there pretty and nothing else. Thank God this doesn't happen lol but Cullen case does happen in DA:I! Cullen is military type but he is not military leading plan strategies for your troops and lead them type! Ser Michel is another story especially if you read 'Masked Empire' then you know what kind hell of a advisor someone as him would make that you wouldn't need any other advisor besides him! 

Just wondering am I only one who find Cullen more appropriate as party rather then on position in which where he is just there as everyone in game just says "too look pretty".Because Ser Michel is even in that area classified because Michel is dayum  not only that he would look pretty but also he does know the job of military command. Simply can't find good and logical enough reason why Cullen is not simple party while someone as Michel is not your true military advisor?

[Leo]

Michel was too busy being the bodyguard of Empress Celene, while Cullen was in Kirkwall where he could be recruited by Cassandra.

[katerinafm]

Uh, Michel betrayed the empress though? Why would the inquisitor trust him more than Cullen? Michel was in charge of a single person (and failed at his duty by CHOICE), while Cullen has commanded troops before. If you want Michel so bad, he'd make more sense as a companion since he is close to Blackwall's type of story.

[Vita Brevis]

Yeah... But he really shouldn't. He's fine where he is.

Ser Michel is another story especially if you read 'Masked Empire' then you know what kind hell of a advisor someone as him would make that you wouldn't need any other advisor besides him! 

"Me dear, your dementia is showing".

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Cullen is a better commander because he has actually commanded in the past. 

 

Plus Michel is a Chevalier so he is an immediate no for me. 

[Augustei]

Cullen is a better commander because he has actually commanded in the past. 

 

Plus Michel is a Chevalier so he is an immediate no for me. 

You mean the Templar chapter where insubordination was running rampant and when he took charge as commander his subordinates begun taking Red Lyrium and ousted the Viscount? Yeah great commanding there. Lets put him in charge of an army, because everyone knows the guys standing around in circle towers would be absolute genius's of tactics and strategy, and would do great in the field.

Cullen as Commander of the Inquisition's forces makes as much sense as A sober Oghren, or making Arl Howe a saint of all that is good and holy

[ThreeF]

I don't know anything about this Michael aside from the fact that he looks pretty and very knight-in-shiny-armour in the snow. I'm also not fond of  the idea of giving too much responsibility to one person, nobody is good at everything unless they are Mary Sue.

 

Cullen on the other hand, if you read the WT missions, has pretty good ideas on many occasions and on some they are  actually  more clever than those of Josephine and Leliana.

 

I'm not sure if you are serious about the "pretty" bit, though.

[Vita Brevis]

I don't know anything about this Michael aside from the fact that he looks pretty and very knight-in-shiny-armour in the snow. 

Ah, you should. That way you might not want to recruit him even as a soldier or an agent, let alone wanting him to be the leader of the Inq forces.

[Hair Serious Business]

Uh, Michel betrayed the empress though? Why would the inquisitor trust him more than Cullen? Michel was in charge of a single person (and failed at his duty by CHOICE), while Cullen has commanded troops before. If you want Michel so bad, he'd make more sense as a companion since he is close to Blackwall's type of story.

I never said anything about "Michel is more trustworthy" I just said who is one who would know his job in this case!

Everyone in game says that Cullen is just to look pretty even Cullen himself admits that battle is more his thing then leading.I just think Cullen is more fit for one of my companions then someone who is over war table giving you advicies,planning tactics and strategy commands for troops.

[ThreeF]

Ah, you should. That way you might not want to recruit him even as a soldier or an agent, let alone wanting him to be the leader of the Inq forces.

Oh? Do tell. I know Celene wants him, but I leave him to Leliana, should she have him back?

 

 

 

Everyone in game says that Cullen is just to look pretty

 

I'm getting the impression that you just don't get the joke here?

[AresKeith]

I never said anything about "Michel is more trustworthy" I just said who is one who would know his job in this case!

Everyone in game says that Cullen is just to look pretty even Cullen himself admits that battle is more his thing then leading.I just think Cullen is more fit for one of my companions then someone who is over war table giving you advicies,planning tactics and strategy commands for troops.

 

This is what happens when people take jokes serious 

[Hair Serious Business]

I'm getting the impression that you just don't get the joke here?

I do get joke dear. I know that Cullen is not just incompetent pretty boy. What I'm saying is that leading is not his expertise.

I studied Architecture it would be same as if someone tossed me hammer and said go and build. I do know how to do it don't get me wrong even in high school they would take us on fields to work but still even though I do know about it is still not my expertise,I'm not builder that is theirs job. This is what I'm trying to say that Cullen is man of action one who goes with you in battle and fights not one that plans tactics and strategies.

[Vita Brevis]

Oh? Do tell. I know Celene wants him, but I leave him to Leliana, should she have him back?

It's pretty complicated story to tell in short, really. We only get a full picture of him in TME and he's really some f-ed up person. Like, really. Many people like him because he "fights good" and stuff (you know how it goes, bested Gaspard blah blah blah) and many detest him because he's self-hating elf-blooded racist who likes to slaughter elves and "peasants". Not to mention he f*cked up his duty and let that one demon loose.

I really doubt that's the kind of person the Inq needs as one of it's leaders.

[Augustei]

Ser Michael is a pathetic fool who thinks himself easily capable of outsmarting high tiered demon lords and spits on and looks down upon his mothers race (Elves) as a knee jerk reaction to people finding out or even just potentially suggesting the truth of himself being a half-elf.

He's a Chevalier with a tinted glasses view of how great and fairy-tale esque he and his Order is.... He also thinks of himself as a hero, what a ****job

At least thats the impression I got.

[Solbranthius]

I do wish Michel had been given a larger role. I'd love to have seen him made into a proper companion - I'd certainly take him over Sera, Blackwall or Iron Bull. 

[Hair Serious Business]

It's pretty complicated story to tell in short, really. We only get a full picture of him in the TME and he's really some f-ed up person. Like, really. Many people like him because he "fights good" and stuff (you know how it goes, bested Gaspard blah blah blah) and many detest him because he's self-hating elf-blooded racist who likes to slaughter elves and "peasants". Not to mention he f*cked up his duty and let the demon loose.

I really doubt that's the kind of person the Inq needs as one of it's leaders.

In Orlais everyone kills elves for no reason let's not mention what Celene did to cover up her affair with Briala lol

Come to think of it I think we should have had Stroud as advisor xD Because every enemy shell flee instantly once they see the damn fine mustache that is Stroud leading Inquisiton's forces.

[Hair Serious Business]

I do wish Michel had been given a larger role. I'd love to have seen him made into a proper companion - I'd certainly take him over Sera, Blackwall or Iron Bull. 

I would like to keep Sera and IB they have funny banters...but yeah take Bore Wall for sure  !

[Former_Fiend]

Huh. This is odd. 

 

As much as I like Cullen as a character I hadn't ever considered him a viable option for military commander. The game itself changed my mind a bit, but I still felt like there may have been better options.

 

But the suggestion that it may have been Michel?

 

I'm sorry, Cullen. I take it all back. You're the only general in Thedas suited for the job. The Inquisition is lucky to have you.

[ThreeF]

I do get joke dear. I know that Cullen is not just incompetent pretty boy. What I'm saying is that leading is not his expertise.

I studied Architecture it would be same as if someone tossed me hammer and said go and build. I do know how to do it don't get me wrong even in high school they would take us on fields to work but still even though I do know about it is still not my expertise,I'm not builder that is theirs job. This is what I'm trying to say that Cullen is man of action one who goes with you in battle and fights not one that plans tactics and strategies.

Yes dear.  Thing is,  nobody in the Inquisition is perfect for their job, Josephine is too honest, Leliana is too conflicted, they both compensate this by having experience. And their main drive is that they believe in what they do.

 

Cullen might not have the experience, but he has a good head on  his shoulders, clearly knows how to maneuver, is really good at understanding and training his soldiers,  is loyal to a fault, is aware of his shortcomings and busts his butt to compensate for them. He also puts the cause and his people above himself. Just because someone is man of action, it doesn't make them incompetent tactician and strategist, you don't even know if he is good or not, just assume he isn't because of a joke. Cassandra is no moron to jeopardize her precious Inquisition by offering the job to someone incompetent, she clearly saw something in the man.

 

I get it you might very well adore Micheal and wish he had a bigger role in the game and maybe he should, but we really know very little about Cullen's abilities as a strategist and from the very little we know there are valid reasons for him  to  have the position he has.

[AresKeith]

I get it you might very well adore Micheal and wish he had a bigger role in the game and maybe he should, but we really know very little about Cullen's abilities as a strategist and from the very little we know there are valid reasons for him  to  have the position he has.

 

Him and the entire OCW should've been bigger tbh lol

[Hair Serious Business]

Yes dear.  Thing is,  nobody in the Inquisition is perfect for their job, Josephine is too honest, Leliana is too conflicted, they both compensate this by having experience. And their main drive is that they believe in what they do.

 

Cullen might not have the experience, but he has a good head on  his shoulder, clearly knows how to maneuver, is really good at understanding and training his soldiers,  is loyal to a fault, is aware of his shortcomings and busts his butt to compensate for them. He also puts the cause and his people above himself. Just because someone is man of action, it doesn't make them incompetent tactician and strategist, you don't even know if he is good or not, just assume is because of a joke. Cassandra is no moron to jeopardize her precious Inquisition by offering the job to someone incompetent, she clearly saw something in the man.

 

I get it you might very well adore Micheal and wish he had a bigger role in the game and maybe he should, but we really know very little about Cullen's abilities as a strategist and from the very little we know there are valid reasons for him  to  have the position he has.

Leliana just got that position for being writer's pet and being new Liara that has been established. 

As for Cullen admit that is shame that he isn't simple companion instead...so much missed awesome banters...shame.

[AresKeith]

Leliana just got that position for being writer's pet and being new Liara that has been established. 

As for Cullen admit that is shame that he isn't simple companion instead...so much missed awesome banters...shame.

 

lolno

[Serza]

Cullen is a former Knight-Commander, who commanded the Templar Order in Kirkwall after the death of Knight-Commander Meredith.

 

Ser Michel de Chevin is a Chevalier, who never actually commanded an army, because he was a personal bodyguard to Empress Celene.

 

 

Ser Michel has no experience leading troops. Cullen does.

I'm sorry, Michel would be a better companion, while Cullen is the better Commander.

[Icy Magebane]

De Chevin didn't impress me in this game, so I have no idea what would qualify him to be leader of anything... all he did was stand outside a village waiting for the Inquisitor to fight a demon for him.  Now, perhaps he was a big deal in the book he first appeared in, but this information isn't available in the game, so he doesn't deserve to be considered a major player IMO.

[Hair Serious Business]

lolno

Imagine Cole reading his mind and saying stuff of how he desired HoF xD Imagine IB trying to drag him to girls, imagine Dorrian teasing him, Sera also teasing and annoying him...just imagine all wonderful banter we could have had...instead he is just in war room and only banters we get are with Leliana and Josie...that are mostly boring with few funny ones....that is why I say banters opportunity was largely missed 

 

De Chevin didn't impress me in this game, so I have no idea what would qualify him to be leader of anything... all he did was stand outside a village waiting for the Inquisitor to fight a demon for him.  Now, perhaps he was a big deal in the book he first appeared in, but this information isn't available in the game, so he doesn't deserve to be considered a major player IMO.

 

That is because BW made characters such as Ser Michel,Empress Celen,Briala and Gaspard just little not much important NPC's while other characters that *coughs* thanks to being writer's pets get to be something as Divine!